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| Canuckstan, Alone On The World; What Ethnicities Would You Choose? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 21 2009, 06:14 PM (1,079 Views) | |
| Mock | Feb 21 2009, 06:14 PM Post #1 |
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I suppose one must allow for minor mishaps, in the much larger nation-wide PC-indoctrination program. I wonder how many non-Western cultures would even bother with this type of Soviet-style social engineering. ![]() 'What if' conversation between politically correct Armenian school teacher and young Armenian student: "But they want to wipe us out, Miss!" "They? THEY!?!?! How dare you differentiate between cultures young man!" "But... bu..." *RA-TAT-TAT-TAT-*splat*TAT-TAT-*splat, splat*TAT-TAT-BOOM-*splat**splat-TAT-TAT*splat* Turkish soldier: "One classroom less to march to Deir ez-Zor."
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| Evil_Henry | Feb 23 2009, 01:31 PM Post #2 |
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I love this - and have to admit the responses would be interesting. "Ok, we can remove the aborigine from the equation right away as they aren't technically people."
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| Pestiferous | Feb 23 2009, 03:16 PM Post #3 |
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I don't see the problem with this excercise. All I see is parents taking it considerably out of context. |
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| ErgonomicLogic | Feb 23 2009, 03:33 PM Post #4 |
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Obviously I'd choose white people from the Western world as we would need people capable of inventing and building things beyond 8th century technology. I'd also throw in a Coolie to pull my rickshaw to my house to be with my Hispanic concubine and to take me back to the science lab to oversee human progress. |
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| Evil_Henry | Feb 23 2009, 03:37 PM Post #5 |
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I suppose as long as the teacher doesn't mark the answers. If the focus is to show how a person should be judged on their individual merit, rather than a supposed ethnic history, it's a nice point perhaps. That doesn't appear to be the case from this article - which begs the question - what is the lesson they are trying to teach? |
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| Evil_Henry | Feb 23 2009, 03:49 PM Post #6 |
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It doesn't mention gender or appearance either. So many variables to consider. Chinese Girl: ![]() English Man:
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| Pestiferous | Feb 23 2009, 04:02 PM Post #7 |
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I did this exercise in school, in our cultural learning class. The point of it was to get us to ask questions about the individuals - who was a doctor, who was a teacher, who would you need to survive. We also learned a lot about each culture, considering some cultures we were given to choose from we didn't even know about. It also helped some kids who readily chose which culture they thought should survive, and gave the teacher a chance to highlight the ignorance of those kids, and teach them tolerance they may not learn at home. It also gave us a chance to discuss sterotypes and generalizations, and learn stereotypes that people might have of us - and how it feels to be thought of that way. It's a valuable exercise. The mother of the ethiopian kids is really just looking for attention. |
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| stevapalooza | Feb 23 2009, 04:15 PM Post #8 |
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Hard to believe it's the same species. |
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| Evil_Henry | Feb 23 2009, 04:34 PM Post #9 |
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Yeah, I think that's how it should be done. Seems like a decent exercise but very much open to the personal leanings of the teacher.
Hmm. That sounds an awful lot like, "Children would refuse to take part in the exercise seeing it as some kind of Nazi trial by race whereas others would simply 'pick what they know'. <_< |
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| ConfusedMonkey | Feb 24 2009, 09:25 AM Post #10 |
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We did something similar, although it wasn't a space ship it was a hot air balloon. Which is why it was called the Balloon Debate. The idea is the balloon is going down so you have to throw one person out so the rest of you can survive. It wasn't done on race or culture though. The teacher gets five or six of you and gives each of you a character - for arguments sake they can be Einstein, Shakespeare, Florence Nightingale, Darwin, Churchill and Mother Teresa. So you have to prepare a speech on why you deserve to be saved, and deliver it to the class... and then at the end you all have a big debate on who can be chucked out of the balloon. So you learn more about the people that you might not know other than the obvious... it improves your public speaking and encourages discussion. It was pretty good fun. I have to say though, doing it with culture instead is a good idea, and no more barbaric than deciding to chuck an old woman out of the balloon because you think she's the most useless.
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| Evil_Henry | Feb 24 2009, 10:33 AM Post #11 |
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I still think that there is going to be a broad consensus and the teacher will probably gravitate to one set of the ideas, even if they appear largely impartial. A teacher may be a little bemused at your desire to eject "Fat Man Churchill" from the balloon but is unlikely to be too unhappy. Discarding the African race may have a different impact entirely. You can isolate an individual and their qualities but you can't judge a person by their race... this test almost suggests that you can. I think the two tests are sufficiently different, although I appreciate that they are both thought provoking. |
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| Xx_SwordWords_xX | Feb 24 2009, 12:12 PM Post #12 |
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Your whole education is a bunch of ideas from a bunch of fucked up teachers. Get over it. |
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| Evil_Henry | Feb 24 2009, 01:46 PM Post #13 |
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You mean that you are an advertisement for the Canadian education system? |
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| Pestiferous | Feb 24 2009, 03:22 PM Post #14 |
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Huh? This tests actually shows students that they cannot judge a person by their race. That's the whole point of it. And it's not even a test, it's a project. A discussion-provoking project. |
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| Evil_Henry | Feb 24 2009, 03:48 PM Post #15 |
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It depends on what information the students are given, like I said. The article conveniently misses that out which is probably due to bias and a desire to cause shock in its readers. You said that your project when you were a child contained details such as qualifications I think, "teacher" "surgeon" etc. This kind of test could be constructed to show that race is absolutely irrelevant and I imagine this is its purpose. If, however, the question is limited to a picture and a description of their ethnic background / culture (i.e. non-personalised) this is a different question entirely. It's not clear from the article but I would suggest that it's entirely harmless (version 1) but depicted as ambiguous (version 2) to provoke readers. It got Mock to post so it clearly works, not that it requires more than a small nudge of course. |
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| esttelle | Feb 25 2009, 02:08 PM Post #16 |
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Interesting...., the comments section after the article. How most people just assume, how it's going to go. Guess that proves it's worth it, in a way, eh? |
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| Mock | Feb 25 2009, 04:08 PM Post #17 |
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It's a clear case of Soviet-style social engineering (in overdrive) and a rather grim portrayal of the reality of certain educational practices in the Canuckstanian public schooling system. Naming and shaming small children for their so-described 'racist' views? This reminds me of a certain practice employed in the Madhouse of Europe, [size0]otherwise known as the UK. It turns children into little intolerant Gestapo toddlers. .........(Clearly I'm making a ludicrous point, as it's common knowledge that all children are wild, amoral animals, but don't let that get in the way of whatever nonsense you were about to spew.)......... ![]()
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| Evil_Henry | Feb 25 2009, 05:04 PM Post #18 |
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Generalising based on race is wrong, don't you think? If so, it is within the mandate of education to pursue this at a young age. Either each race is to be treated equally or it isn't. |
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| Pestiferous | Feb 25 2009, 09:02 PM Post #19 |
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So, anytime a teacher corrects a student they are naming and shaming them? Do you ever get tired of being so fucking melodramatic? Kids go to school to learn. Correction of preconceived notions is part of that. |
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| Mock | Feb 26 2009, 02:51 PM Post #20 |
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The problem is that it doesn't just end with instilling a proper sense of inter-racial sensibility, it becomes a fundamental keystone for the subsequent 'white guilt' indoctrination, as orchestrated by the Leftist Church Of Multiculturalism. Those that hold factually sound 'aberrant' views (center right wing) are typically victimized by their peers and classified as racist. This intolerance is structurally sanctioned, endorsed and encouraged by the (overwhelmingly leftist) education system as a whole. They should have called this 'project' - "Sniffing out the racist for a proper lynching." I would imagine, that given the few cogent thoughts that these children are able to produce, these will not be wasted on matters of racial differentiation or equality, without external inducement. |
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