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| Chancellor Laurentus | Nov 16 2014, 06:30 PM Post #1 |
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Okay, so there's a new RP. My first question is... how the fuck does this actually work? |
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| Alexander | Dec 19 2014, 06:59 PM Post #471 |
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The RP itself is not the place for a vehicle spec Aragonn. This is meta as fuck, I'd probably say tone it down a bit. It seems almost like your characters are responding to Laurentus directly with something like this.
Couple of things. Firstly, loads of new technology suddenly being introduced in an RP without a period of design and production would usually be considered a bit off. Secondly, is this a suggestion that "new missiles and bombs" are what's needed to bridge the gap between Miricano's military and the Reichswehr, or are you saying something else? I was also just wondering why you write your posts in script form, not that it's technically "wrong" or anything, I just personally find it makes it somewhat harder to read and takes some of the heart out of the story when an interaction is almost entirely a dialogue block. Please don't take that personally For the others who are appearing in Frostmark, I'll let it slide this time for the sake of brevity but for future reference the last thing Frostmark would ever do is let any foreigner at all into the nation unchallenged, no matter who you are. This isn't a "war" thing, it's a cultural thing, and those from the old regional RP will recall Frostmarkers as a whole tend to be extremely isolationist and inward-looking, with a large part of their identity being the idea of their homogeneity. Beyond trying to keep peace and stave off war beyond a last resort, interest in outsiders and doubt in the system beyond that is almost nonexistent. I mean hell, even in real life you can't just stroll into a neighbouring country (let alone walk straight into a meeting with the Chancellor of the entire empire) without presenting documents and being validated, and very few places in the real world are as xenophobic as Frostmark. I've held back on immediately making an RP post tonight as I'm actually not even entirely sure it should be left in the RP that these foreign dignitaries expect to meet with Falkenwalde in person when it technically breaks protocol and a separate prime minister/president level politician exists with seniority over the Reichstag. I mean hell, barring an "emergency powers" situation (and though the law might pretend it isn't the case), the Reichskanzler is functionally more powerful than the Kaiser himself. I don't mean to offend anyone with "refusal" to allow meetings with Falkenwalde, but even in the far less exaggerated real world if Obama's daughter decided to go to, say, the UK and meet with David Cameron, she wouldn't exactly be able to. Shit seems to be moving fast as hell by RP standards in terms of ideas being thrown around in OOC and actual posts, so it isn't as if we need to blast through the nuances of the story. |
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| Chancellor Laurentus | Dec 19 2014, 07:16 PM Post #472 |
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Sarilla is 18, and a bit of a spoiled bitch. But still, I guess there is no way she would even have been allowed into the building, so I take your point. So how are you going to handle it? Will she be thrown out and then go through all the proper channels? Also, and I hope I don't sound too much like a whiney bitch, but I know next to nothing of how your government works, as I didn't partake in the previous RP. Perhaps a factbook to clear it up? |
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| Alexander | Dec 19 2014, 07:35 PM Post #473 |
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I'm not really sure how she would have even made it that far without being dead, I mean you can't say Frostmark is lacking for security. Considering I have one, I'm assuming you mean one for this RP specifically. I don't know many factbook writers who'd be detailed enough to include such things as laws regarding "channels to meet the leader", but okay These are the kind of nuances and cultural shizz that can be explored in the RP if people looked at it more as telling an interesting story than just playing a game, and blasting through the whole thing, such as characters immediately travelling and appearing where they were heading within the same post. |
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| Lord Aragonn | Dec 19 2014, 07:42 PM Post #474 |
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I'll see about getting Gunnar into Frostmark through the proper channels. If I'm rejected, oh well. |
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| Chancellor Laurentus | Dec 19 2014, 08:19 PM Post #475 |
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See, this was originally going to be an extremely silly, short RP, and when it evolved into something else, I don't think people immediately became aware of how much it had changed, and somehow we kept the rushed and silly feeling, without keeping the fun or transitioning into a proper RP. I'm not exactly even sure how this happened. For myself, since this is pretty much my first RP of this size and length ever, I keep forgetting that this is actually a game, and not a medium for me to write the best story possible, so I rush through it and sometimes leave little room for others to expand and get involved. I'm only now starting to get things sort of, kind of right. EDIT: Frosty, Sarilla will make you rue the day that you decide to lift a weapon and aim at to her if your country's security tries to keep her out or shoot at her. Believe that. ![]() I've also modified my character factbook a bit to contain our history and government structure as well, along with the cultural makeup of the empire. It's nowhere near finished, but it's a start. Edited by Laurentus, Dec 19 2014, 08:25 PM.
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| Alexander | Dec 19 2014, 09:14 PM Post #476 |
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Hard to make anyone rue the day when you're dead isn't it I don't know, to be honest the more humorous RP would seem to have more potential for longevity. The issue here, if my little hiatus from the RP is anything to go by, people seem to think "fun humorous RP" means to completely abandon RP etiquette and make shit up on the spot. That isn't funny at all, and has been more taken advantage of than anything so far. The way this should be is as I proposed waaaay back for it to be a seemingly "serious" setting with the humour stemming from the ludicrous elements the "serious" characters seem to be taking... seriously. It's kind of like what made early Breaking Bad funny, the incidental and almost out of place humour. Self-referential humour is also something I can appreciate, such as Falkenwalde thinking that the current scene was almost like it was set for plot convenience. The line should be drawn when it comes to characters directly responding to something stemming from an OOC quarrel, because it stops being funny and becomes bitter. It's possible for things to be funny without it being fart joke humour, with proper RP etiquette kept, and still being semi-realistic (in the sense that I don't read Sarilla suddenly popping up in the Chancellory as funny and more as a wtf moment). You know, tasteful. What looks to have happened is that people seem to be identifying with their characters and entire nation as a whole far too much, to the point where it's almost like some kind of extension of themselves. Subsequently actions against others are being seen as slights and are being met with suspect manoeuvres that go against RP etiquette in an attempt to get one over on each other. This just seems to be leading to increasingly pissed off players devolving into a wankfest of "oh, well MY character is this, be warned if you do [X], you'll regret [X]". People need to accept that this should be told like a story, that characters can and should die if it makes for good writing, and most of all the fact that this began as a fun project. Leave the virtual national pride feelings for when the regional RP is resurrected. Edited by Alexander, Dec 19 2014, 09:15 PM.
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| Chancellor Laurentus | Dec 19 2014, 09:40 PM Post #477 |
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Well, considering I don't give 2 fucks about Laurentus, Maximus or Sarilla, it's not so much that I like these characters too much to let them die, it's more that I wasn't really aware of how RPs in general even work when we started this, and thus used only Maximus as an POV character. So if he were to die in the beginning, I would simply have been faced with serious problems because I would have no one to actually succeed him as my POV character. This is actually something I'm trying to fix now. And I never really would have imagined people getting so pissed when I criticised their characters, or did a literary analysis comparing characters either. I actually suspected at one point that people were confusing me with my characters, which made things a bit personal when my characters actually did something in the RP that they didn't like with their characters. All in all, this has proven to be quite a bit of a learning experience all around. I think I can stand to learn a bit more about proper RP etiquette as well. EDIT: Luckily I know there is small chance of you taking things like these personally, Frosty, so I'll just say it. It seems you also didn't immediately take this seriously as an RP with proper etiquette either, going by how Falkenwalde also magically knew about the penguins, and that type of thing.
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| Alexander | Dec 20 2014, 07:18 AM Post #478 |
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He doesn't know, he's paranoid. I wanted to make him look surprisingly fearful of "penguins" for a rational dude, if you remember at the start this was supposed to be propelled forward through Ramos and his jealousy rubbing up against Falkenwalde's irrational fear of penguins. For a modern day comparison I'd think of it as a leader finding out the world is on the brink of war and believing that it will probably go nuclear. He doesn't know they had already been deployed and doesn't even know they'd be used against the Kaiserreich, he just doesn't want them used and pushes forward with the project for some kind of counter, like we have (concepts?) of missile defense systems to detect and shoot down nukes "just in case". This was a long time ago now anyway and the tone has changed so much that the original ideas seem to have been forgotten. |
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| Chancellor Laurentus | Dec 20 2014, 09:51 AM Post #479 |
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I think I never really interpreted it in that way to begin with, but that makes sense. |
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| Alexander | Dec 20 2014, 12:25 PM Post #480 |
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I take it you don't want to change the Sarilla scene. |
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