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Canhadasti History Questionnaire (Semi-stolen from New Edom)
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My History, for reference.

This is just a questionnaire for anyone interested, so that I can integrate my history with the region as a whole.

Please leave any answers that are "No" as blank. Thank you.

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[big][u][b]Religion[/b][/u][/big]
I don't have much recent stuff written about Canhadasti religion, but I brought over an [URL=http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/wiki/Religion_in_Canhadast]SMS article[/URL] I wrote over the summer when I was creating the concept for Canhadast. One important aspect that I didn't originally consider, but became important later is a mixture of Theravada Buddhism (that is, the specific school of Buddhism common to Thailand and Laos) and polytheistic Canhadasti traditionalism. Additionally, certain "Mysteries" or "Cults" (in the Roman sense, not the Waco Massacre sense) are really more like Fraternities, such as the Masons.

[b]1: Does your nation have any Canhadasti derived religions, particularly the Cult of Adonis, Canhadasti Polytheism, or Canhadasti-Buddhism? (Note, offshoot sects are fine with me).[/b]

[b]2: Has your nation ever attempted to send missionaries to Canhadast? If so, to what extent?[/b]

[big][u][b]Commerce in Ancient Times (pre-1200CE)[/b][/u][/big]
The Kanaanim had an expansive trade network, often choosing to buy wares from other countries rather than producing them outright, in order to turn a better profit. Because of this, very early on various peoples in what is now Canhadast came into contact with people all over the globe. The height of this was during the Tsurian period, when the city state of Tsur controlled most of present day Canhadast. Because of this, the exonym for most Canhadasti people is "Tsuri", "Tsurian" or some variant of that. Canhadasti merchants would often set up small trading colonies to function as ports, and to keep local wives and families. Most of them would not have had sustainable populations, or would have married into the local populace.

[b]1: Did Canhadasti merchants ever visit your shores? If so, what did your people want to buy?[/b]

[b]2: If so, did they set up any historical colonies? What happened to them?[/b]

[b]3: Where there any lasting impacts?[/b]

[big][u][b]War in Ancient Times[/b][/u][/big]
The Kanaanim were not a warlike people, but sometimes expanded their influence with the sword of their mercenary armies, or with their mighty fleets.

[b]1: Did any part of your country ever go to war with a Kanaani state? If so, how did that turn out?[/b]

[b]2: Did any Kanaani state carve out a colonial province in your nation?[/b]

[b]3: Did any nation of your attempt to conquer a part of modern day Canhadast?[/b]

[b]4: Is it possible that your nation fits into being one of the conquering states or opposing nations in anything I wrote down in my history thread? Particularly the Siege of Tsur? (I will choose whoever fits the bill best.)[/b]

[big][u][b]Commerce in Modern Times (Post 1200CE)[/b][/u][/big]
Much like in ancient times, Canhadasti traders like to do business in person. Many, as part of a larger group, will travel to foreign countries and set up shop. Often, these temporary immigrants will form a "Little Canhadast" within a foreign coastal city where they might build a community temple or two. Today, 1 in 10 Canhadasti people, citizen and non-citizen, temporarily live overseas. Canhadasti banks are notable for not only protecting the information of their clients, as do many German-speaking banks, but of outright resisting attempts by foreign nations to take any such information as criminal evidence. Because of that, Canhadast is considered a safe nation to conduct overseas banking. One of the few major industries that Canhadast does have, and that it protects, is the aerospace industry, a national pride. Canhadast also produces ships for export, and is a net exporter of energy. clothing, crude oil, and natural gas. Canhadast is, however, a net importer of most other raw materials and industrial goods, but especially steel, iron, automobiles, and consumer electronics.

[b]1: Does Canhadast have any community of immigrants in your nation? If so, in which cities, with approximate populations if you can.[/b]

[b]2: Is Canhadast a major trade partner? Again, much like in ancient times, Canhadasti traders don't really care where their goods come from, so what I produce through industry isn't really relevant. What does your nation need?[/b]

[b]3: If Canhadast is not a major trade partner with your nation, what is the extent of trade between our nations?[/b]

[b]4: What does your nation produce that Canhadast needs? Remember, iron and steel are common exports, so just because you do export them doesn't necessarily mean it's cheap enough for Canhadast to import them.[/b]

[big][u][b]Diplomacy and War in Modern Times[/b][/u][/big]
Canhadast bases it's diplomatic policy on two major things, familiarity and profit. Canhadasti politicians are very conservative, and therefore would prefer supporting the status quo. However, individual alliances are almost never made. Instead, Canhadast defends its interests. If a nation conducts a lot of business with Canhadast, they would generally receive some sort of aid in a defensive conflict. If Canhadast can benefit from an aggressive war monetarily, they will likely also send aid. This is done through accords that are roughly translated as "Agreements of Consideration", in which a foreign country is allowed to petition for help from Canhadast in the case of war. Canhadast generally requests similar consideration as part of the agreement.

[b]1: How long has your nation had diplomatic contact with Canhadast? How familiar is your nation, in it's current form, with Canhadast?[/b]

[b]2: What is your nation's diplomatic opinion of Canhadast, if you have an idea at the moment?

[b]3: Does your nation wish to have an Agreement of Consideration with Canhadast?[/b]

[b]4: Is your nation in any way hostile towards Canhadast?[/b]
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I don't have much recent stuff written about Canhadasti religion, but I brought over an SMS article I wrote over the summer when I was creating the concept for Canhadast. One important aspect that I didn't originally consider, but became important later is a mixture of Theravada Buddhism (that is, the specific school of Buddhism common to Thailand and Laos) and polytheistic Canhadasti traditionalism. Additionally, certain "Mysteries" or "Cults" (in the Roman sense, not the Waco Massacre sense) are really more like Fraternities, such as the Masons.

1: Does your nation have any Canhadasti derived religions, particularly the Cult of Adonis, Canhadasti Polytheism, or Canhadasti-Buddhism? (Note, offshoot sects are fine with me). No.

2: Has your nation ever attempted to send missionaries to Canhadast? If so, to what extent? Probarbly so and probarbly with some intensity, overall the canhadasti religions would however be considered much closer to quendi religious thought then that of the christian nations

Commerce in Ancient Times (pre-1200CE)
The Kanaanim had an expansive trade network, often choosing to buy wares from other countries rather than producing them outright, in order to turn a better profit. Because of this, very early on various peoples in what is now Canhadast came into contact with people all over the globe. The height of this was during the Tsurian period, when the city state of Tsur controlled most of present day Canhadast. Because of this, the exonym for most Canhadasti people is "Tsuri", "Tsurian" or some variant of that. Canhadasti merchants would often set up small trading colonies to function as ports, and to keep local wives and families. Most of them would not have had sustainable populations, or would have married into the local populace.

1: Did Canhadasti merchants ever visit your shores? If so, what did your people want to buy?

For Aman: Yes, they where generally received with a healthy dose of scepticism but as long as they behaved they would have been allowed to operate in very secluded areas of specific cities as long as they did not openly interfere with the amanitte culture, they may even have been expected to perform some proskynesis towards the Phoenix Throne. Profits for those able to stand that, would however have been immense. Purchases would have been refined goods and so would most sales.

For Aldanore Siryambonio: Yes they did and they where well received by most of the six tribes of the country at the time. Purchases would have been pretty much everything while sales would have been primarily agricultural goods (no animal products)

2: If so, did they set up any historical colonies? What happened to them?

For Aman: Colonies and colonies. They would have been assigned, if they came in large numbers, to specific city districts or ghetto's from which they could conduct their trade and live their life basically as in their homelands. Such colonies would however have been abolished when, if ever, trade decreased at which point your merchants would have been politely, but admantly, told to leave.

For Aldanore Siryambonio: Sure they could have established smaller colonies in coastal regions, although such would have never been allowed to expand into the interior of the country. Such colonies could very well prosper if they could reach agreements with the local tribe, or played divide and conquer with several different tribes. Colonies would however have been abolished no later then the years following 1321 (1841) as the seventh tribe arrived. I will however be open to very small enclaves or city states continuing to this day.

3: Where there any lasting impacts?

For Aman: Not of significance no.

For Aldanore Siryambonio: Sure, as I have already outlined impact could last to the present day if you want.

War in Ancient Times
The Kanaanim were not a warlike people, but sometimes expanded their influence with the sword of their mercenary armies, or with their mighty fleets.

1: Did any part of your country ever go to war with a Kanaani state? If so, how did that turn out?

For Aman: if so it would have been very indirectly and very limited. It would either have been an amanitte victory that was never followed up with an attack, or it would have been an amanitte defeat that no one in the capital ever really cared about. Any war would have immediately lead to the abolition of all trade and the arrest and possibly execution of kanaani citizens in Aman.

For Aldanore Siryambonio: That is certainly possible (and over the course of such a long history plausible). Prior to the arrival of the seventh tribe Aldanore Siryambonio would have had a very limited naval power and a war would likely have ended with a naval defeat for my forces and a ground defeat for yours. If the war was between a very strong kanaani state (or coalition of states) with allies from one or more tribes of Aldanore Siryambonio then a more clear victory for your troops could have happened.

2: Did any Kanaani state carve out a colonial province in your nation?

For Aman: No.

For Aldanore Siryambonio: That is certainly possible. Especially if a war such as the one I suggested above took place.

3: Did any nation of your attempt to conquer a part of modern day Canhadast?

For Aman: No.

For Aldanore Siryambonio: Only if you where being really really mean ;)

4: Is it possible that your nation fits into being one of the conquering states or opposing nations in anything I wrote down in my history thread? Particularly the Siege of Tsur? (I will choose whoever fits the bill best.)

For Aman: No.

For Aldanore Siryambonio: Certainly.

Commerce in Modern Times (Post 1200CE)
Much like in ancient times, Canhadasti traders like to do business in person. Many, as part of a larger group, will travel to foreign countries and set up shop. Often, these temporary immigrants will form a "Little Canhadast" within a foreign coastal city where they might build a community temple or two. Today, 1 in 10 Canhadasti people, citizen and non-citizen, temporarily live overseas. Canhadasti banks are notable for not only protecting the information of their clients, as do many German-speaking banks, but of outright resisting attempts by foreign nations to take any such information as criminal evidence. Because of that, Canhadast is considered a safe nation to conduct overseas banking. One of the few major industries that Canhadast does have, and that it protects, is the aerospace industry, a national pride. Canhadast also produces ships for export, and is a net exporter of energy. clothing, crude oil, and natural gas. Canhadast is, however, a net importer of most other raw materials and industrial goods, but especially steel, iron, automobiles, and consumer electronics.

1: Does Canhadast have any community of immigrants in your nation? If so, in which cities, with approximate populations if you can.

For Aman and Araman: Sure, in the colonies and dominions. There numbers would depend on the colony or dominion in question and could, in individual colonies or dominions, be either huge or tiny.

For Aldanore Siryambonio: As previously suggested they could still have enclaves in my state. If not then they could also maintain smaller (max 5 %) populations in coastal cities and tiny (1-2 %) populations in the larger inland cities as well.

2: Is Canhadast a major trade partner? Again, much like in ancient times, Canhadasti traders don't really care where their goods come from, so what I produce through industry isn't really relevant. What does your nation need?

For Aman: If by major you mean representing a very large percentage of amanitte import and export then no. But since Aman has a high import and export in numbers the numbers could be counted in hundreds of billions of USD. Aman needs a variety of manufactured goods and, to a lesser extent due to colonies, raw materials.

For Aldanore Siryambonio: Sure it could be big. The dominion imports luxury products, manufactured goods, raw materials etc.

3: If Canhadast is not a major trade partner with your nation, what is the extent of trade between our nations?

4: What does your nation produce that Canhadast needs? Remember, iron and steel are common exports, so just because you do export them doesn't necessarily mean it's cheap enough for Canhadast to import them. In both Aman and Aldanore Siryambonio export is based on pharmaceuticalls, high tech products, green tech products, agricultural goods (no animal products) and (ironically) raw materials through my storefront.

Diplomacy and War in Modern Times
Canhadast bases it's diplomatic policy on two major things, familiarity and profit. Canhadasti politicians are very conservative, and therefore would prefer supporting the status quo. However, individual alliances are almost never made. Instead, Canhadast defends its interests. If a nation conducts a lot of business with Canhadast, they would generally receive some sort of aid in a defensive conflict. If Canhadast can benefit from an aggressive war monetarily, they will likely also send aid. This is done through accords that are roughly translated as "Agreements of Consideration", in which a foreign country is allowed to petition for help from Canhadast in the case of war. Canhadast generally requests similar consideration as part of the agreement.

1: How long has your nation had diplomatic contact with Canhadast? How familiar is your nation, in it's current form, with Canhadast? A long time (if you can accept my suggestions in the ancient times section) yet especially Aman is probarbly not very familiar with Candahast.

2: What is your nation's diplomatic opinion of Canhadast, if you have an idea at the moment? Aman seems to follow a very similar diplomatic policy although as a state that (mostly, slavery tends to change that) respects national sovereignity above all Aman may consider it a tad too oportunistic of Candahast to lend military aid against foreign states to further own interests.

3: Does your nation wish to have an Agreement of Consideration with Canhadast? I really can't answer that right now, it would require much consideration for my state to have a such.

4: Is your nation in any way hostile towards Canhadast? Not unless Candahast is hostile to Aman and/or Aldanore Siryambonio, or entertain racist policies towards the Quendi nations (all races native to Aman is considered part of this group)
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Religion
I don't have much recent stuff written about Canhadasti religion, but I brought over an SMS article I wrote over the summer when I was creating the concept for Canhadast. One important aspect that I didn't originally consider, but became important later is a mixture of Theravada Buddhism (that is, the specific school of Buddhism common to Thailand and Laos) and polytheistic Canhadasti traditionalism. Additionally, certain "Mysteries" or "Cults" (in the Roman sense, not the Waco Massacre sense) are really more like Fraternities, such as the Masons.

1: Does your nation have any Canhadasti derived religions, particularly the Cult of Adonis, Canhadasti Polytheism, or Canhadasti-Buddhism? (Note, offshoot sects are fine with me).
Possibly, this should be discussed in detail, it will be the only few religion tolerated and surviving in the Ani environment.. (Canhadasti Polytheism, Canhadasti-Buddhism is too close to Ani (Religion) to be popular, Cult of Adonis is a big nono)

2: Has your nation ever attempted to send missionaries to Canhadast? If so, to what extent?
Missionaries isn't a popular thing, but it is possible to spread to Canhadast.

Commerce in Ancient Times (pre-1200CE)
The Kanaanim had an expansive trade network, often choosing to buy wares from other countries rather than producing them outright, in order to turn a better profit. Because of this, very early on various peoples in what is now Canhadast came into contact with people all over the globe. The height of this was during the Tsurian period, when the city state of Tsur controlled most of present day Canhadast. Because of this, the exonym for most Canhadasti people is "Tsuri", "Tsurian" or some variant of that. Canhadasti merchants would often set up small trading colonies to function as ports, and to keep local wives and families. Most of them would not have had sustainable populations, or would have married into the local populace.

1: Did Canhadasti merchants ever visit your shores? If so, what did your people want to buy?
Luxury goods that isn't produced in Ani. On an unrelated note, we could trade oriental fruits and food back along with silk & china.

2: If so, did they set up any historical colonies? What happened to them?
Possibly not any major one due to the xenophobic nature of Ani in their own country (But not so elsewhere), but they will have small community and such to support merchant trade, I believe. It is possible that they set up one in the northern port of Ani, only to have them devastated by the destruction of the Northern Alliance around 800 A.D..

3: Were* there any lasting impacts?
Yes, import of Kanaanite goods and cultural item into Ani (And possibly backward?) will definitely influence Ani.

War in Ancient Times
The Kanaanim were not a warlike people, but sometimes expanded their influence with the sword of their mercenary armies, or with their mighty fleets.

1: Did any part of your country ever go to war with a Kanaani state? If so, how did that turn out?
Nope, too far away.

2: Did any Kanaani state carve out a colonial province in your nation?
I don't think it is probable, Ani has a french - style demographic, namely, it is extremely populous (Relative to other nation) back in those period.

3: Did any nation of your attempt to conquer a part of modern day Canhadast?
Nope, too far away.

4: Is it possible that your nation fits into being one of the conquering states or opposing nations in anything I wrote down in my history thread? Particularly the Siege of Tsur? (I will choose whoever fits the bill best.)
It is possible that in one of the dramatic battle between the various feudal / semi-feudal alliances one alliance decide to invade Canhadast after fleeing from their opponent / attempting to expand their power. As with the attempt to dominate Edom, the effort will definitely break down as soon as their conquest is complete - They will start fighting among themselves.

Commerce in Modern Times (Post 1200CE)
Much like in ancient times, Canhadasti traders like to do business in person. Many, as part of a larger group, will travel to foreign countries and set up shop. Often, these temporary immigrants will form a "Little Canhadast" within a foreign coastal city where they might build a community temple or two. Today, 1 in 10 Canhadasti people, citizen and non-citizen, temporarily live overseas. Canhadasti banks are notable for not only protecting the information of their clients, as do many German-speaking banks, but of outright resisting attempts by foreign nations to take any such information as criminal evidence. Because of that, Canhadast is considered a safe nation to conduct overseas banking. One of the few major industries that Canhadast does have, and that it protects, is the aerospace industry, a national pride. Canhadast also produces ships for export, and is a net exporter of energy. clothing, crude oil, and natural gas. Canhadast is, however, a net importer of most other raw materials and industrial goods, but especially steel, iron, automobiles, and consumer electronics.

1: Does Canhadast have any community of immigrants in your nation? If so, in which cities, with approximate populations if you can.
In the northern cities, and New Shunde. (Cannot decide approx population now..)

2: Is Canhadast a major trade partner? Again, much like in ancient times, Canhadasti traders don't really care where their goods come from, so what I produce through industry isn't really relevant. What does your nation need?
Yes. I will need most luxury goods that isn't available/

3: If Canhadast is not a major trade partner with your nation, what is the extent of trade between our nations?

4: What does your nation produce that Canhadast needs? Remember, iron and steel are common exports, so just because you do export them doesn't necessarily mean it's cheap enough for Canhadast to import them.
No idea. Tea, Silk , China, Entertainment product, clothing, etc. (Polymer for modern)

Diplomacy and War in Modern Times
Canhadast bases it's diplomatic policy on two major things, familiarity and profit. Canhadasti politicians are very conservative, and therefore would prefer supporting the status quo. However, individual alliances are almost never made. Instead, Canhadast defends its interests. If a nation conducts a lot of business with Canhadast, they would generally receive some sort of aid in a defensive conflict. If Canhadast can benefit from an aggressive war monetarily, they will likely also send aid. This is done through accords that are roughly translated as "Agreements of Consideration", in which a foreign country is allowed to petition for help from Canhadast in the case of war. Canhadast generally requests similar consideration as part of the agreement.

1: How long has your nation had diplomatic contact with Canhadast? How familiar is your nation, in it's current form, with Canhadast?
Qartcanhadast wa Ani haElion!
2: What is your nation's diplomatic opinion of Canhadast, if you have an idea at the moment?
See 1.
3: Does your nation wish to have an Agreement of Consideration with Canhadast?
See 1.
4: Is your nation in any way hostile towards Canhadast?
See 1.
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Quendi, couple things

About the historical colonies, that sounds great. As for being politely asked to leave Aman, that'd probably never come up. Once commerce dries up, so do to Canhadasti.

As for the enclaves, that sounds like a really cool idea. What if the descendants of the original colonies in Aldanore Siryambonio sort of meshed with local society, became loyal Quendi citizens, and later modern Canhadasti came to conduct trade and settled in the same districts that the Quendi-Kanaanim lived in? Trade with AS could be fairly good, say enough to support a Canhadasti (both Quendi Citizen and non-Citizen) of around 2% in some coastal cities. What do you think?

Regarding missionaries, can you provide a link to something about Quendi religion? If it fits well enough, those missionaries might very well have been successful.

One final thing regarding the opportunism of the Canhadasti Republic, it's tempered by the fact that wars are expensive. However, if, for instance, Riemaia wants to attack some random nation, and promised Canhadasti merchants some really beneficial trade deal for the area, we might go ahead and give them a discount on bullets and missiles. Just a hypothetical. But yes, it is very opportunistic. Idealism is for young republics.

Thanks again for taking the time to fill it out.
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Quendi, couple things

About the historical colonies, that sounds great. As for being politely asked to leave Aman, that'd probably never come up. Once commerce dries up, so do to Canhadasti.

As for the enclaves, that sounds like a really cool idea. What if the descendants of the original colonies in Aldanore Siryambonio sort of meshed with local society, became loyal Quendi citizens, and later modern Canhadasti came to conduct trade and settled in the same districts that the Quendi-Kanaanim lived in? Trade with AS could be fairly good, say enough to support a Canhadasti (both Quendi Citizen and non-Citizen) of around 2% in some coastal cities. What do you think?

Regarding missionaries, can you provide a link to something about Quendi religion? If it fits well enough, those missionaries might very well have been successful.

One final thing regarding the opportunism of the Canhadasti Republic, it's tempered by the fact that wars are expensive. However, if, for instance, Riemaia wants to attack some random nation, and promised Canhadasti merchants some really beneficial trade deal for the area, we might go ahead and give them a discount on bullets and missiles. Just a hypothetical. But yes, it is very opportunistic. Idealism is for young republics.

Thanks again for taking the time to fill it out.
About enclaves if by "mesh" you mean interbreeding that will probarbly be a bit difficult to fit into my history. Even today most quendi are racists and believe their own race to be the choosen people (today they are however polite enough not to be open about that). While the six tribes that up until 1841 AD constitued the entire Aldanore Siryambonio populace are of lowborn nando origin they still had a superiority complex and where not too keen on to close relations with the outside world. Likewise citizenship of Aldanore Siryambonio is based on jus sanguinis. So if at all possible I would prefer that any "meshing" could be in the form of RL Al-Andalus where the cultures remain separate and distinct, but where good relations are none the less existing. I am however willing to work out a different solution if this doesn't suit you.

About quendi religion it is a variety of many different religions most of which I have never fully fleshed out so I can't really give you a link. My culture is generally based on the mythology of J.R.R. Tolkien (surprise) but on the matter of religion his catholic beliefs corresponds badly to my own wishes for the quendi, which means that I have improvised quite a bit when it comes to religion. The particular brand of religion that will have been attempted exported from Aldanore Siryambonio will be a polytheist religion (but with a very strong female deity as the greatest god, making the religion slightly matriarchal) drawing inspiration from hinduism, buddhism, chinese religions and possibly even shinto and ancient polytheist mythologies. Ancestor worship, belief in reincarnation, mysticism will all be elements of the Lindellim religion (I will post about it in my factbook for Aldanore Siryambonio once I get around to doing it and until then questions are of course welcome). So while there may be similarities between our respective religions they are unlikely to be great except perhaps when compared to christianity. Generally the Quendi perceives the world as divided into two religious traditions; an eastern (which they with no humility whatsoever calls the Quendi tradition amongst themselves) and an abrahamic or western. The reason why my people may consider yours religiously enlighted has more to do with the fact that your people aren't abrahamics then it has to do with any actual similarities.

About diplomatic policy in all fairness I shall admit that my state appears to do exactly the same as yours. Prior to the election of chancellor Telcontar there would probarbly have been no difference. But with his election Aman has decided to incorporate just a little bit of idealism into its foreign policy.
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Religion
I don't have much recent stuff written about Canhadasti religion, but I brought over an SMS article I wrote over the summer when I was creating the concept for Canhadast. One important aspect that I didn't originally consider, but became important later is a mixture of Theravada Buddhism (that is, the specific school of Buddhism common to Thailand and Laos) and polytheistic Canhadasti traditionalism. Additionally, certain "Mysteries" or "Cults" (in the Roman sense, not the Waco Massacre sense) are really more like Fraternities, such as the Masons.

1: Does your nation have any Canhadasti derived religions, particularly the Cult of Adonis, Canhadasti Polytheism, or Canhadasti-Buddhism? (Note, offshoot sects are fine with me).

No

2: Has your nation ever attempted to send missionaries to Canhadast? If so, to what extent?

Probably sometime in the early 9th Century AD when the Premislydische Parthenon came around. It would've been very localized in terms of missionaries actually being sent.

Commerce in Ancient Times (pre-1200CE)
The Kanaanim had an expansive trade network, often choosing to buy wares from other countries rather than producing them outright, in order to turn a better profit. Because of this, very early on various peoples in what is now Canhadast came into contact with people all over the globe. The height of this was during the Tsurian period, when the city state of Tsur controlled most of present day Canhadast. Because of this, the exonym for most Canhadasti people is "Tsuri", "Tsurian" or some variant of that. Canhadasti merchants would often set up small trading colonies to function as ports, and to keep local wives and families. Most of them would not have had sustainable populations, or would have married into the local populace.

1: Did Canhadasti merchants ever visit your shores? If so, what did your people want to buy?

Yes. Not sure.

2: If so, did they set up any historical colonies? What happened to them?

They set up colonies on the Kanaanite Channel, most notably in the present-day area of Kazka and Slovija. They were kicked out by the Slovic barbarians in the 400s AD

3: Where there any lasting impacts?

Yes. Due to Canhadasti control over the local Taran people (whom were originally nomads originating from Canhadast in the 4500sBCE), the Taran people became adept at making ships, trading, and other things.

War in Ancient Times
The Kanaanim were not a warlike people, but sometimes expanded their influence with the sword of their mercenary armies, or with their mighty fleets.

1: Did any part of your country ever go to war with a Kanaani state? If so, how did that turn out?

No

2: Did any Kanaani state carve out a colonial province in your nation?

Yes. Up until the 400sAD, Canhadast had control over the present-day territories of Slovija and Kazka.

3: Did any nation of your attempt to conquer a part of modern day Canhadast?

No

4: Is it possible that your nation fits into being one of the conquering states or opposing nations in anything I wrote down in my history thread? Particularly the Siege of Tsur? (I will choose whoever fits the bill best.)

Possibly. A good choice would be the Urkans whom were under the command of Ataman Timofey Alekseyevich Mikhailov.

Commerce in Modern Times (Post 1200CE)
Much like in ancient times, Canhadasti traders like to do business in person. Many, as part of a larger group, will travel to foreign countries and set up shop. Often, these temporary immigrants will form a "Little Canhadast" within a foreign coastal city where they might build a community temple or two. Today, 1 in 10 Canhadasti people, citizen and non-citizen, temporarily live overseas. Canhadasti banks are notable for not only protecting the information of their clients, as do many German-speaking banks, but of outright resisting attempts by foreign nations to take any such information as criminal evidence. Because of that, Canhadast is considered a safe nation to conduct overseas banking. One of the few major industries that Canhadast does have, and that it protects, is the aerospace industry, a national pride. Canhadast also produces ships for export, and is a net exporter of energy. clothing, crude oil, and natural gas. Canhadast is, however, a net importer of most other raw materials and industrial goods, but especially steel, iron, automobiles, and consumer electronics.

1: Does Canhadast have any community of immigrants in your nation? If so, in which cities, with approximate populations if you can.

No.

2: Is Canhadast a major trade partner? Again, much like in ancient times, Canhadasti traders don't really care where their goods come from, so what I produce through industry isn't really relevant. What does your nation need?

No

3: If Canhadast is not a major trade partner with your nation, what is the extent of trade between our nations?

We can talk it out on the IRC

4: What does your nation produce that Canhadast needs? Remember, iron and steel are common exports, so just because you do export them doesn't necessarily mean it's cheap enough for Canhadast to import them.

Steel, Grain, Petroleum products, Vehicles, Farm machinery.

Diplomacy and War in Modern Times
Canhadast bases it's diplomatic policy on two major things, familiarity and profit. Canhadasti politicians are very conservative, and therefore would prefer supporting the status quo. However, individual alliances are almost never made. Instead, Canhadast defends its interests. If a nation conducts a lot of business with Canhadast, they would generally receive some sort of aid in a defensive conflict. If Canhadast can benefit from an aggressive war monetarily, they will likely also send aid. This is done through accords that are roughly translated as "Agreements of Consideration", in which a foreign country is allowed to petition for help from Canhadast in the case of war. Canhadast generally requests similar consideration as part of the agreement.

1: How long has your nation had diplomatic contact with Canhadast? How familiar is your nation, in it's current form, with Canhadast?

We can discuss on the IRC, but I'm certain that given our close proximity to each other, we'd be well acquainted.


2: What is your nation's diplomatic opinion of Canhadast, if you have an idea at the moment?

None so far due to the lack of communication between modern Canhadast and the current Premislyd state

3: Does your nation wish to have an Agreement of Consideration with Canhadast?

Sure

4: Is your nation in any way hostile towards Canhadast?

Given the historical ties, no.
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This is for mostly for Tehraan, as it is more defining on my history and political affairs. Might do a specific one for past Tjirgrizian and Katainian native people of Tehraani if possible, some other time.

Religion
I don't have much recent stuff written about Canhadasti religion, but I brought over an SMS article I wrote over the summer when I was creating the concept for Canhadast. One important aspect that I didn't originally consider, but became important later is a mixture of Theravada Buddhism (that is, the specific school of Buddhism common to Thailand and Laos) and polytheistic Canhadasti traditionalism. Additionally, certain "Mysteries" or "Cults" (in the Roman sense, not the Waco Massacre sense) are really more like Fraternities, such as the Masons.

1: Does your nation have any Canhadasti derived religions, particularly the Cult of Adonis, Canhadasti Polytheism, or Canhadasti-Buddhism? (Note, offshoot sects are fine with me).

Yes, Candahasti-Buddhism could be responsible for Buddhism among the Tehraanians, about 3% of all Tehraanians identifies as a Buddhist.


2: Has your nation ever attempted to send missionaries to Canhadast? If so, to what extent?

Commerce in Ancient Times (pre-1200CE)
The Kanaanim had an expansive trade network, often choosing to buy wares from other countries rather than producing them outright, in order to turn a better profit. Because of this, very early on various peoples in what is now Canhadast came into contact with people all over the globe. The height of this was during the Tsurian period, when the city state of Tsur controlled most of present day Canhadast. Because of this, the exonym for most Canhadasti people is "Tsuri", "Tsurian" or some variant of that. Canhadasti merchants would often set up small trading colonies to function as ports, and to keep local wives and families. Most of them would not have had sustainable populations, or would have married into the local populace.

1: Did Canhadasti merchants ever visit your shores? If so, what did your people want to buy?

It would depend where you visit. But in most cases it would probably valuable minerals or technology that the local Tehraani tribes don't have.

2: If so, did they set up any historical colonies? What happened to them?

Considering Tehraanian society at that time period they probably be attacked or raided at one point. Tehraani culture is very territorial, you don't go live somewhere in somebodies else territory and expect the locals to abide by that, atleast not in Tehraan.

If they did ever set a colony as described without permission from the Elr in that area and local tribal leaders they'd the Candahasti colonist probably end up as slaves and absorbed among other slaves and more or less dissapeard. Provided that colony wasn't protected sufficiently of course. Technically it could have resulted in a large conflict if the colony was protected enough. Against if they had that Elr's permission they would be save, except for those not from that area.

3: Where there any lasting impacts?

Maybe accelerate development in one area. Or nothing really significant, not sure.

War in Ancient Times
The Kanaanim were not a warlike people, but sometimes expanded their influence with the sword of their mercenary armies, or with their mighty fleets.

1: Did any part of your country ever go to war with a Kanaani state? If so, how did that turn out?

Maybe at one point. Really depends when and where. PT Tehraanian activity has been mostly in their on land mass. Except for some piracy adventurism but even that wasn't very far from their region. If a Kanaani state came to Tehraan however it could be a possibility

2: Did any Kanaani state carve out a colonial province in your nation?

Again yes that is possible. They might have colonized some parts of Tehraan in the past.

3: Did any nation of your attempt to conquer a part of modern day Canhadast?

4: Is it possible that your nation fits into being one of the conquering states or opposing nations in anything I wrote down in my history thread? Particularly the Siege of Tsur? (I will choose whoever fits the bill best.)

Commerce in Modern Times (Post 1200CE)
Much like in ancient times, Canhadasti traders like to do business in person. Many, as part of a larger group, will travel to foreign countries and set up shop. Often, these temporary immigrants will form a "Little Canhadast" within a foreign coastal city where they might build a community temple or two. Today, 1 in 10 Canhadasti people, citizen and non-citizen, temporarily live overseas. Canhadasti banks are notable for not only protecting the information of their clients, as do many German-speaking banks, but of outright resisting attempts by foreign nations to take any such information as criminal evidence. Because of that, Canhadast is considered a safe nation to conduct overseas banking. One of the few major industries that Canhadast does have, and that it protects, is the aerospace industry, a national pride. Canhadast also produces ships for export, and is a net exporter of energy. clothing, crude oil, and natural gas. Canhadast is, however, a net importer of most other raw materials and industrial goods, but especially steel, iron, automobiles, and consumer electronics.

1: Does Canhadast have any community of immigrants in your nation? If so, in which cities, with approximate populations if you can.

They would be in Tehraan's capital of Tsantatsena and/or Tehraani's capital city Amedaiye depending where their interrests are. The population wouldn't probably be extremely big compared to the locals. Maybe 1000-10.000 or something, I'm not really sure what a realistic number would be

2: Is Canhadast a major trade partner? Again, much like in ancient times, Canhadasti traders don't really care where their goods come from, so what I produce through industry isn't really relevant. What does your nation need?

There's probably is a good trading relationship between modern day Tehraan and Canhadast, the Hegemonic union in modern times. Crude oil would be a welcomed export to Tehraan for it's refineries to process and consume or export to allied and other HU member states.

However since there has been a lot of turmoil in 20th century it might vary greatly if you go before the creation of a unified Tehraanian nation. They could have support the Raman Empire or Union of Tedan during the first war great Tehraani war. And during the second, they could have provided aid for Raman Empire against the communists.

Non of that would really affect current day political relations but it would create a better basis for later diplomatic contact.


3: If Canhadast is not a major trade partner with your nation, what is the extent of trade between our nations?

4: What does your nation produce that Canhadast needs? Remember, iron and steel are common exports, so just because you do export them doesn't necessarily mean it's cheap enough for Canhadast to import them.

Well Iron and steel is a possibility and that automobiles is very much possible. Beyond that there's exotic goods like spices or general agricultural products like rice or soy. It would really depend on the Canhadasti preferances.


Diplomacy and War in Modern Times
Canhadast bases it's diplomatic policy on two major things, familiarity and profit. Canhadasti politicians are very conservative, and therefore would prefer supporting the status quo. However, individual alliances are almost never made. Instead, Canhadast defends its interests. If a nation conducts a lot of business with Canhadast, they would generally receive some sort of aid in a defensive conflict. If Canhadast can benefit from an aggressive war monetarily, they will likely also send aid. This is done through accords that are roughly translated as "Agreements of Consideration", in which a foreign country is allowed to petition for help from Canhadast in the case of war. Canhadast generally requests similar consideration as part of the agreement.

1: How long has your nation had diplomatic contact with Canhadast? How familiar is your nation, in it's current form, with Canhadast?

Tehraan-Canhadast diplomatic contact can be as early as the creation of the Democratic States of Tehraan, the first unified Tehraani nation. Depending Canhadast's contact before the wars with the Tehraani nations/states/empires etc.

2: What is your nation's diplomatic opinion of Canhadast, if you have an idea at the moment?

If their's trade, it will likely be good. I can't give a better awnser.

3: Does your nation wish to have an Agreement of Consideration with Canhadast?

Quiet likely yes

4: Is your nation in any way hostile towards Canhadast?

Hostile no, suspicious and cautious yes. But that comes for everyone and not just Canhadast.
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@ Quendi: Sounds good. It's your nation, so if you don't want them to mesh, that's your decision. Keep me informed about the religion thing as you develop it though.

@ Prem: I guess we'll catch up on IRC and discuss it. I'll make a note of it here afterward, so I can keep track.

@ Tehraan: Lots of things to discuss. I'll see if I can catch you on IRC tomorrow and talk about it. I'll make a note here as well, afterward.
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Religion
I don't have much recent stuff written about Canhadasti religion, but I brought over an SMS article I wrote over the summer when I was creating the concept for Canhadast. One important aspect that I didn't originally consider, but became important later is a mixture of Theravada Buddhism (that is, the specific school of Buddhism common to Thailand and Laos) and polytheistic Canhadasti traditionalism. Additionally, certain "Mysteries" or "Cults" (in the Roman sense, not the Waco Massacre sense) are really more like Fraternities, such as the Masons.

1: Does your nation have any Canhadasti derived religions, particularly the Cult of Adonis, Canhadasti Polytheism, or Canhadasti-Buddhism? (Note, offshoot sects are fine with me).

No, though it may have before the arrival of Christianity.

2: Has your nation ever attempted to send missionaries to Canhadast? If so, to what extent?

Yes. New Edom had a flurry of missionary activity from the 17th century on. This would have been peaceful missionary work, often approaching the poor or sick.

Commerce in Ancient Times (pre-1200CE)
The Kanaanim had an expansive trade network, often choosing to buy wares from other countries rather than producing them outright, in order to turn a better profit. Because of this, very early on various peoples in what is now Canhadast came into contact with people all over the globe. The height of this was during the Tsurian period, when the city state of Tsur controlled most of present day Canhadast. Because of this, the exonym for most Canhadasti people is "Tsuri", "Tsurian" or some variant of that. Canhadasti merchants would often set up small trading colonies to function as ports, and to keep local wives and families. Most of them would not have had sustainable populations, or would have married into the local populace.

This was in part the basis of Baran and Haranese culture in New Edom. Intermarriage and trade had an effect on things like diet, clothing, trade and culture.
1: Did Canhadasti merchants ever visit your shores? If so, what did your people want to buy?

2: If so, did they set up any historical colonies? What happened to them?
Historical colonies were ultimately overshadowed by the dominance of the Elwe people (related to the Quendi of the Amanite Empire) and absorbed or dominated.
3: Where there any lasting impacts?
Mostly a similarity of language
War in Ancient Times
The Kanaanim were not a warlike people, but sometimes expanded their influence with the sword of their mercenary armies, or with their mighty fleets.

1: Did any part of your country ever go to war with a Kanaani state? If so, how did that turn out?
Probably when the Elwe Confederacy ruled the islands there were violent confrontations over control of trade routes.
2: Did any Kanaani state carve out a colonial province in your nation?
I imagine there probably was during ancient times--I'd say that Bara and Haran Provinces would have had elements of this.
3: Did any nation of your attempt to conquer a part of modern day Canhadast?

4: Is it possible that your nation fits into being one of the conquering states or opposing nations in anything I wrote down in my history thread? Particularly the Siege of Tsur? (I will choose whoever fits the bill best.)
Possibly.
Commerce in Modern Times (Post 1200CE)
Much like in ancient times, Canhadasti traders like to do business in person. Many, as part of a larger group, will travel to foreign countries and set up shop. Often, these temporary immigrants will form a "Little Canhadast" within a foreign coastal city where they might build a community temple or two. Today, 1 in 10 Canhadasti people, citizen and non-citizen, temporarily live overseas. Canhadasti banks are notable for not only protecting the information of their clients, as do many German-speaking banks, but of outright resisting attempts by foreign nations to take any such information as criminal evidence. Because of that, Canhadast is considered a safe nation to conduct overseas banking. One of the few major industries that Canhadast does have, and that it protects, is the aerospace industry, a national pride. Canhadast also produces ships for export, and is a net exporter of energy. clothing, crude oil, and natural gas. Canhadast is, however, a net importer of most other raw materials and industrial goods, but especially steel, iron, automobiles, and consumer electronics.

1: Does Canhadast have any community of immigrants in your nation? If so, in which cities, with approximate populations if you can.
Fineberg, Harbourtown, Lookinghaven, Sterry, Nass
(11,000; 4500; 3564, 7900, 2700)
2: Is Canhadast a major trade partner? Again, much like in ancient times, Canhadasti traders don't really care where their goods come from, so what I produce through industry isn't really relevant. What does your nation need?
New Edom needs: supplements to her agriculture, smelted metals, clothing, manufactured household goods, chemical products.
3: If Canhadast is not a major trade partner with your nation, what is the extent of trade between our nations?

4: What does your nation produce that Canhadast needs? Remember, iron and steel are common exports, so just because you do export them doesn't necessarily mean it's cheap enough for Canhadast to import them.
Oil, and petroleum based products; manufacture for heavy industry; copper, bauxite; lumber; fish.
Diplomacy and War in Modern Times
Canhadast bases it's diplomatic policy on two major things, familiarity and profit. Canhadasti politicians are very conservative, and therefore would prefer supporting the status quo. However, individual alliances are almost never made. Instead, Canhadast defends its interests. If a nation conducts a lot of business with Canhadast, they would generally receive some sort of aid in a defensive conflict. If Canhadast can benefit from an aggressive war monetarily, they will likely also send aid. This is done through accords that are roughly translated as "Agreements of Consideration", in which a foreign country is allowed to petition for help from Canhadast in the case of war. Canhadast generally requests similar consideration as part of the agreement.

1: How long has your nation had diplomatic contact with Canhadast? How familiar is your nation, in it's current form, with Canhadast?
New Edom has been familiar with Candahast since the 16th century, and has generally pursued trade.
2: What is your nation's diplomatic opinion of Canhadast, if you have an idea at the moment?
New Edom's current government sees Candahast as a nation of financial interests that can be useful, and as people who share a common cultural heritage that are respected as such. Politically it is seen as neutral.
3: Does your nation wish to have an Agreement of Consideration with Canhadast?
Yes
4: Is your nation in any way hostile towards Canhadast?
No.
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