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| Cat's Pyjamas | Mar 19 2014, 11:57 PM Post #1 |
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We know that Churchill was half-american, but he may well have been Jewish through his mother. What do you think of that? Does it help explain his total inflexibility towards Hitler? There is more and more evidence leaking into mainstream history that proves that Hitler went to great lengths to make peace with Britain from September 1939 and throughout 1940. Churchill let 10s of thousands of civilians be killed and millions terrorised nightly during the Blitzkrieg rather than make peace with Hitler on honourable terms. I am no admirer of Churchill. I had long considered him not only an amoral political adventurer, but a politician who saw the world, and the Germans in a 19th century way. Churchill was convinced that Hitler wanted to conquer the whole of Europe including Britain. However as is now known Hitler had no desire to occupy western Europe, and was forced into doing so by Churchill's rigid outdated thinking. Hitler was looking east to Poland and the Ukraine and the oil fields of Baku. Germany had Hitler had his own way would have spread east wards all the way to the Black Sea. Britain and France would have been spared great destruction and almost total bankruptcy in the case of the former, and a 5 year occupation and national humiliation in the case of the latter. The Soviet Union would never have gained a foothold in Europe and we would have most likely have avoided the cold war. The only real winners were the Americans who gained soft control of much of the British empire and made billions rebuilding a devastated Europe. Edited by Cat's Pyjamas, Mar 20 2014, 12:04 AM.
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| Degree | Mar 20 2014, 03:27 PM Post #2 |
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"Does it help explain his total inflexibility towards Hitler?" Where do you youngster get this crap from? Bullshit. Hitler mass murdered millions of people and before that had demonstrated his lack of sincerity by breaking Germany's nonaggression pact with Poland. And you think Britain or anyone else would have trusted him to make peace? Ever heard of Neville Chamberlain? He was the naive fool who met with Hitler and was convinced of his benignness. The truth is that persecution of Jews was widely tolerated in Germany and elsewhere. In fact, Europe is still a steaming pile of anti-Semitism, even in the face of the threat from Islam. Stalin and Hitler were both monsters, but Stalin limited himself to killing his own people. Had Hitler been a domestic monster like Stalin, the world would have ignored him. How about the winners who because of being gay, Jewish, gypsy or disabled were not made into lampshades? How would the French have "won" by being under the Nazis' thumbs? Their women were just fodder for rape and their men would have been made slaves. By the way, did Russia invade Germany or did Germany invade Russia? You think the Germans would have pushed over France and stopped there, when they had the chutzpah to invade the frozen wastelands of Russia? Edited by Degree, Mar 20 2014, 03:30 PM.
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| Piquant | Mar 20 2014, 09:51 PM Post #3 |
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Is Degree a Jew? |
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| Degree | Mar 21 2014, 01:48 PM Post #4 |
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No. I am a Hebrew. |
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| Cat's Pyjamas | Mar 30 2014, 10:17 PM Post #5 |
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That's an interesting reply Degree, are you Kirk Douglas? |
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| Degree | Mar 31 2014, 02:44 PM Post #6 |
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Kirk Douglas is a flaming liberal. |
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| Cat's Pyjamas | Mar 31 2014, 05:38 PM Post #7 |
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I was going to suggest that you were Steven Berkoff but I think that he is liberal to.
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| Cat's Pyjamas | Mar 31 2014, 05:39 PM Post #8 |
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Degree and I are probably the only ones here who know who Kirk Douglas is. |
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| Piquant | Mar 31 2014, 08:00 PM Post #9 |
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Degree adopted a pregnant dog and is finding homes for her puppies. I have to ask, will you have the dog desexed? |
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| Piquant | Mar 31 2014, 08:01 PM Post #10 |
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I'm this close to giving you a lap dance. Reading about people doing right by animals gets me hot. |
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