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"Have you not met Will Turner?"
Topic Started: Jul 27 2006, 04:00 AM (422 Views)
Joe Pancake
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In the scene aboard the Pearl, when Jack is bartering with DJ about the worth of his soul, Jack says the following:


"Have you not met Will Turner? He noble, heroic, *terrific* soprano. Worth at least four... maybe three and a half. And did I happen to mention... he's in love. With a girl. Due to be married. Betrothed. Dividing him from her and her from him... would only be half as cruel as actually allowing them be joined in holy matrimony. "


So, color me stupid and all that, but just what does he mean by this? How would letting them be together be more cruel than keeping Will ? Is it just Jack's way of trying to get DJ to release Will? Because if so, then why, just a few moments both before and after, Jack is completely willing to let Will pay the price of his debt to DJ. The more I try to figure this whole scenario out, the more confused I make myself, lol. *head esplodes*

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Heh heh.. no problemo...


Jack is trying to play at DJ's emotions, knowing what happened to him. (This goes back to DJ's history, him tryng to marry is fiance, getting stuck at sea, her marrying someone else. This give DJ a horrible outlook on love in general, but at the same time, he pitty's people in love.) So Jack is trying to trick DJ, and if you watch is expressions, it's working, until DJ moves to look at Jack.

Everyone thinks Jack truely doesn't mind leaving Will with Davey, but if you think about it, it's Jack just being Jack. he is trying to trick himself out of the situation.

Hope that helps. :D
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Jul 27 2006, 04:22 AM
Heh heh.. no problemo...


Jack is trying to play at DJ's emotions, knowing what happened to him. (This goes back to DJ's history, him tryng to marry is fiance, getting stuck at sea, her marrying someone else. This give DJ a horrible outlook on love in general, but at the same time, he pitty's people in love.) So Jack is trying to trick DJ, and if you watch is expressions, it's working, until DJ moves to look at Jack.


Yes, I understand all that part, playing on his emotions and all. I just couldn't figure out the double talk in my mind. I'm to analytical for my own good sometimes. I overthink things.
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KrissXed
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Haha.. yeah I get it. I do it some time too...

So yeah, It's jsut Jack being Jack... :D
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That exchange between Jack and DJ also makes me think of the line that was in the jr. novelization but not in the movie...where Jack refers to marriage as 'a wager on who will fall out of love first'. Jack's pretty cynical when it comes to all things romantic, LOL. I just figured that his comment to DJ implied that marriage was the cruelest thing that one could impose. That it was better actually to live apart and in pain for the other's loss than to actually go through with it and endure the inevitable breakup.

And yeah, Jack being Jack, he knew what buttons to push on ol' DJ. ;) Not that it did him much good, really, in the end. :rolleyes:
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Actually this whole remark of Jack does work both ways... on the one hand he's trying to have some benefit of DJ keeping Will by trying to lower the amount of souls he has to gather. On the other hand tries to get Will free with this cuel marriage thought.
I think this is very much like Jack; he gives the one he's negotiating with the impression he has various things to chose. If that person doesn't realise these things himself, why not helping him? It may turn out that way, or at least a little better...
Unfortunately DJ didn't fall for the trick and didn't automatically choose between the two options that either way would have benefited Jack.
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A thought that crossed my mind when Jack was talking was why let Will be married and happy? When DJ has suffered so much. Thus hitting DJ soft spot. :)
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To me it was a Jack/Johnny joke: Being married is worse torture than serving 100 years with DJ. :lol: Pretty drastic opinion, don't you think? A few happily married people would disagree with that, but a whole lot more folks would agree whole-heartedly! :D
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