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Canhadasti History Questionnaire (Semi-stolen from New Edom)
Topic Started: Mar 27 2012, 03:30 AM (504 Views)
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My History, for reference.

This is just a questionnaire for anyone interested, so that I can integrate my history with the region as a whole.

Please leave any answers that are "No" as blank. Thank you.

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[big][u][b]Religion[/b][/u][/big]
I don't have much recent stuff written about Canhadasti religion, but I brought over an [URL=http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/wiki/Religion_in_Canhadast]SMS article[/URL] I wrote over the summer when I was creating the concept for Canhadast. One important aspect that I didn't originally consider, but became important later is a mixture of Theravada Buddhism (that is, the specific school of Buddhism common to Thailand and Laos) and polytheistic Canhadasti traditionalism. Additionally, certain "Mysteries" or "Cults" (in the Roman sense, not the Waco Massacre sense) are really more like Fraternities, such as the Masons.

[b]1: Does your nation have any Canhadasti derived religions, particularly the Cult of Adonis, Canhadasti Polytheism, or Canhadasti-Buddhism? (Note, offshoot sects are fine with me).[/b]

[b]2: Has your nation ever attempted to send missionaries to Canhadast? If so, to what extent?[/b]

[big][u][b]Commerce in Ancient Times (pre-1200CE)[/b][/u][/big]
The Kanaanim had an expansive trade network, often choosing to buy wares from other countries rather than producing them outright, in order to turn a better profit. Because of this, very early on various peoples in what is now Canhadast came into contact with people all over the globe. The height of this was during the Tsurian period, when the city state of Tsur controlled most of present day Canhadast. Because of this, the exonym for most Canhadasti people is "Tsuri", "Tsurian" or some variant of that. Canhadasti merchants would often set up small trading colonies to function as ports, and to keep local wives and families. Most of them would not have had sustainable populations, or would have married into the local populace.

[b]1: Did Canhadasti merchants ever visit your shores? If so, what did your people want to buy?[/b]

[b]2: If so, did they set up any historical colonies? What happened to them?[/b]

[b]3: Where there any lasting impacts?[/b]

[big][u][b]War in Ancient Times[/b][/u][/big]
The Kanaanim were not a warlike people, but sometimes expanded their influence with the sword of their mercenary armies, or with their mighty fleets.

[b]1: Did any part of your country ever go to war with a Kanaani state? If so, how did that turn out?[/b]

[b]2: Did any Kanaani state carve out a colonial province in your nation?[/b]

[b]3: Did any nation of your attempt to conquer a part of modern day Canhadast?[/b]

[b]4: Is it possible that your nation fits into being one of the conquering states or opposing nations in anything I wrote down in my history thread? Particularly the Siege of Tsur? (I will choose whoever fits the bill best.)[/b]

[big][u][b]Commerce in Modern Times (Post 1200CE)[/b][/u][/big]
Much like in ancient times, Canhadasti traders like to do business in person. Many, as part of a larger group, will travel to foreign countries and set up shop. Often, these temporary immigrants will form a "Little Canhadast" within a foreign coastal city where they might build a community temple or two. Today, 1 in 10 Canhadasti people, citizen and non-citizen, temporarily live overseas. Canhadasti banks are notable for not only protecting the information of their clients, as do many German-speaking banks, but of outright resisting attempts by foreign nations to take any such information as criminal evidence. Because of that, Canhadast is considered a safe nation to conduct overseas banking. One of the few major industries that Canhadast does have, and that it protects, is the aerospace industry, a national pride. Canhadast also produces ships for export, and is a net exporter of energy. clothing, crude oil, and natural gas. Canhadast is, however, a net importer of most other raw materials and industrial goods, but especially steel, iron, automobiles, and consumer electronics.

[b]1: Does Canhadast have any community of immigrants in your nation? If so, in which cities, with approximate populations if you can.[/b]

[b]2: Is Canhadast a major trade partner? Again, much like in ancient times, Canhadasti traders don't really care where their goods come from, so what I produce through industry isn't really relevant. What does your nation need?[/b]

[b]3: If Canhadast is not a major trade partner with your nation, what is the extent of trade between our nations?[/b]

[b]4: What does your nation produce that Canhadast needs? Remember, iron and steel are common exports, so just because you do export them doesn't necessarily mean it's cheap enough for Canhadast to import them.[/b]

[big][u][b]Diplomacy and War in Modern Times[/b][/u][/big]
Canhadast bases it's diplomatic policy on two major things, familiarity and profit. Canhadasti politicians are very conservative, and therefore would prefer supporting the status quo. However, individual alliances are almost never made. Instead, Canhadast defends its interests. If a nation conducts a lot of business with Canhadast, they would generally receive some sort of aid in a defensive conflict. If Canhadast can benefit from an aggressive war monetarily, they will likely also send aid. This is done through accords that are roughly translated as "Agreements of Consideration", in which a foreign country is allowed to petition for help from Canhadast in the case of war. Canhadast generally requests similar consideration as part of the agreement.

[b]1: How long has your nation had diplomatic contact with Canhadast? How familiar is your nation, in it's current form, with Canhadast?[/b]

[b]2: What is your nation's diplomatic opinion of Canhadast, if you have an idea at the moment?

[b]3: Does your nation wish to have an Agreement of Consideration with Canhadast?[/b]

[b]4: Is your nation in any way hostile towards Canhadast?[/b]
Edited by Canhadast, Mar 27 2012, 09:16 AM.
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Notes from my discussion with Tehraan.

Buddhism expanded to Tehraani via Canhadasti Buddhists.

Ancient trade enclaves existed from around 500 BCE to a bit after 300 BCE. Eventually one or more large ones remained. In most cases, they disappeared when profits disappeared.

Around 900 CE trade resumed

We'll pick this up more tomorrow.

@New Edom, I will probably talk to you on IRC about this, and again make some notes here for later.
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Okay, sorry about the slow response time, but I wanted to have a more thoroughly developed religion before getting back to you. Realizing that I am unable to make a coherent spiritual tradition I have done my best.

Religion in Aldanore Siryambonio prior to 1841 AD is pretty much inspired by two different traditions of which the most dominant is a form of dualism in which belief is in one overreaching divinity (similar to Hindu Brahman) called the Flame Imperishable on the rare occassions it is mentioned. The Flame Imperishable is the creator of the universe and organized it into male and female aspects (often represented by a variety of Gods and Goddesses). Since the male aspect is transcendent and exists outside the world, whereas the female aspect is immanent and exists in all things the religion has very different religious roles for the different genders, and may be seen as considering woman spiritualy superior. The purpose of the religion is to achieve harmony between the male and female (the taoist principle of yin yang is comparable) which is mostly done by meditation and hierogamy for men and is done by women simply by being women (and such in contact with the immanent female aspect) The believers believe in reincarnation and holds that a spiritualy enlightened life will lead to rebirth in a higher state (sainthood and even semi-godhood is atainable) and has quite a bit of ancestor worship involved. Rituals tend to focus on traditional mythological ritualism with sacrifices (neither humans nor animals), mystic rites etc.
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Apr 8 2012, 05:38 AM
Realizing that I am unable to make a coherent spiritual tradition I have done my best.
I call bullshit. That was a fully coherent spiritual tradition, I will probably create a cult around this for teh win.
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Thats very kind of you to say so. I must admit that of all my religion building attempt this, having central tennets rather than elaborate rituals, is the one I am most pleased with.
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yeah, nobody describes the catholic church as a religion where you eat the body of and drink the blood of a jewish zombie. That would just be weird.
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Apr 9 2012, 04:41 AM
yeah, nobody describes the catholic church as a religion where you eat the body of and drink the blood of a jewish zombie. That would just be weird.
Exactly, but that is how I have pretty much described most of my religions. It is a lot easier to describe a ritual than the core of a religion.
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Religion
I don't have much recent stuff written about Canhadasti religion, but I brought over an SMS article I wrote over the summer when I was creating the concept for Canhadast. One important aspect that I didn't originally consider, but became important later is a mixture of Theravada Buddhism (that is, the specific school of Buddhism common to Thailand and Laos) and polytheistic Canhadasti traditionalism. Additionally, certain "Mysteries" or "Cults" (in the Roman sense, not the Waco Massacre sense) are really more like Fraternities, such as the Masons.

1: Does your nation have any Canhadasti derived religions, particularly the Cult of Adonis, Canhadasti Polytheism, or Canhadasti-Buddhism? (Note, offshoot sects are fine with me).
The Cult of Adonis carries a strong presence along with the traditional Tarsan Pantheon.

2: Has your nation ever attempted to send missionaries to Canhadast? If so, to what extent?
Tarsan Paganism isn't a traveling religion. A lot of it is culture based and would need adaptation. There are likely sects of it elsewhere but not many.

Commerce in Ancient Times (pre-1200CE)
The Kanaanim had an expansive trade network, often choosing to buy wares from other countries rather than producing them outright, in order to turn a better profit. Because of this, very early on various peoples in what is now Canhadast came into contact with people all over the globe. The height of this was during the Tsurian period, when the city state of Tsur controlled most of present day Canhadast. Because of this, the exonym for most Canhadasti people is "Tsuri", "Tsurian" or some variant of that. Canhadasti merchants would often set up small trading colonies to function as ports, and to keep local wives and families. Most of them would not have had sustainable populations, or would have married into the local populace.

1: Did Canhadasti merchants ever visit your shores? If so, what did your people want to buy?
Probably wanted to buy our jewels and wine. Tarsas was and is a rare gem producing country and grows fruits such as grapes. A lot of fertile farmland brought more agricultural exports and silver was exported in a very limited quantity due to mining technology obviously not what it is today. Marble statues also tended to be a valued export.

2: If so, did they set up any historical colonies? What happened to them?
Numerous colonies were set up to trade with the fractured kingdoms that existed back in that time. Most were conquered later of simply married into the local populace.

3: Where there any lasting impacts?
Shipbuilding and sailing technologies were introduced to Tarsas, which began to be used and improved. Some coastal cities have communities of Tarsans with Canhadasti descent.

War in Ancient Times
The Kanaanim were not a warlike people, but sometimes expanded their influence with the sword of their mercenary armies, or with their mighty fleets.

1: Did any part of your country ever go to war with a Kanaani state? If so, how did that turn out?
Probably all of it at some point. Earlier in the BCs, parts of modern day Tarsas were probably conquered. During the unification period, the Tarsan Empire conquered these holdings starting around 400 BC.

2: Did any Kanaani state carve out a colonial province in your nation?
At one point three existed along the coast.

3: Did any nation of your attempt to conquer a part of modern day Canhadast?
Hell yes.

4: Is it possible that your nation fits into being one of the conquering states or opposing nations in anything I wrote down in my history thread? Particularly the Siege of Tsur? (I will choose whoever fits the bill best.)
Probably fits into the vast majority of your past defeats :P

Commerce in Modern Times (Post 1200CE)
Much like in ancient times, Canhadasti traders like to do business in person. Many, as part of a larger group, will travel to foreign countries and set up shop. Often, these temporary immigrants will form a "Little Canhadast" within a foreign coastal city where they might build a community temple or two. Today, 1 in 10 Canhadasti people, citizen and non-citizen, temporarily live overseas. Canhadasti banks are notable for not only protecting the information of their clients, as do many German-speaking banks, but of outright resisting attempts by foreign nations to take any such information as criminal evidence. Because of that, Canhadast is considered a safe nation to conduct overseas banking. One of the few major industries that Canhadast does have, and that it protects, is the aerospace industry, a national pride. Canhadast also produces ships for export, and is a net exporter of energy. clothing, crude oil, and natural gas. Canhadast is, however, a net importer of most other raw materials and industrial goods, but especially steel, iron, automobiles, and consumer electronics.

1: Does Canhadast have any community of immigrants in your nation? If so, in which cities, with approximate populations if you can.
Likely all TArsan coastal cities would have small populations of Canhadasti traders and families.

2: Is Canhadast a major trade partner? Again, much like in ancient times, Canhadasti traders don't really care where their goods come from, so what I produce through industry isn't really relevant. What does your nation need?
We probably buy oil to supplement our limited sea drilling.

3: If Canhadast is not a major trade partner with your nation, what is the extent of trade between our nations?
We most likely trade all the time very extensively, which leads to why neither nation has wanted to upset the balance too much.

4: What does your nation produce that Canhadast needs? Remember, iron and steel are common exports, so just because you do export them doesn't necessarily mean it's cheap enough for Canhadast to import them.
We produce a lot of finished materials and some raw materials. You probably import a lot of finished goods such as automobiles.

Diplomacy and War in Modern Times
Canhadast bases it's diplomatic policy on two major things, familiarity and profit. Canhadasti politicians are very conservative, and therefore would prefer supporting the status quo. However, individual alliances are almost never made. Instead, Canhadast defends its interests. If a nation conducts a lot of business with Canhadast, they would generally receive some sort of aid in a defensive conflict. If Canhadast can benefit from an aggressive war monetarily, they will likely also send aid. This is done through accords that are roughly translated as "Agreements of Consideration", in which a foreign country is allowed to petition for help from Canhadast in the case of war. Canhadast generally requests similar consideration as part of the agreement.

1: How long has your nation had diplomatic contact with Canhadast? How familiar is your nation, in it's current form, with Canhadast?
Thousands of years and extremely.

2: What is your nation's diplomatic opinion of Canhadast, if you have an idea at the moment?
You are our enemies at this point, but due to our extensive capitalist based trade ties, we prefer not to start conflict if we can avoid it.

3: Does your nation wish to have an Agreement of Consideration with Canhadast?
Only for external threats such as an imperialist nation coming to our part of the region.

4: Is your nation in any way hostile towards Canhadast?
Somewhat
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