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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 25 2008, 09:36 AM (1,512 Views) | |
| stevapalooza | Jan 3 2009, 12:23 AM Post #41 |
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Looks like Wes and Euph just got a new role playing scenario. |
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| Xx_SwordWords_xX | Jan 3 2009, 06:05 AM Post #42 |
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What are you talking about, "new"? Koril has been known as "rape-man" for ages in our close circle..... |
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| Mock | Jan 3 2009, 09:34 AM Post #43 |
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You know, I actually believe you on this one. But does she have the cowl, to go with her power-mechanized 'full 360 degrees motion' anal-bead strap-on? (There's always a strap-on.)![]()
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| Mock | Jan 3 2009, 04:34 PM Post #44 |
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This one is priceless: [dohtml]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/vdKU12Z_po4&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/vdKU12Z_po4&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/dohtml] |
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| Morguemisericordia | Jan 3 2009, 11:32 PM Post #45 |
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If ever a woman needed gang-raped... |
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| Pestiferous | Jan 5 2009, 02:06 AM Post #46 |
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Yeah, that must be it. It's all a conspiracy. Signed, Rape Man |
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| Mock | Jan 5 2009, 08:15 AM Post #47 |
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Sure, ignore the rest.
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| Evil_Henry | Jan 5 2009, 01:48 PM Post #48 |
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In Vino Veritas
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I can't be the only one who thinks Rape Man sounds like an entertaining popcorn film? Not sure about actually buying it though. I'll wait until it comes onto BBC 1. |
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| Pestiferous | Jan 5 2009, 03:35 PM Post #49 |
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There's nothing to ignore, Mock - the very simple and obvious facts have already been outlined to you: Fact: Rapes in Japan are no more underreported than they are in Canada, or the US where this type of pornography has higher restrictions. Fact: As Japan's population grows, rapes are decreasing. Fact: As this type of pornography and fantasy anime becomes more readily available and mainstream, rapes are decreasing. Fact: According to this link, a woman is far more likely to be raped in 53 other countries than Japan - including Canada, USA, Australia, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Germany and Iceland. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_...apes-per-capita All you have is a proposed hypothesis based on some fucked-up notion you have that sexual awareness and sexual propaganda turns people into criminals. |
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| esttelle | Jan 5 2009, 04:17 PM Post #50 |
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I don't know.... This whole thing, sort of weirds me out. Like that video that Mock posted of the man swinging the baby. I watched it, having seen some of the same sort of thing before in reality, I assumed it was real and I was interested. I remember, a gymnastics coach, doing somewhat of the same thing, with his own child. That child was not harmed, and has no fear now at more than likely 30 or 40 some years of age. Trapeze artists...when do you think they start? One month, one year? They have to start somewhere.... But now, the man that posted that video is under arrest. If I had downloaded it? Would I be under suspition of child abuse also? I post, asking a question about hangover cures, and I'm the drunk? I sort of have to chuckle at that. I do tend to exagerate, online, and many times in the past, when I was signing off line, was presumed to have been ready to commit suidcide. I was signing offline, for god's sake, nothing more serious than that. So now, I watch a video called 'rape man'... It's on my computer. I must be a rapist. 1941, here we come.... |
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| Mock | Jan 5 2009, 06:27 PM Post #51 |
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There was no definitive relationship established in the paper - instead the author discovered a 'temporal correlation'. It's a meaningless term, which only manages to establish that two statistical trends are running parallel to one and other in a given time period. Also, you can't compare non-existent data between two uniquely different cultures, neither can you predict the sociocultural ramifications of the introduction of this type of pornographic material to North-America. Reprisal:
Back to the core:
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| Mock | Jan 5 2009, 06:40 PM Post #52 |
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Even Evil_Henry shied away from downloading it. Esttelle, I salute you.
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| Pestiferous | Jan 5 2009, 07:24 PM Post #53 |
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You're talking in circles - you maintain that this will lead to a tolerance of sexual relationships between adults and children, because it will "groom" children, yet you're claiming it doesn't create paedophiles? Just...paedophiliac behaviour? You're not making sense, it's like you're blustering "But, but, but!" because you feel this type of porn HAS to be bad...despite any proof that it actually is. And yes, you can claim it's a mere correlation between decreased rapes and increased pornography, but we both know that had rapes in Japan increased with this type of anime becoming more available, you'd be squealing it was the cause. So don't even bother me with that type of bullshit.
Oh, but you're allowed to predict what will happen in Japan? Interesting. I thought the whole entire purpose of this debate was to predict either rammifications, or lack thereof, regarding the allowance of this type of anime in society. |
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| Evil_Henry | Jan 5 2009, 09:08 PM Post #54 |
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In Vino Veritas
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The war did not start in 1941!!!!!
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| stevapalooza | Jan 5 2009, 09:39 PM Post #55 |
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Yeah. Indiana Jones was already like retired by then. |
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| esttelle | Jan 5 2009, 10:16 PM Post #56 |
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Lol ! I must be drunk. 1984 ! That's what I was thinking of. I wonder where that other year come from? |
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| Mock | Jan 6 2009, 02:57 PM Post #57 |
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Irony would have it that generic rapists aren't the central issue here, and as such, the question would arise why on earth you would have this incessant need to cackle like a toothless crone on tangential subject material? Perhaps it would be more digestible if I were to present my arguments with a modest amount of dental torture? You know, to keep you focused. Food for thought: - National age of consent in Japan is 13, debarring local provisions, which tend to raise the age of consent to within a range of 14 - 17. - Enjo Kosai is a Japanese social practice. Definition: "The most common connotation is that it is a form of child prostitution whereby participating girls sell their bodies in exchange for designer goods or money." - Rape & child abuse are already underreported in Japan. - "Moreover, as of 1998, Japan was the source of 80 percent of the commercial child pornography available on the Internet[8]. Actually, it was not until 1999 that Japan joined the international community in banning child pornography, not out of moral concern, but more so because of the bad publicity the country was receiving[6]." - Source: same wikipedia article. Note: not strictly animated child pornography.
What allowances I've made were for the professional opinions of qualified individuals, research analysts, news reporters citing expert opinion, etc. These professionals wouldn't glibly ignore the strident cultural disparities between two countries. Or make unfounded statements regarding comparative estimates of unreported data. Both estimates are already subject of intense debate and discussion within their respective countries. |
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| Pestiferous | Jan 6 2009, 04:22 PM Post #58 |
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Oh, how selective you are! From your very own cited article:
Wait - what does that say? WOMEN DO IT TOO???? And it's a common misconception that it always involves some form of sexual activity?
It's underreported everywhere. Don't you get that? And despite being underreported, Japan's numbers aren't higher than anyone else's - in fact, they are pretty average. Underreporting taken into account and everything. Oh, and they're dropping.
You do realize that these people find opinions to suit their story, right? News reporters are infamous for finding "experts" to back a story - look at Nancy Grace, as an example. I prefer hard facts - numbers, statistics. Opinions...just don't do it for me. |
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| Mock | Jan 7 2009, 07:03 AM Post #59 |
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| esttelle | Jan 7 2009, 03:26 PM Post #60 |
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Just playing devil's advocate here, okay? Forget about statistics. As far as the topic goes, live and let live. It's a comic. Somebody drew it, from images in their mind. You have to wonder though, where did these images come from? Call me a racist, but I think Japanese people, that have been raised in the culture? They are WEIRD ! The men, it appears they love little girls, and their comics reflect this. From what I've read online, and in novels over the years...? Even their grown women know this, and the marraige and birth rates for their country reflect it. |
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