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Isn't this Board Great Without Plague???; or Mock... same thing...
Topic Started: Apr 22 2008, 05:24 PM (5,749 Views)
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What kills me about all of this is Skull's wanky posts going on and on about understanding other people - all the while ignoring that, perhaps, some people are perfectly justified in disliking other people.

Skull seems to be upset when people don't like his friends. I'm not sure why this upsets him so much.

Are we supposed to tell you our sob stories, Skull? Is that why you're being so pissy? Not a fan of people that don't confide in you? All I see is a bunch of intolerant crap from Skull, calling people pieces of shit if they don't like his friends.


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and I don't blankly support anyone or a woman just because she is a woman.


You openly said, on this forum, you would believe a woman over a man. That it's just the way you are - so the above is a lie.


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I am sure this is part of a backlash because I mentioned Sur's painting? And someone is still bent over it?


No idea what this garble is supposed to mean. No one has mentioned Sur.

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She's in the trenches more than a lot of you women who don't even talk of having a career or doing shit to support your families. (Total Respect to those that do)


Just because some women don't tell you what they do to support their families, or whine and moan about having to work in the chatroom, doesn't mean they don't work as hard or harder than Deb does. You seem to think that if a woman doesn't confide these things in you, she doesn't do it. You're very wrong.

I don't talk about my life with you because you're a self-absorbed, shallow pansy of a man. You have no grip on reality. Your toughest decision in a day is what type of deoderant you're going to wear. You're like the spoiled kid at school that chimes in with "Oh yeah? I have TWO of those at home!" when someone mentions a gift they received. You spend more time worrying about your body fat percentage than you do worrying about getting a fucking career.

You have an issue that people on here have met eachother. Is it because no one wants to meet you? You call down real relationships people have with eachother, while all you have are internet women telling you sob stories that you fall for faster than a down-syndrome kid on a fucking downhill race to a toy store.

You're pissed that Marsha lied to you, but you're so stupid you'll defend her still because you can't admit you're wrong.

Search out humanity in your real life, Skull. Leave a chatroom to what it should be - entertainment value. Chat is like television, don't believe every fucking thing you see on it. Marsha wasn't raped, and there is no fucking Spiderman.








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Leave a chatroom to what it should be - entertainment value.

I'm sorry Pest, I like you, but I have to disagree on that one statement. Yes most of the time chat is for amusement, I mean, thats what I use it for.

But look at how you met your husband. Through chat or a forum, am I correct?

And you have a meaningful relationship with him right?

So don't entirely rule out the fact that some people really do just like to make friendships online. It all worked out for you hun.

Now bend over and gimme somma that sweet, sweet Canadian ass!

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We met - based on phone and messenger conversations.

Not chatroom conversations.

I have several friendships online. You don't see me running around, posting on internet forums about people being misunderstood survivors, whining because other people don't like my friends -

All the while condemning chatters that have formed real life relationships.

That would be the difference. It's a crucial difference.

Chatrooms have value, don't misunderstand me. But Marsha lied to Skull - it is evident by how fast she stopped posting on here when I told her I've talked to Liam. People lie in chatrooms - it IS like television. Everything you see needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Doing so isn't being heartless, or mean, or failing to see the humanity in people. Recognizing that every chatter you speak to is one side of a story IS seeing the humanity in people.

Everyone thinks they are a realist - do you know how impossible that is? That everyone who thinks they are a realist actually is a realist? 95% of people think they work a debit machine faster than everyone else. Most people think they are great drivers. Perception is a bitch that fucks with everyone.

My GOD, if I had a fucking dollar for every chat person that's lied to me, I could probably buy your ass. Over the years, I've had so many people sell me bullshit it's amazing. Mori's lied to me, Amish lied, Phred lied, Marsha lied, Bluewind lies on a daily basis, Laby lied, Roll tries to lie but he's really shit at it, Will lied, Tart lied, O Sure fucking lied about her husband being dead, Envy lied, Wasted DNA lied, General lied...the list is fucking endless.

Skull can believe everyone he comes across. Fine. He thinks it's admirable, it's for him. But the second he tries to shove his beliefs down my throat it's not fine. All his posts consist of some chatter he believes, and his problem with other people not believing her. He can't walk away with a simple "You don't like her, I do. Big whoop." mentality - no. He has to sit on here and call people pieces of shit, and whine about humanity.



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I am suprised that you didn't Quote and then Correct my typos.

It's not about if you like or dislike my friends. I have been at odds with Deb too over things that I thought were not worthy of being upset over; but we worked it out. I took time to resolve it so there wasn't tension. That is how I got to know her on a deeper level.

I said I would believe a woman over a man in context or a rape case. Don't try to hang me with those words now by saying I always side with women. I am not doing that with you now am I? Weird. So watch who you call a liar and why. You should make sure it's valid.

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Just because some women don't tell you what they do to support their families, or whine and moan about having to work in the chatroom, doesn't mean they don't work as hard or harder than Deb does. You seem to think that if a woman doesn't confide these things in you, she doesn't do it. You're very wrong.


I don't need them to tell me and it's not hard to figure out. People that work talk about it. Simple as that. After years of talking to people you find this shit out. Hiding it for years seems to indicate you fear people knowing to much about the real you. Perhaps you give less and therefore it's less real to you than others.

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I don't talk about my life with you because you're a self-absorbed, shallow pansy of a man. You have no grip on reality. Your toughest decision in a day is what type of deoderant you're going to wear. You're like the spoiled kid at school that chimes in with "Oh yeah? I have TWO of those at home!" when someone mentions a gift they received. You spend more time worrying about your body fat percentage than you do worrying about getting a fucking career.


What is your evidence of being self absorbed? The fact that I share personal things about myself? Umm...ok. No grip on reality? Can you clarify? Again. You hardly know me; so what basis do you have to state that as a truth? I don't even wear deoderant as I am allergic to it. I also don't sweat much and normal showers keep away an sorta BO most people might have. I also wear light cologne. I can give you a list of preferred scents I wear in case you'd like to categorize and label me based on that information as well.

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You have an issue that people on here have met eachother. Is it because no one wants to meet you? You call down real relationships people have with eachother, while all you have are internet women telling you sob stories that you fall for faster than a down-syndrome kid on a fucking downhill race to a toy store.


I don't have an issues with it. I think it's funny that YOU think it's more stable than meeting people through conventional methods. I have met and fucked all sorts of people off the net. I just didn't intend or think it would be fruitful. Please don't assume chat is all I am; or all I do. You are the one with downs if you think that.

I have empathy for others. I feel others. Do you?

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You're pissed that Marsha lied to you, but you're so stupid you'll defend her still because you can't admit you're wrong.


When did I say I was pissed about anything Marsha told me? I never.

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Search out humanity in your real life, Skull. Leave a chatroom to what it should be - entertainment value. Chat is like television, don't believe every fucking thing you see on it. Marsha wasn't raped, and there is no fucking Spiderman.


Anything that a person does is real. Chat is just as real as life offline. People that want to say mean shit and tear others down and call it entertainment are just pathetic. You have to consider actions online fake and offline real in order to still feel good aboout yourself.

No one knows the truth about Marsha's Rape. You nor I know the truth so don't fucking pretend you do.

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I don't talk about my life with you because you're a self-absorbed, shallow pansy of a man. You have no grip on reality. Your toughest decision in a day is what type of deoderant you're going to wear. You're like the spoiled kid at school that chimes in with "Oh yeah? I have TWO of those at home!" when someone mentions a gift they received. You spend more time worrying about your body fat percentage than you do worrying about getting a fucking career.


or perhaps there isn't much more to share than your raging contempt for all things that are not yours or thought of by you? Do you ever think -- hmm -- I am just too fucking judgemental? EVER!!?!!

Those that have shared with me have been able to get a better feel for who I am and pansy and self absorbed are NOT what they say of me. I am not big on keeping up with the Jones's so I am not sure where you get off with the one upsmanship from me. Pulled outta yer ass with the rest I suppose.

How about you start being a little more real and a little less of a mega bitch? That would be neat.

This is my final post on this shit as I don't intend on being your new fuckin target.

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He can't walk away with a simple "You don't like her, I do. Big whoop." mentality - no. He has to sit on here and call people pieces of shit, and whine about humanity.



And when do you walk away; and not impose your two cents?Double Standard? I think so.
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Now you have a real reason to call me a liar; since I posted again. I'm horrible. Please Burn me at the stake NOW!!!


And for the Record this is only like the 2nd thread I've even gotten that personal on; I don't even think I have posted here 50 times yet. Don't act like I've blown a load all over our this place. You'd still smell of it if I had.
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Chat is just as real as life offline.



No, it's not. It's not even close. It's actually scary you believe that.

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So watch who you call a liar and why. You should make sure it's valid.


It's always valid when I call someone a liar - it's because they have lied to me.

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I don't need them to tell me and it's not hard to figure out. People that work talk about it. Simple as that.


No, it's not simple as that. Not everyone talks about their work - because not everyone demands sympathy for something as basic as working. I work full-time, Sword works full-time - 99% of the women on this board work.

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What is your evidence of being self absorbed?


The way you are in the chatroom. Or am I not supposed to take it as that's who you are? It must be - chat is just as real as offline life is, right? So that makes you a self-absorbed, emo-loving, narcissistic rambler that only cares about his appearance and talking to women.


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No one knows the truth about Marsha's Rape. You nor I know the truth so don't fucking pretend you do.


Yes, I do know the truth - Marsha claimed she called the police. Marsha claimed Liam has been arrested.

He hasn't been. That's the truth right there. Marsha lied about calling the police. What more evidence do you need?


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How about you start being a little more real and a little less of a mega bitch?



And by more real you mean...nicer to you? Nicer to your little friends? Lol.




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I don't even think I have posted here 50 times yet.


Liar! That was post #51 :P

Anyhow...

I'm so confused by this:

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I noticed only the people fucking other people in here are the ones that seem upset. Hmmm, , ,
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I have met and fucked all sorts of people off the net. I just didn't intend or think it would be fruitful.


What are you trying to say? I am fucking someone from the Philo community--we're married. What would "fucking" (or fucking via a relationship) someone from "here" have to do with being "upset" over your posts? :huh:

I'm in a relationship with someone in my every day life, so that makes me bitter about your relationships online? Still not following this line of thinking.

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Just because some women don't tell you what they do to support their families, or whine and moan about having to work in the chatroom, doesn't mean they don't work as hard or harder than Deb does. You seem to think that if a woman doesn't confide these things in you, she doesn't do it. You're very wrong.





I don't need them to tell me and it's not hard to figure out. People that work talk about it. Simple as that. After years of talking to people you find this shit out. Hiding it for years seems to indicate you fear people knowing to much about the real you. Perhaps you give less and therefore it's less real to you than others.


And this I don't get either. Perhaps I just don't understand what you are trying to say... so I'm asking for clarity here.

It sounds like you are saying that you assume those who don't talk about working don't work? In my own head I would assume the opposite. It's like sex; if you get a lot of it, you really don't feel like talking about it. As well, I can guarantee from the chat hours that deb keeps, she's not working tooooo hard. By her own admission she doesn't keep up too good on the chores at home either. Now, Pesti knows me for instance and can verify that I work 50 plus hours a week and I still manage to have time for a husband, friends, my son and my house (it's god-damned spotless). Do I bitch about it on the net? No. Why not? Because I spend enough time working that when I unwind I really don't feel like having superfluous conversations about it. I'm also required by law and contract not to say too much about what it is I do.

As well, I don't feel like letting everyone know (real life or net life) about all of my life's struggles, but I assure you, I've had about as hard a life in some ways as most I've heard of.

The point is, there is much information you are left out from having--I'd save forming definitive opinions until such time you have enough information to do so.

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I was talking about people that don't date at all outside this room and Yes are trying to fuck someone or married someone from here. When I spoke of my own online hook ups. I didn't intend to get anything more out of it than a quick nut. Those that think this shit will last for years and years. I just don't see it happening. Hope you prove me wrong.

I doubt people at your work would know what you type here. You can talk about work and situations without naming names.

That logic about people that get it never talk about it. Yea. That's the normal cop out argument there. I like sex, I get plenty. I like to talk about it as well.

How is something you are physically manipulating not real. You have to type, log on to a mcahine. Those are all real things. The fact you can treat your interactions like they are a foggy dream online is MORE scary. The fact people do meet and fuck and get married from this place is also proof of how it mirrors reality. It's called Virtually Reality for a reason. Virtual because it's almost like offline shit; minus the physicality. Moron.

And let me get this straight -- you talked to Liam -- one sided. Do you think he would actually say if he had been arrested or even questioned on an incident like that?

I am not the one who needed to name names and make it personal. I started off by making a general post to all the readers; and made a comment about people who I think are not being given credit for being the people they are. And to express how I'd like to see more happy thoughts than gloom and doom; but apparently I am evil for doing so.

Looks like someone else got mad over it and feels like bitching. That of course is between all the hard work they are doing for their families. I can't wait until I have a family I can ignore too; just to post about a person online that I don't like but obvisouly feel the strong need to respond to time and time again. That's after the person said they wanted to be done with it. I can go back and forth forever too; Shall we?

When people form definitive opinions of me and others that I know don't deserve it; I dish it back. I pretty much have a don't fuck with me and I won't fuck with you mentality. I can play just as dirty despite that.

for 3rd time -- Good on you if you do work. What does it take to see that if it didnt' apply to you; then you shouldn't take it to heart. Christ on a stick.

....I'm also eating a Quarter Pounder with Fries and a coke.




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Lolol. What has happenned to my avatar?

Plague's been busy, I see.
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I can't wait until I have a family I can ignore too; just to post about a person online that I don't like but obvisouly feel the strong need to respond to time and time again.



Wait, so Deb and Ima ignore their families?
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I was talking about people that don't date at all outside this room and Yes are trying to fuck someone or married someone from here. When I spoke of my own online hook ups. I didn't intend to get anything more out of it than a quick nut. Those that think this shit will last for years and years. I just don't see it happening. Hope you prove me wrong.


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How is something you are physically manipulating not real. You have to type, log on to a mcahine. Those are all real things. The fact you can treat your interactions like they are a foggy dream online is MORE scary. The fact people do meet and fuck and get married from this place is also proof of how it mirrors reality.


Uhm. Hmmm. Giant contradiction there.

If McG and I met online, even though we have spent 3 years together in person, the way in which we met originally will some how diminish our chances of survival? But wait, how could it? Online time is justas real and valuable as in person... hmmm. Not following the contridictory lines of thinking, sorry. As well, you may want to tell deb who met Imma online, that you don't think they'll last.


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I doubt people at your work would know what you type here. You can talk about work and situations without naming names.


Let me be clear here for you. Regardless of my thoughts on whether or not it actually matters if I mention my work, I have to be very careful to not even associate myself with the company online. I personally would rather not accidentally say too much so I say close to nothing.

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Looks like someone else got mad over it and feels like bitching. That of course is between all the hard work they are doing for their families. I can't wait until I have a family I can ignore too; just to post about a person online that I don't like but obvisouly feel the strong need to respond to time and time again.


I'm not ignoring anything ma dear. I'm at work currently and I check this site when I need a mental break. I am alotted 1.5 hours a day for breaks and lunch, and I don't actually leave my desk to do either.

Again, just so you are clear and can have all the facts before spewing off.
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I said hope you prove me wrong if you are in a realtionship with someone here. AGAIN good luck. I just have my doubts and I can doubt anything I wish.

Going on and on about your sucess so far as it doesn't mean shit to me; but feel free to confess your love over and over. It's endearing.

I am not the one saying it's not Real -- that was Pest. I think the foundation of net realationships is different than a friendship. I see them as weaker; and that's my opinion. I will talk to Deb about it; as she and I can talk rationally without the bitterness and resentment; and maybe she can reveal some insight.

This is less about you Swords; but keep stirring the pot. That's what you are good at.

The fact that people can't handle me just saying we need to be nicer to each other; and then it turns into this. Only proves my point more and more.

I will refrain from saying more so I don't sink as low as some.

Your picture has been like that for awhile now as is Lea's. Yer twins.

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This is hilarious. Everything he's accusing us of, Deb has done or does.

I'm guessing Skull forgot Deb and Ima met online.

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I think he forgot to stuff his nose on time and is a bit sketchy at the moment.
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Going on and on about your sucess so far as it doesn't mean shit to me; but feel free to confess your love over and over. It's endearing.


Hallucinating text now? Where did I say anything about my sucess so far or where did I confess (I think you mean profess) my love over and over?

I was just trying to decipher your line of thinking (as it is contridicting itself) before I chose whether or not to enter into a debate with you... which you started by the way...

I suggest if you don't actually want responses then you type a nice little post and close the window before actually sending.
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Skull's line of reasoning would work better if you didn't have a job, and Deb and Ima didn't meet online.

But yer just bitter, yo.
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I will talk to Deb about it; as she and I can talk rationally without the bitterness and resentment; and maybe she can reveal some insight.


Deb... rational.... without resentment... reveal insight....

It's all a bit too much. It's like hearing GWB is deep, intellegent and humane.
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Ok - I know I shouldn't be bringing this argument back to the top, but y'know, I wasn't here and I wanted to post. So there.

Cygnus:

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1.) Swords supports a certain act when it is committed by Wes, but she does not support that same act when it is committed by Plague.

In this case, "the act" is defined as the breaking of a promise under certain circumstances which are common to both commissions of the act, i.e. the commission of the act by Wes, and the commission of the act by Plague both occurred in roughly analoguous circumstances.


2.) When Wes behaves a certain way toward Plague, Swords defends her behavior. But, when Plague behaves in that same way toward Wes, Swords criticizes his behavior.


You're kind of missing the point. I'll summarise for you because I'm nice like that.

- Korill takes Plague's picture, and says she won't put it on the boards.

- Korill puts Plague's picture on the boards, and justifies it by saying that firstly, she didn't actually promise and secondly, even if she did promise it wouldn't matter because the person she was promising to doesn't exist.

- Plague says repeatedly that a promise is a promise, and breaking it shows a lack of character and morality. He says it even applies to people you no longer like, or people you never liked. He says that Korill's reasoning is flawed, and she just broke the promise because she felt like it.

- Plague then (apparently*) bans people from chat. This is directly breaking a promise he made - doesn't matter who he made it to. This then contradicts EVERYTHING he has said on the subject of making promises and keeping one's word. Even if he decided that on reflection, if Wes can break promises on a whim then why can't he - he's then forfeited any right to argue about Wes breaking a promise because he's just done the same thing as she did. It's called hypocrisy. This is why people are amused by it.


* Disclaimer - I don't know if Plague has banned anyone from chat - this is just assuming that he has for the current scenario.


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I should take into account many think about fucking each other for real; which I think is fucked up. That includes the current marriages/dating couples we have to date; which obviously are. (In Room and here) I mean good luck and all; but what are the odds?


I really don't follow your reasoning. People who have met through the medium of the internet (chat rooms, messenger, email) are apparently 'fucked up'. However, you also maintain that chat rooms are as real as every day life - and two of your friends (Ima and Deb) are dating/fucking/whatever in real life.

So which is it? Is it fucked up because it's the internet, or is it just as real as every day life? Why is it better for a couple to meet in real life - in a pub when they're hammered? You said yourself you make emotional connections with people via this medium - but by saying that someone having a relationship with another person from chat is fucked up, you're essentially saying that making that kind of connection is not possible.

It kind of reminds me of Marsha calling us all incestuous, which is pretty hilarious. I mean, Korill and Euph are from different countries. And apparently that's incestuous. Seriously, does one of them have to be from Mars for it to be okay? Being part of the same internet forum doesn't make you brother and sister ffs.

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She's in the trenches more than a lot of you women who don't even talk of having a career or doing shit to support your families. (Total Respect to those that do)


Not everyone feels the need to cry and whine about how hard their lives are to total strangers on the internet. Many people like their personal lives to remain personal. I happen to know things have happened to Korill (for example) that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. She has had a rough time of it - but she doesn't need to go into chat and cry about it for sympathy. She pulls her socks up and gets on with her life. THAT is a strong person. You are one ignorant self-important cunt if you think that only people who have told you about shit that has happened to them have been through hard times. Newsflash - you don't know everything about everyone. And not everyone wants to confide in you.

Are you seriously assuming that because WOMEN on here don't talk about their careers online, they can't possibly have them and must just be staying at home all day, doing nothing to support their families? What, and men obviously have careers and support their families whether they talk about it or not? How incredibly sexist of you. And your little disclaimer on the end of "total respect to those that do" doesn't help you out of that one. You either mean what you said or you don't. Which is it?

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Most of this thread is immature as fuck; and yields no true insight.


Bugger off if you don't like it. Nobody's forcing you to read it.
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