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Topic Started: Jan 15 2007, 08:26 PM (1,197 Views)
Evil_Henry
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Feb 7 2009, 02:34 PM
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It's possible that I'm the only one with this kind of parental relationship.



Probably. The rest of us seem to have "gotten over it", if you will.

You didn't "get over it".

It's more difficult if you actually talk to them you know. :nosex@
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Hmmm... not too sure what to make of that comment. :unsure:
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Feb 9 2009, 05:26 AM
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It's possible that I'm the only one with this kind of parental relationship.



Probably. The rest of us seem to have "gotten over it", if you will.

You didn't "get over it".

It's more difficult if you actually talk to them you know. :nosex@

Real talk, true story.
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You didn't "get over it".

It's more difficult if you actually talk to them you know.



I can assure you, it's more difficult if you can't.

What most of us spent our early 20's fixing and moving on, you've chosen to carry on into your 30's.

You're like the grasshopper who cried all summer.

And drank.

:nosex@

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Feb 9 2009, 01:23 PM
I can assure you, it's more difficult if you can't.

Of course it isn't and that's precisely what I was getting at.

When a problem ceases you have very little choice but to find closure.

Regardless, I had a really good time with my father to the extent that we're going to Malta in July (not the outcome I expected but refreshingly positive for a change). It's probably just a blip of course.

The weekend did involve a lot of drinking though, you are quite correct.

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Of course it isn't and that's precisely what I was getting at.



Really? And your experience with this is?

I have one parent who is alive, and one parent who is dead. Do you really think that's a problem "ceased"? Lol. Poor Henry.

Rather than spouting about crap you can't possibly know, why don't you look at things the way another person might see them? Complaining about your relationship with your dad is one thing, but to complain about it while drunk as shit at a ridiculous hour of the morning just a bit before you have to go meet him doesn't exactly scream effort, does it?

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Rather than spouting about crap you can't possibly know, why don't you look at things the way another person might see them?


You really don't see the irony in that at all do you? It's hypocritical, pompous and self-indulgent. Someone being dead very definitely introduces closure. There's very little a dead person can do to continually introduce fresh aggravation, unless of course he left a series of time-released messages to taunt you from beyond the grave.

You have an unswerving and inexorable ability to see things only from your own perspective and rampage around like some blinkered horse, entirely blind to any sense of perspective.
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Your entire post is laughable. You really have absolutely no self-awareness whatsoever.

You're bordering on delusional.

I'm sorry you feel your father aggravates you so much - really, not seeing him for 8 years and then showing up drunk must have really warmed his heart. I can see the effort you must have put into your relationship with him. Your actions clearly speak for themselves.

With that sort of effort, I'm amazed that you even have the energy to post.
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Evil_Henry
Feb 9 2009, 09:27 AM
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Rather than spouting about crap you can't possibly know, why don't you look at things the way another person might see them?


You really don't see the irony in that at all do you? It's hypocritical, pompous and self-indulgent. Someone being dead very definitely introduces closure. There's very little a dead person can do to continually introduce fresh aggravation, unless of course he left a series of time-released messages to taunt you from beyond the grave.

I think there's more baggage (to deal with) in losing a parent than ignoring one for years. It's easier when you have the choice to pretend someone doesn't exist.
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Just to re-iterate, the weekend went very well. Don't you think your post would be so much more effective if your points had merit?

Don't let facts get in the way of a diatribe.

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You really have absolutely no self-awareness whatsoever.


This is, if I'm being especially generous, very much a pot / kettle scenario. I do like your indignant "I'm totally balanced and have no issues at all" stance which you seem to be parading, something which is patently false. The fact that you think you resolved all of your issues in your twenties is testament to that and utterly farcical.

As for me, I'm not calling for sympathy or even obscuring the facts. I drink, way too heavily, and am guilty of being a complete idiot on many occasions. I don't dispute it, I don't blame anyone and the reasons for it are entirely of my own making.

That may be moronic but it is a considerable distance from delusional. Maybe if you have a look at yourself some time you'll spot one or two failings but I very much doubt it. That, miss, is delusional.
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I have issues. Everyone has issues.

You expect the world to understand that your issues are far worse than anyone else's issues, and should excuse your behaviour and general apathy towards life.

I don't.

Therein lies the difference.

I cannot stop laughing at your accusations. Really, they are hilarious.

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I don't dispute it, I don't blame anyone and the reasons for it are entirely of my own making.


Finally. We're on track here. Except that you do blame people - you blame your parents. You had a semi-privileged life, no real death or mortality issues to deal with, have never been homeless, abused, or have ever really lost anything. So you insist on making these mommy-and-daddy issues that...sometimes it's like listenning to a spoiled brat whine that she didn't get the pony she wanted.

Your life is a poor excuse for alcoholism.



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Losing a parent does not bring closure, but rather it removes any hope of it.


(that spelling error really did make a difference)
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What I want to know is why there is so much damn tension against Henry all of a sudden?


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There's no tension. I'm not being mean - and I have no intention of escalating it further...

I just think it's a waste.
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ugh.


nevermind.
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No, in general. I just feel like all of a sudden everyone is...


Okay, I'll be honest, I feel like you and Swords (at least, sure I've seen more), are being not exactly friendy.
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uh...Pest and Swords aren't known for their exact friendliness.

Perhaps your developing friendship with Henry is giving you a different perspective?



Henry is right. A dead parent does bring closure. So, shape up and enjoy your time with your father, drunk or not, with the joy of having him there with you...lest you get closure before you're ready for it.
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I've always been friends with Henry.


You seem to mistake my question as a personal attack.


It was, what it was, a question.



I wasn't sure if I was missing something.
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Feb 10 2009, 02:27 AM
There's no tension. I'm not being mean - and I have no intention of escalating it further...

I just think it's a waste.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Sure you do, love.

Let's hope ConfusedMonkey learned her lesson, eh?
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Feb 10 2009, 02:30 AM
No, in general.  I just feel like all of a sudden everyone is...


Okay, I'll be honest, I feel like you and Swords (at least, sure I've seen more), are being not exactly friendy.

Seriously this just pisses me off.

WHERE have I been unfriendly? Is this just more of you "lumping me in" with Pest? (RE: your recollition of what I had said--or not said--about mori being more than a little fuzzy).

Henry and I go back as long as this board, and sweety he dishes as much (sometimes more) than he gets back. He's a big boy and I suspect he can take it.

The truth (now shhhhh, you'll cramp his "style"), is that I actually like Henry. ButIthinkhealreadyknewthat.
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