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Topic Started: Jan 18 2014, 03:27 PM (2,226 Views)
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Just wondering if anyone watches? I am a huge fan since day 1 and well I love Jensen Ackles. I love Jared Padelecki too. BUT I am a die-hard JA fan from way back (DAYS of Our Lives days.) If that makes any sense! :laugh:

Too have two hot piece of man candy for so many years on 1 show is a gift from the TV Gods up above.

I would love to discuss with anyone here. I think they will be getting renewed for a 10th season! WOOT WOOT! There should be news coming out soon from the "CW Up Fronts" on this.
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"Supernatural" 9x20 "Bloodlines"

1st half hour:
Viewers: 2.24 million (#5), A18-49: 1.0/ 3 (#4t)

2nd half hour:
Viewers: 2.03 million (#5), A18-49: 0.9/ 3 (#4t)



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"Supernatural" 9x20 "Bloodlines"

My thoughts on the episode first.

The episode begins in Chicago where young and handsome cop Ennis is about to propose to his girlfriend, Tamara. But don't get attached, she is about to die. :oops:

Elsewhere in a monster night club, shapeshifter Sal Lassiter has a run-in with werewolf Julian Duval. (They do not get along - warring factions, you know how that story goes...)

Their monster feud is interrupted by a hooded figure with Freddy Krueger claws who does some serious damage. He claws Sal, with a gaping wound in his stomach, stumble outside where Ennis is in the middle of asking Tamara to marry him. The Claw Monster joins them, kills Tamara and Sal, then leaves.

Much like Peter Parker losing Uncle Ben, we now have our hero's tragic origin story.


I felt like it was very dis-jointed, the overall plot. We knew this was going to be a spin-off but there was very little (to almost no Dean and Sam). (Listen I get it is a spin-off and the fact that Dean and Sam would be in that - but this is Supernatural and there show. They should be in the episode.) It is still Supernatural and they are working the case. The main characters were not enjoyable. I liked Nathaniel Buzolic mainly because I know him from "TVD". He played David Lassiter (a shape-shifter) and he is in love with Violet (a Werewolf) and they can't be together. Whatever. :rolleyes: There are warring mafia monster families? (Monster ones? The werewolves, The djinns, The shape-shifters and vampires.) We are getting all the lure from Supernatural on the monsters, so far. But then the confusion sets in again.


The umbrella of the story-line for Bloodlines continues as we meet the other main characters. The simple set-up is that Chicago is secretly run by five monster families: shapeshifters, werewolves, djinns, ghouls and vampires. We get introduced to Margo Lassiter, Sal's sister, is running the shifters now that their dad is dying. She's working with Freddie Costa, a human detective who was also a friend of Ennis' father. Her other brother, David, is a college student who uses his shifting skills to steal test answers. David, played by The Vampire Diaries' Nathaniel Buzolic, is instantly charming and the most likeable character in this potential spin-off. He doesn't want anything to do with his family's business, but Sal's death brings him back into the fold.

Then across town, Julian, the head of the werewolves, is preparing for a shifter attack since he knows Margo will suspect he killed Sal. Julian's sister is Violet, who used to date David but is now set up in an arranged marriage to help her family. (This got very confusing and hard to keep up with.)

FINALLY!!!!!
Ennis meets Sam and Dean in the interrogation room, but doesn't take their advice to stay away from all of this. Ennis breaks into the monster club and is almost killed by a vampire, but the Winchesters save him! (Que Surprise.) They tell Ennis all about monsters and Hunters. I want to remind anyone who hasn't watched this yet - Sam and Dean don't have much of a role in this episode. I don't particular agree with that (or like it) but since this is going to spin-off of Supernatural, we are going to have to see how this goes. I still didn't enjoy the episode at all, even with the lack of Dean and Sam.

So, Ennis learns more when he meets David, posing as Freddie, who is looking for more information on his brother's murder. (Sal) They have a nice moment and it's instantly clear that these two will become allies and possibly friends, despite the fact that their first meeting features Ennis pointing a gun at him.

David visits Violet to try and convince her to arrange a sit-down between their siblings to prevent the inevitable "monster mafia war". They chat about their romantic past (they planned on leaving town together, but she never showed up), but get interrupted by the Freddie Kreuger Claw Monster. He takes Violet hostage, but doesn't kill David because Ennis, (trying to shoot Freddie Kreuger Claw Monster) Thankfully!!!! Sam and Dean all show up (they were tracking down various leads, all of which led them to the Duval estate).This was such a clusterfuck of an episode.


In a perfect illustration of working with the enemy, Sam and Dean team up with Ennis and David to go after the "Freddie Kreuger Claw Monster". If Bloodlines becomes a show, having Ennis and David working together is the best possible path to go down. How much do you want to bet this is probably the path they will go? If the show goes for a full season.

Once they find the building where the "Freddie Kreuger Claw Monster" took Violet, David gets kidnapped as well and learns that the Claw Monster is actually just a human with a cool "Freddy Krueger" glove made out of silver. He's angry at the monster families because his 8-year-old son was mauled and killed by Sal and Julian. Yes, it seems the shifter and werewolf who hated each other were, for some unknown reason, working together.
Who would have thought.

The "Freddie Kreuger Claw Monster" threatens to kill David, but this causes Violet to wolf out because she loves him. She attacks him, but is pulled off before he dies. Sam, Dean and Ennis show up to see the aftermath. Ennis sees the human Claw Monster who killed his ever-so-brief fiance and shoots him dead. Bloodlines is going to be a really dark show if the "hero" already has one human murder under his belt. NOT.

The epilogue for this episode sets up even more mysteries for the potential spin-off. David tells Violet that Sal's (David's brother) last words were "David, I'm sorry. I didn't have a choice." He doesn't know what it means, but Violet does. The night she was supposed to run away with David, Sal met with her first and told her to run away because it's important to keep the different monster bloodlines pure. (Okay, whatever. This makes no sense.) But she never tells this story to David. (Nathaniel Buzolic) It gets very confusing explaining this to you, imagine trying to keep up with this. (While watching the episode). You see what I mean? Why would the brother go and meet up with her? Secondly, if David and Violet were going to be together, who is really going to stop them, am I right?



Violet doesn't tell this story to David, but instead kisses him passionately and then walks away. She's sending some seriously confusing mixed signals. :ohmy:

At the Lassiter mansion, David sits next to his dying dad who warns him that Margo (his sister) wants a war, so David needs to stop it. Just like that, David is back in the family business. It was like a switch turned off.

Finally, as Sam and Dean leave to deal with more important matters (Metatron and Abaddon, etc.), Ennis steps up to become a Hunter and take down the five monster families. In one last twist, the episode ends with Ennis getting a mysterious phone call urging him not to become a Hunter. And the call is from his allegedly dead dad. :wtf: :wtf: I was like what did I just watch. Who wrote this and I am not going to watch the spin-off. Without the addition of Nathaniel Buzolic who was probably the best part of the whole episode, I would have to say I didn't like this at all. FAIL.

ETA: I had to do an edit because I messed up my thoughts on the episode. I really didn't enjoy it, even though there was lots of man candy. It was just all of the place, the plot was also, and the characters weren't well defined as far as a long term story-arc to me. (Not that I am comparing them to Dean and Sam, but in any type of spin-off/series, you want to see a characters motivation and to me, I really see lots of scattered personalities so far and no definition. I know it was only one episode but I don't think I will be a long-term fan, unless someone right's the ship. JMO, I think they should have got a better writer/writers for the series and changed the plot all together.
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Here are comments from other Supernatural fans who watched:

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I tuned out I didn't feel connected with these characters at all it was bland and boring very weak acting please cw what are you thinking I for one will not watch it when it premiere no thank you I will stick with the Winchesters.


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I agree. I stuck with it till halfway thru but even before then my attention was wondering.


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As a show in its own right Bloodlines might find an an audience. Shoe-horning it in as a Supernatural episode was a real stretch. There was so much of it that felt forced and counter-intuitive to the universe we accept as being 'Supernatural'.

I think it's a show that may find its audience among those who like The Vampire Diaries and The Tomorrow People type shows. I don't think it's my cup of tea though I will give it a fair go before finally deciding.

I do have to say that as a Supernatural episode I found it disappointing. There were elements that felt just wrong. Like Sam & Dean so readily accepting monsters as good guys and not being more shocked that there was a whole subculture of them running Chicago, and they didn't even bat an eye when Ennis killed the 'bad guy', who in the normal world of Supernatural would have almost been a hunter.


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I only lasted about half way through and even before that my attention wandered. The bar scene near the beginning seemed overdone or overly fake, monsters-wise LOL.. I just couldn't get into much at all and I definitely won't bother with the spin off.


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I watched about half the episode before giving up. I'll still give the show a chance because I think it has potential. Also, pilots aren't always a great indicator of what a show will really be like. But my initial reaction is lukewarm. Some of the new characters annoyed me out of the gate and that's rarely a good start.


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Am I the only one confused about the monsters in this? The werewolf changes at will, the shapeshifter changes effortlessly without skin shedding and a djinn that wasn't scary at all (more like a normal dude with tats it seemed). These monsters didn't seem like SPN monsters to me. That alone was off putting.


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just wasen't feeling it, couple of people on fb saying that
supernatural true fans would be sticking by this one and not looking to
pick it apart like they are...I'm sorry but it was obvisous what was
wrong with it, and I just don't find it enticing at
all................The boys where nice to see though...........
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I tuned out I didn't feel connected with these characters at all it was bland and boring very weak acting please cw what are you thinking I for one will not watch it when it premiere no thank you I will stick with the Winchesters.


Honestly, ICAM with all of these comments. The episode stunk, it was weak and all over the place.

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I would have to totally agree with that assessment. It was bland and uninteresting. Not something I would tune in for even out of loyalty to SPN. My TV time is too limited.
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Sorry CW, totally not feeling the Bloodlines thing.

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When Supernatural first aired back in 2005 it brought a unique sense of style and fun to the TV horror genre, filling the enormous void left by Buffy The Vampire Slayer which had ended its run two years earlier. Immediately the Winchester siblings with their daddy issues, demonically dispatched mother, and truck stop, monster-hunting subculture radiated real personality. It was Americana and Route 66, muscle cars and classic rock, but with hook-handed killers, demons, and eventually even angels and the war for Heaven.

Bloodlines on the other hand feels like it is shaping up to be the tired, old CW formula of hot, sexy monsters fucking and fighting other hot, sexy monsters. Do they really need Bloodlines when they already have The Vampire Diaries and The Originals?

Supernatural has a genuine charisma that transcends the usual CW fare. I detect none of the brand legacy in the DNA of this new spin-off. You never know how these things are going to turn out but right now the fact that Supernatural is in the title means nothing. It shares none of the personality which made its progenitor great.

SOURCE/MANY THANKS: http://observationdeck.io9.com/sorry-cw-totally-not-feeling-the-bloodlines-thing-1569688250
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Sorry CW, totally not feeling the Bloodlines thing.

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When Supernatural first aired back in 2005 it brought a unique sense of style and fun to the TV horror genre, filling the enormous void left by Buffy The Vampire Slayer which had ended its run two years earlier. Immediately the Winchester siblings with their daddy issues, demonically dispatched mother, and truck stop, monster-hunting subculture radiated real personality. It was Americana and Route 66, muscle cars and classic rock, but with hook-handed killers, demons, and eventually even angels and the war for Heaven.

Bloodlines on the other hand feels like it is shaping up to be the tired, old CW formula of hot, sexy monsters fucking and fighting other hot, sexy monsters. Do they really need Bloodlines when they already have The Vampire Diaries and The Originals?

Supernatural has a genuine charisma that transcends the usual CW fare. I detect none of the brand legacy in the DNA of this new spin-off. You never know how these things are going to turn out but right now the fact that Supernatural is in the title means nothing. It shares none of the personality which made its progenitor great.

SOURCE/MANY THANKS: http://observationdeck.io9.com/sorry-cw-totally-not-feeling-the-bloodlines-thing-1569688250
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I tuned out I didn't feel connected with these characters at all it was bland and boring very weak acting please cw what are you thinking I for one will not watch it when it premiere no thank you I will stick with the Winchesters.


Honestly, ICAM with all of these comments. The episode stunk, it was weak and all over the place.

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I would have to totally agree with that assessment. It was bland and uninteresting. Not something I would tune in for even out of loyalty to SPN. My TV time is too limited.
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I'm not even going to comment on that true fan crap.

I agree with Kim that it probably wasn't a good idea to make this a part of SPN. They should have just waited to give it a proper pilot. When it premiers for real, I'll give it another shot, but if it isn't any better than this episode, I won't stick around long.


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Nobody will, Charlie. The series will simply die and be canceled. If it remains interesting I will watch it, especially if it becomes a summer show. But, we'll see.


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It was nothing like Originals or Vampire Diaries, in my opinion. Those shows have storylines that make sense ;-)


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I liked the new hunter, especially since his dad left him a stash of
silver bullets. I'd like to know more about him and his dad, but the
monsters bored me. Just didn't care about the "star crossed lovers" or
who was trying to start a war. I'll probably give it a try when it
starts, in case they do some fine tuning and make it more interesting.


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I fell asleep like halfway through; it just wasn't keeping my attention. I think I'll still watch a few episodes before I decide though.


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As a show in its own right Bloodlines might find an an audience. Shoe-horning it in as a Supernatural episode was a real stretch. There was so much of it that felt forced and counter-intuitive to the universe we accept as being 'Supernatural'.

I think it's a show that may find its audience among those who like The Vampire Diaries and The Tomorrow People type shows. I don't think it's my cup of tea though I will give it a fair go before finally deciding.

I do have to say that as a Supernatural episode I found it disappointing. There were elements that felt just wrong. Like Sam & Dean so readily accepting monsters as good guys and not being more shocke d that there was a whole subculture of them running Chicago, and they didn't even bat an eye when Ennis killed the 'bad guy', who in the normal world of Supernatural would have almost been a hunter.


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SEASON ENDING FINALE SPOILERS. PLEASE DON'T READ IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED.

https://twitter.com/SpoilerTV_SPN/statuses/461976269513445376

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Supernatural - Episode 9.23 - Do You Believe in Miracles (Season Finale) - Press Release http://spoiltv.me/1fCxIX6 #spn
5:11 PM - 1 May 2014

SUPERNATURAL
“Do You Believe in Miracles” – (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET) (Content Rating TBD) (HDTV)

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I tuned out I didn't feel connected with these characters at all it was bland and boring very weak acting please cw what are you thinking I for one will not watch it when it premiere no thank you I will stick with the Winchesters.


Honestly, ICAM with all of these comments. The episode stunk, it was weak and all over the place.

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I would have to totally agree with that assessment. It was bland and uninteresting. Not something I would tune in for even out of loyalty to SPN. My TV time is too limited.
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I'm not even going to comment on that true fan crap.

I agree with Kim that it probably wasn't a good idea to make this a part of SPN. They should have just waited to give it a proper pilot. When it premiers for real, I'll give it another shot, but if it isn't any better than this episode, I won't stick around long.


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Nobody will, Charlie. The series will simply die and be canceled. If it remains interesting I will watch it, especially if it becomes a summer show. But, we'll see.


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It was nothing like Originals or Vampire Diaries, in my opinion. Those shows have storylines that make sense ;-)


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I liked the new hunter, especially since his dad left him a stash of
silver bullets. I'd like to know more about him and his dad, but the
monsters bored me. Just didn't care about the "star crossed lovers" or
who was trying to start a war. I'll probably give it a try when it
starts, in case they do some fine tuning and make it more interesting.


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I fell asleep like halfway through; it just wasn't keeping my attention. I think I'll still watch a few episodes before I decide though.


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As a show in its own right Bloodlines might find an an audience. Shoe-horning it in as a Supernatural episode was a real stretch. There was so much of it that felt forced and counter-intuitive to the universe we accept as being 'Supernatural'.

I think it's a show that may find its audience among those who like The Vampire Diaries and The Tomorrow People type shows. I don't think it's my cup of tea though I will give it a fair go before finally deciding.

I do have to say that as a Supernatural episode I found it disappointing. There were elements that felt just wrong. Like Sam & Dean so readily accepting monsters as good guys and not being more shocke d that there was a whole subculture of them running Chicago, and they didn't even bat an eye when Ennis killed the 'bad guy', who in the normal world of Supernatural would have almost been a hunter.


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I didn't care for it either. I'm hoping they develop the relationship between Innis and David more on the show. If they had killed off Violet and made the two guys have more in common and became a team, it would have better. Re: the werewolves, I wonder if they are purebreds and not bitten. I wonder if the reason they didn't have a vampire family is because of The Vampire Diaries/The Originals. Including a vampire family on this show would have made there be too many vampires on the CW. But still, they could have picked another type of monster besides djinn and sirens to finish out the five families. Supernatural has had tons of monsters to choose from.


Yes, yes and yes! :wtf: is wrong with the writers and Eric Kripke has left the building? Has he forgotten about his show? He does still own it and is (Executive consultant). :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Supernatural: Bloodlines was cancelled!

SOURCE: http://www.winchesterbros.com/site/index.php/supernatural-tribes/10361-supernatural-bloodlines-is-not-picked-up-by-the-cw

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In addition, the network has decided to axe a project before it even gets out of the gate: the Supernatural spin-off, originally titled “Tribes” and then called “Bloodlines”, is also dead. There didn’t seem to be a good reaction to the spin-off, which — if you’re a fan of the original Supernatural — didn’t have much in common with the mother series, despite being introduced during episode 9.20 as a back-door pilot.


More info: http://www.screenfad.com/the-cw/cw-announces-renewals-cancellations-and-new-series-pick-ups-19832#sthash.WtS2Za0M.dpuf>>

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https://twitter.com/natebuzz/statuses/464512420635885568

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Despite the disappointing news I'm still on top of the world ; ) thank you to the followers who have stood in my corner, beautiful! Blessed.
5:09 PM - 8 May 2014
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https://twitter.com/natebuzz/statuses/464512420635885568

Nathaniel Buzolic ✔ @natebuzz
Despite the disappointing news I'm still on top of the world ; ) thank you to the followers who have stood in my corner, beautiful! Blessed.
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Classy guy. :cool3:
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"Supernatural" Episode 9x21 "King of the Damned"

Here are some comments from the SPN group I belong too.

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So...it was a very interesting episode. What the heck was with Crowley's son? It didn't really seem to fit in. I know Abaddon was trying to use him to bribe Crowley, in case he had some humanity left in him from his human blood injections, but still...really weird. I was not expecting that at all.



I love Sam and Dean's interrogation of the angel...it was hilarious. It made me laugh. It seems like that info will be very important to winning the fight against Metatron.



I feel like everything is not on the up and up with Castiel's meeting with Gadreel...maybe I'm wrong. But does anyone else think that Gadreel is gonna try to get Cas to trust him and then gather info for Metatron?



I feel like Abbadon was killed a bit easily...I know the blade instills a power, but I wish there was more fighting involved. Now that Abaddon's gone {if she is} I wonder when Crowley will be next. I rather like him though, I'll be upset if he gets ganked. Like I was upset when Meg was killed. I thought her character was awesome.



Next week's episode looks great: I can't wait to watch it.



Good assessment. I felt also that Abbadon was killed to easily. BUT, the power Dean now possesses with the "MOC" and the blade, well is a bad mofo. I think it can overpower just about anything, ever her.

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"Supernatural" 9x21 "King of the Damned"

Numbers are down a little after last week's crap-fest. From TV Media Insights.

1st half hour:
Viewers: 1.82 million (#5), A18-49: 0.8/ 3 (#5)

2nd half hour:
Viewers: 1.73 million (#5), A18-49: 0.8/ 2 (#4)

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What a joker that Mischa Collins is. :rofl: :lolabove:


Misha Collins‏@mishacollins9 mins
I have an announcement about Castiel for season 10. I know a lot of u are going to be disappointed, but me & my family have made a decision.



Misha Collins‏@mishacollins5 mins

Sorry for any confusion. This is the announcement: RT @LauInLA: "The CW confirms that @mishacollins will return as a regular for Season 10"



Jim Michaels‏@TheJimMichaels4 mins

As I said at #vegascon "I can't imagine season 10 without @mishacollins" #Supernatural #SPNFamily #jimions

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