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Why I hate people.
Topic Started: Jul 20 2008, 06:03 PM (5,687 Views)
Pestiferous
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If you're not interested in naming names, then I'm not interested in this little "But you made a rumour, I swear!" game.

As far as I'm concerned, it never happenned and you lack the proof to convince anyone that it did.

Try a little harder next time.
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Wouldn't they have to hang onto my every word for me to be as efficient with rumour-spreading as you claim?


Huh?

I don't know.

What does it matter?

Maybe they'd hang on your every word, or maybe they'd just happen to be there when you blabbed.

This question seems to be a non sequitur.
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If you're not interested in naming names, then I'm not interested in this little "But you made a rumour, I swear!" game.

As far as I'm concerned, it never happenned and you lack the proof to convince anyone that it did.

Try a little harder next time.



Ha!

That's the brilliance of my reasoning, dear Wessy.

Even without my naming names, you've all but admitted your guilt in the matter.

Without the slightest indication from me, you began discrediting Mori as my source.

Not only did this imply that you had reason to believe that my source was Mori -- and, the only reason that you'd have to believe this, without my having said it, would be that you'd, in fact, told her -- but your attempt to discredit Mori in this matter is shown to be highly implausible by the facts that,


a.) Your offer to discredit Mori, without any prompting from me, reveals that you do not challenge my account in the respect of someone having told me of the rumor. In other words, it reveals that you believe that someone told me of the rumor. Because, if you didn't believe that someone told me, then you wouldn't have moved on to trying to discredit the person whom you suspected of being my source.

b.) Mori would have had to be a mind-reader or a psychic to have learned the rumor without having been told it by either you or one of your gal-pals. And, your attempt to discredit her has, realistically, robbed you of the option of alleging that I have no source.

and, c.) If Mori were my source, she'd have had no motive, at that time, to lie and blame the rumor on you if she had been told it by one of your gal-pals. The incidents in question having occurred long before you and Mori fell out -- more than a year prior -- and, while you and Mori were still friends (as evidenced by your friendly convo with her that you posted, which occurred long after you allege her to have lied and blamed the rumor on you), it would have been a totally isolated attack on you, by Mori, for her to make up such a story about you spreading the rumor. Not very believable.

And, even if it were the case that Mori had been told the rumor by one of your gal-pals and then lied and blamed it on you instead, this would mean that one of your gal-pals knows that she (and not you) told Mori, and has yet to come to your defense. Though, it's an improbable scenario that Mori was told by one of your gal-pals and blamed it on you, anyway.


You've fallen right into a trap that I didn't even set!

I don't have to convince anyone of anything, darling Wessy.

You have convinced them yourself!


And, this is a lovely, little gem, here:

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As far as I'm concerned, it never happenned and you lack the proof to convince anyone that it did.


As far as you're concerned, ay? And, because I lack the proof, ay?

Oh, that's smooth, Wessy.

I can't prove it, so it didn't happen.

That sentence is dripping with your guilt.

You're really banking on a no-show from my source, aren't you?

Well, we shall see what the future holds....


:wink: <---I always liked this one the best. Still do.
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I suggest you familiarize yourself with Occam's razor, Cyg. The simplest answer is usually the correct answer - your little episode above is too far-fetched to be convincing anyone.

The rumour you accuse me of is false. You're hell-bent on protecting Mori, therefore if she was the one to say I was spreading such rumours, you would not give her name up. If I have poisoned my friends against you, as you claim, you would have no issue naming them.

No one has come forward claiming I've told them this rumour, therefore it is not true.

On a side-note, I'm a little familiar with the Plague-Ergo-Staci situation, and know that Staci wouldn't have anything to do with Plague, or Plague under a false name. I also know that Plague, given his penchant for burning bridges and anything else he can stretch his imagined justice to, would never consider trying to get Staci back.

Based on this, creating a rumour like the one you've mentioned wouldn't make any sense...however, to someone who doesn't know the Plague-Ergo-Staci situation, a rumour like that would seem plausible.

Perhaps, to a person like you - desperate to hang onto any reason to dislike me.
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a.) Your offer to discredit Mori, without any prompting from me, reveals that you do not challenge my account in the respect of someone having told me of the rumor. In other words, it reveals that you believe that someone told me of the rumor. Because, if you didn't believe that someone told me, then you wouldn't have moved on to trying to discredit the person whom you suspected of being my source.



Also, for what it's worth, I believed someone told you that rumour because YOU SAID someone did. It's not an admission of guilt, rather the belief that (Mori) would actually lie and say something like that to you...because she's been proven to lie about other posters, right on this thread.

Perhaps you're right - I moved too fast, and shouldn't believe anyone told you this in the first place.

My error. I should have known you were lying to begin with.
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I suggest you familiarize yourself with Occam's razor, Cyg. The simplest answer is usually the correct answer - your little episode above is too far-fetched to be convincing anyone.


My reason is not only the simplest answer, believe it or not, it's the only answer, given the facts which I know to be true.

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The rumour you accuse me of is false. You're hell-bent on protecting Mori, therefore if she was the one to say I was spreading such rumours, you would not give her name up. If I have poisoned my friends against you, as you claim, you would have no issue naming them.


I've been asked in no uncertain terms, by an upset party, to stop talking about Mori.
But, you keep bringing her up.

You say that you believed me when I said that someone told me that you'd told them the rumor. And, then you began trying to discredit Mori, whom you assumed to have been my source:

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I believed someone told you that rumour because YOU SAID someone did.


So, you believed that Mori could have told me of that rumor.

And, you believed that I wasn't making it up.

But, how would Mori have learned of the rumor, if not from you or one of your gal-pals?

There's no other realistic possibility, given the facts.

The only reason that you're still blabbing is that I haven't yet been able to prove it.

And, after my exhaustive explanation of how you slipped up and basically revealed that you did it, you realized your error and changed your position to accusing me of making the whole thing up:

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My error. I should have known you were lying to begin with.


Well, you're right in the sense that you should have accused me of lying from the beginning. As of now, there's no proof that any of what I said actually happened. There are four people, not including yourself, who could provide evidence that what I've said is true. Fortunately for you, three of them don't like me, and one of them wants nothing to do with any of this.

So, you're probably going to slip out of this one, technically.

But, you look really guilty here, Wessy.

Even here:

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No one has come forward claiming I've told them this rumour, therefore it is not true.


Again, you rely on the, as yet, unavailability of evidence as your absolution.

We'll see what happens.

In any case, I'm going to insist that you call me a liar from now on.

Because me being a liar, and having made this whole story up out of whole-cloth, is the only other possible explanation for it.

Either I made it all up -- the exchange with Staci, the insults from you, the rumor told back to me by a third party -- or, it's all true. There really is no third option.
Because if someone did tell me of the rumor, and it were to become evident that the rumor had existed independently of that person who named you as their source, then that would be a pretty strong case against you. And, your only defense would be to accuse one of the other three people of having spread the rumor, instead of you, to my source.
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In any case, Wessy, there are still the incidents of: your betrayal of Plague's trust in posting his pic; your recent incitement of Swords in accusing me of having tried to curry favor with her in some way; and your numerous liberties with the truth to be found in the pages of this forum; which I've pointed out as they have occurred.

I will admit that the Staci-rumor incident was the one that first clued me in to how you operate, but those others are more than sufficient cause for me to regard with immediate suspicion any accusations made by you about other people.

And, hence, the rationale for my original comments that began this dramatic episode.
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Dramatic in who's mind?
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Why, Alfred E. Neumann's, of course.
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Lol, Estelle. Indeed.

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Well, you're right in the sense that you should have accused me of lying from the beginning. As of now, there's no proof that any of what I said actually happened. There are four people, not including yourself, who could provide evidence that what I've said is true. Fortunately for you, three of them don't like me, and one of them wants nothing to do with any of this.




You mean fortunately for you. Here you are again, wild accusations in hand, but nothing to back them up.

Your lack of popularity in this should be telling you something, Cygnus...instead of reflecting on your douchebag activities of the last year, you've fabricated some sort of rumour as an explanation regarding your perceived disfavour amongst people here.


Yup, I posted Plague's picture - and you're right, that just may be the highlight of my activities here. You can rant on and on about how unjust it was, but in reality you're just pissy and annoyed that I wasn't nailed to a cross for it. Instead of getting a clue and realizing no one fucking cares, you're starting to actually believe it's your social retardation causing the lack of villagers chasing me with pitchforks...and now you've invented reasons, instead of realizing your posts are the source of your ostracization.

It's not me, it's you.
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This thread is a downer, and I hate that it was made. To its author I say this.

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Shut up asshole :)
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Your lack of popularity in this should be telling you something, Cygnus...instead of reflecting on your douchebag activities of the last year, you've fabricated some sort of rumour as an explanation regarding your perceived disfavour amongst people here.


Wait, previously you said that I'd fabricated the whole story to satisfy my need to dislike you.

You have now alleged a different motive for me -- that I have fabricated the whole story in order to explain my "perceived disfavor" amongst certain people.

Are there really still people who take that rumor seriously enough to dislike me because of it? Are there really still people who believe that I was trying to steal Staci away from Ergo, or whatever it was?

Let us ask around, Wessy.

Hey - does anyone here still believe that rumor, and dislike me because of it?

Anyone here still think that I was trying to steal Staci away from Ergo? Or, that I was/am Plague, or whatever else was supposed to have been my motive?

Be honest, folks...trust me, it won't hurt my feelings.



Wes, if the story of the rumor is a fabrication, as you allege, then no one here could possibly dislike me because of it, because it would never have happened.

Being that I am aware of this, don't you now need to come up with another motive for me to have fabricated the whole story?
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:lol:

'Occam's razor' would lead in this instance to only one tersely phrased maxim, < Pestephemia is a forum troll. >

She has even tragically styled her online identity after her experiences in the old P&A boards.

Dictionary definition obtusity:

'Pestiferous' -

1. Producing or breeding infectious disease.
b. Infected with or contaminated by an epidemic disease.
2. Morally evil or deadly; pernicious.
3. Bothersome; annoying.


And for our many readers: Cygnus consistently employs a minimum standard of evidence and argumentation in a discussion, achieving a level of excellence far beyond the reach of his inferior opponent. In fact, Pestephemia's guiding principle - 'the troglodytic imperative' - is structurally limited to achieve only the bare minimum, if not invariably a verisimilude thereof.

Even in the odd chance that her vitriol does manage to cover a grey area of veracity, it would have been subsumed into the troglodytic imperative, thereby rendering it void in actual bearing. It would invariable act towards the pursuit of a malevolent purpose.

The troglodytic imperative is comprised out of a mixture of psychological impairments and a complementary ideological framework allowing for the pathology to manifest itself in a disciplined and structural manner.

We should really bring a forensic psychologist into the fray in order to determine the threat level that this individual poses to the P&A community.
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Hey let's try something better:

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Hey - does anyone here still believe that rumor, and dislike me because of it?

Anyone here still think that I was trying to steal Staci away from Ergo? Or, that I was/am Plague, or whatever else was supposed to have been my motive?

Be honest, folks...trust me, it won't hurt my feelings.



Has anyone here actually heard this rumour? That Cygnus was Plague trying to steal away Staci from Ergo, and that I was the one saying this?

Cygnus could easily put this to rest and simply name the person who said this to him...but they don't exist, so he can't...

So, yeah! Who did I tell this rumour to?

We're dying to know.
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Well. I DO think Cyg is plague and I do remember him freaking out staci a while back to the point that she thought he was insulting her? (I don't really recall it all)

Anyhow. I've said random things in the chatroom for the sheer pleasure of watching the various reactions. There are ALWAYS the drama whores who take every word I type seriously... and so I watch the ripples it causes, and I LAUGH.

I could very well have said "Hey everyone, Cyg is really plague and he is SO obviously trying to steal staci by causing trouble between she and ergo... oh and btw wes told me this." Now the little drama whores who love to feed on that shit would spread it as if it were nothing but true. I on the other hand would only have said as much for my own satisfaction and enjoyment and then washed it from my memory.

Cyg, who the fuck cares what anyone says about you? Huh? This is exactly the same thing as when you compliment me--I don't fucking care. Form your own opinion about yourself and then save your energy and don't waste it on getting overly excited (good or bad) about other people's opinions of you (good or bad).

And Wes, who cares what he thinks you said? Don't let him bait and hook you. He's a fucking troll with his own hidden agenda, and if that isn't plainly obvious by now, I really can't help.
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Has anyone here actually heard this rumour? That Cygnus was Plague trying to steal away Staci from Ergo, and that I was the one saying this?


The only place I've seen this rumor is here.

Given that I've seen pictures of both Cyg and Plague (or at least pictures represented as being those two), I can say that Cyg is not Plague.

and - Wes is right. No one really cares.

Cyg, you contend that Wes twists reality to suit her own end. Why in the world are you still trying to engage her? It borders on insanity.

It's like you're trying to put a square peg into a circle. You've not the tools to hone it, leave it be.

Thank God for Haters. Else I'd have no drama in my life.
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i never heard the rumour.... not even anything close to that.





and Mock.... you've used troglodytic at least 20 times in the last week.

i'm disappointed in you.
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