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Azula Quest; A princess is you?
Topic Started: Feb 7 2013, 10:23 PM (38,722 Views)
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I suppose that this would be the best place to pick this up from.

Definitely going to have to re-create or gather together all of the previous posts, of course.

Story Alone, right from post numero uno.

Azula.

15 years old.

Fourth month, ninth day, of year 100 ASC

Master Firebender [23/6]
-"Butterfly Wings" Fire-flight [3/???]
-"Rocket Boost" Advanced flame propulsion [1/???]
-"Dragon's Breath" burning exhalation [3/???]
-"Advanced Fire Stream" focused fire spout [2/???]
--"Hunting Dragon" Flame Spout Seeking Missile [1/???]
-"Flame Wall" basically that. [1/???]
-"Pinwheel Shot" distance projectile [1/???]
-"Butterfly Swarm" razor-fire butterflies [1/???]
-"Lava Bending" Fortress Killer [1/X]
-"Inner Fire Reinforcement" Self-buff [2/???]
-"Edge Enhance" Sword-buff Flames [1/???]
-"Voice of Command?" ...not what it says on the tin? [1/1?]
Air Bender [4/?]
-"Cold Sky Fire" Lighting manipulation. [4/???]
--"???" Force Lightning Taser? [1/???]
--"???" Electro-Net. [1/???]
Advanced Etiquette [2/2?]
Spiritualism [3/3?]
Leadership [6/???]
Politics [6/???]
"Agressive Self Defense" [3/???]
-Unpleasant Surprises [2/?]
Strategy [4/???]
Logistics [2/???]
Second Child Arts [1/???]
Somewhat Cultured [4/???]
Basic Trading Knowledge [2/???]

Creepy child.
Praise the Sun.
Fire Good.
... Jealous. So jealous.
Once burned, twice....?
Tea-sipper.
Ruby Butterfly.
Divine Right of Kings?
Cap'n Jin.
Toph Customer, or some other pun.
Old Man of the Mountain: Not Your Buddy.
Lotus Initiate.
Raijin Approves. Fuujin... not so much.
Edited by Chibi-Reaper, Feb 9 2013, 06:48 PM.
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probably because she still has pride as an earthbender?
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Feb 9 2013, 03:56 PM
I'm thinking we might be able to use oxygen to help feed our flames though. Fire and air in tandem, working together to fuel hotter flames. Best of all, if this works it will become an arrangement that Yosei may even enjoy. Might make her dislike Air less.
Seems symbolically appropriate. We've visited ironworks I think, so we should be aware of using bellows to pump air into furnaces to make them burn hotter/

On the subject of enhancing our fire, there was the intense white flame we once produced as an infant that we may want to look into.
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I'm thinking we might be able to use oxygen to help feed our flames though. Fire and air in tandem, working together to fuel hotter flames. Best of all, if this works it will become an arrangement that Yosei may even enjoy. Might make her dislike Air less.
Seems symbolically appropriate. We've visited ironworks I think, so we should be aware of using bellows to pump air into furnaces to make them burn hotter/

On the subject of enhancing our fire, there was the intense white flame we once produced as an infant that we may want to look into.
Actually, it was a blue-white flame, i.e. our regular fire. Give me a minute and I'll look through the story thread and find it.

Edit: Here:

'Once, for just a moment, the fire that flashes outward is an intense and searing bluish white.... no matter how you try, you have not yet been able to replicate this.'

And then the year after:

'By the end of the year, your fires burn blue, and unusual and unique twist to the fires, leaving respect sent your way from all corners.'

Hmm... actually, reading these the first flame might have been unusually powerful. Have to ask Chibi to be certain.
Edited by NSMS, Feb 9 2013, 04:07 PM.
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I'm thinking we might be able to use oxygen to help feed our flames though. Fire and air in tandem, working together to fuel hotter flames. Best of all, if this works it will become an arrangement that Yosei may even enjoy. Might make her dislike Air less.
Seems symbolically appropriate. We've visited ironworks I think, so we should be aware of using bellows to pump air into furnaces to make them burn hotter/

On the subject of enhancing our fire, there was the intense white flame we once produced as an infant that we may want to look into.
Good excuse.

Pretty sure we produced a spurt of BLUE flame when we were a tyke, and we've since mastered that.

EDIT: Ninja'd
Edited by Hymn of Ragnarok, Feb 9 2013, 04:05 PM.
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Instead of powering the fire, we could use air to be better at flying too, you know?
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Feb 9 2013, 04:05 PM
Instead of powering the fire, we could use air to be better at flying too, you know?
That as well, that as well. Dodge whore, here we come!

We gotta work on integrating the styles first though. Start with the low handing fruit of Lightning, then perhaps experiment with Air. I suspect that it will be slow going though, without a teacher in Air. Unless some spirits are serious pulling for us with bursts of inspiration. Which, hey, maybe Raijin is.
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Though all this stuff is probably gonna be more useful, I'm far more excited by trying the stuff in the windsword scroll with lightning, because it would be a real lightsaber.

God, I hope I'll have the willpower to vote for something useful.
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Feb 9 2013, 04:13 PM
Though all this stuff is probably gonna be more useful, I'm far more excited by trying the stuff in the windsword scroll with lightning, because it would be a real lightsaber.
If we took up swordmanship, perhaps. As it is, Azula has no reason to go that way.
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Air or lightning swords are nice and all, but we can already make daggers of blue flame. There is no real need to overlap skill sets like that until we have already knocked out the things that complement our style.
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Do not deal with spirits...

I wonder, what Sages have to say now? And what Azula have to say to them now?
The reply to them would be: When someone of Agni's caliber comes calling, you try telling them no.
You know, I just realized that the sages totally lied to us. We could have totally tried asking Agni for a visit if Raijin is up there with Agni's tier
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Do not deal with spirits...

I wonder, what Sages have to say now? And what Azula have to say to them now?
The reply to them would be: When someone of Agni's caliber comes calling, you try telling them no.
You know, I just realized that the sages totally lied to us. We could have totally tried asking Agni for a visit if Raijin is up there with Agni's tier
Individual spirits might not be the same. I suspect that the spirit of the sun is going to be a bit hotter than Raijin. That said, it's possible that Agni in a good mood might be willing to dial down the heat instead of boiling us.
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think its more that looking into the sun is bad compared to a storm
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And so things happened. Why does everything cool happen when I'm asleep. :(
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Do not deal with spirits...

I wonder, what Sages have to say now? And what Azula have to say to them now?
The reply to them would be: When someone of Agni's caliber comes calling, you try telling them no.
You know, I just realized that the sages totally lied to us. We could have totally tried asking Agni for a visit if Raijin is up there with Agni's tier
...we just went through a mountain of rain and lightning strikes, and barely survived due to Yosei.

We are totally going to end up like this painting if we see Agni.

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Feb 9 2013, 12:51 PM
Do not deal with spirits...

I wonder, what Sages have to say now? And what Azula have to say to them now?
Azula's only new deal is with Yosei. And that one is supposed to be kept secret from the Fire Sages.

We did not make an actual deal with Raijin. He just 'tested' us and gave us his 'blessing'. We did not 'agree' to anything and he didn't ask for anything in return.

Besides, the Fire Sages hate us anyway.


Zuko, on the other hand seem to have come to some form of agreement with the giant scorpion spider he had been fighting. That might lead to the Fire Sages refusing to train him as well.

BUT! Now there's a solution: Now that Ozai has hit Raijin with lightning with to no effect, he will hopefully finally start believing in spirits.
That means that he will recognize that the Sage training isn't useless and - as the fricking Fire Lord - will order the Fire Sages to teach us and Zuko, if we just ask him nicely!
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Feb 9 2013, 04:44 PM
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Do not deal with spirits...

I wonder, what Sages have to say now? And what Azula have to say to them now?
The reply to them would be: When someone of Agni's caliber comes calling, you try telling them no.
You know, I just realized that the sages totally lied to us. We could have totally tried asking Agni for a visit if Raijin is up there with Agni's tier
...we just went through a mountain of rain and lightning strikes, and barely survived due to Yosei.

We are totally going to end up like this painting if we see Agni.

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But that was just in the spirit world and during a test. We were just fine when he popped out of the spirit realm and held us point blank.
Edited by Solaris, Feb 9 2013, 04:56 PM.
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This fire sage stuff reminds me, will we have to somehow install lightning sages or something like that or does Raijin simply not care?
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Feb 9 2013, 04:56 PM
This fire sage stuff reminds me, will we have to somehow install lightning sages or something like that or does Raijin simply not care?
He didn't say anything, and the fire sages seem to be there to support the fire nation and protect it from spirits, not because of Agni's influence or attempts to worship/appease him. I'd guess no.
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Feb 9 2013, 04:58 PM
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This fire sage stuff reminds me, will we have to somehow install lightning sages or something like that or does Raijin simply not care?
He didn't say anything, and the fire sages seem to be there to support the fire nation and protect it from spirits, not because of Agni's influence or attempts to worship/appease him. I'd guess no.
And now that I think about it, they did send a Fire Sage to take care of the places we conquered, so they shouldn't have a problem dealing with the spiritual needs of our airbending children either.
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Feb 9 2013, 04:05 PM
Good excuse.

Pretty sure we produced a spurt of BLUE flame when we were a tyke, and we've since mastered that.

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NSMS
Feb 9 2013, 04:05 PM
Actually, it was a blue-white flame, i.e. our regular fire. Give me a minute and I'll look through the story thread and find it.

Edit: Here:

'Once, for just a moment, the fire that flashes outward is an intense and searing bluish white.... no matter how you try, you have not yet been able to replicate this.'

And then the year after:

'By the end of the year, your fires burn blue, and unusual and unique twist to the fires, leaving respect sent your way from all corners.'

Hmm... actually, reading these the first flame might have been unusually powerful. Have to ask Chibi to be certain.


That quote is why I believe there's something more we can create with regards to our flame. Intense and searing bluish white is different to simply burning blue. Different colour at least.

It seems like something that would be worth a try.
Edited by Alratan, Feb 9 2013, 05:07 PM.
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we could use Raijin's appearance to put iroh incharge of the fire sages, citeing there inability to defend the palace from spirits, nothing they could have done realy but its a good excuse
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Feb 9 2013, 03:01 AM
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Feb 9 2013, 03:00 AM
I'll say this.

Lightning's going to be reasonably faster and less draining for you, for no readily apparent reason.
Time to form... wings of fire and lightning!
To this I say: FUCK YEAH! :D
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Fire and Lightning are at our command. To qoute Jaya Ballard "Of course you should fight fire with fire. You should fight everything with fire." Of course, she's from MTG, so Fire and Lightning are closely aligned there.
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Now Azula's an airbender who can 'bend' lightning! And she sure likes to use it a lot.

And indeed, it's classified under airbending:
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-"Cold Sky Fire" Lighting manipulation. [4/???]


Do you know what that means? Take a look here:
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Could Aang bend lightning via airbending, and would it draw lightning into the air domain more?
Aang the Monk? He might be capable of it, but probably wouldn't, because the technique pretty much starts at 'instantly lethal' and you have to put a whole lot of effort and, usually, dead things in to working it down from that, if you aren't happy with killing people.

So he probably wouldn't even make an attempt, no matter what you held over him. But if he did, it would probably help contesting things, and slow its progression over to firebending a lot, at least.

(Taken from here.)


So, soon Ozai's, Iroh's and Zuko's lightning skills will at least stagnate.

But they might heavily restricted it's use anyway, seeing as they most likely don't want Raijin to kidnap them, as well.
So it's probably not that huge a loss, but Ozai will hardy be happy with that.
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With airbending and firebending, we could really take the concept of "Firestorm" to the next level. Fire, lightning and winds that feed it all into a massive inferno.

In regards to lightning moving away from the gray zone back into Wind. Chibi said it would take centuries, just like how it would take that long for it to move into Fire. Ozai wont be alive at the point where he couldn't use it anymore and by then, the Fire Nation will have plenty of its own airbenders.
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Just realized... We have airbending now! That 24/7 fire shield just got a bit more viable.

[X] Ask Zuko about what happened.
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You know, we probably will never earn Fujin's favor. But like all spirits, he may choose to 'forget' our line's transgressions against him if his monks are rebuilt. Aang clearly needs to restart the airbenders. If he sides with Fire Nation, we can support him in this endeavor. But instead of only pacifist monks, we offer the other side of the coin. The more violent aspects, through our line and those who seek us out.

Raijin though....we're pretty much his number one bender here. As such, he's probably going to have his eye on us a lot. I wonder if we can earn even more favor through new, creative uses of Lightning? Have him pulling strings for us out of sight because he REALLY wants us to pass his favor down the generations, along with our teachings.
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Feb 9 2013, 05:24 PM
You know, we probably will never earn Fujin's favor. But like all spirits, he may choose to 'forget' our line's transgressions against him if his monks are rebuilt. Aang clearly needs to restart the airbenders. If he sides with Fire Nation, we can support him in this endeavor. But instead of only pacifist monks, we offer the other side of the coin. The more violent aspects, through our line and those who seek us out.

Raijin though....we're pretty much his number one bender here. As such, he's probably going to have his eye on us a lot. I wonder if we can earn even more favor through new, creative uses of Lightning? Have him pulling strings for us out of sight because he REALLY wants us to pass his favor down the generations, along with our teachings.
The Raijin thing sounds entirely possible to me. Didn't Chibi mention that the lightning nerves thing would be something he'd brag about to Fuujin?

Actually... if we take that far enough and work up enough creative uses for lightning, do you think Fuujin might offer us his blessing so we can do the same for wind, just to shut his brother up?
Edited by NSMS, Feb 9 2013, 05:30 PM.
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No, cause that's not how spirits work, appease or be hated forever.
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Feb 9 2013, 05:28 PM
The Raijin thing sounds entirely possible to me. Didn't Chibi mention that the lightning nerves thing would be something he'd brag about to Fuujin?

Actually... if we take that far enough and work up enough creative uses for lightning, do you think Fuujin might offer us his blessing so we can do the same for wind, just to shut his brother up?
He did.

And no. Fuujin is not going to give us his blessing until he himself is appeased. Which would probably be enormously difficult.
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Feb 9 2013, 05:32 PM
No, cause that's not how spirits work, appease or be hated forever.
I thought having a short attention span and terrible memory was one of the main spirit traits?
Hence the whole "I will remember you" thing from old man mountain being such a big deal.
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No, cause that's not how spirits work, appease or be hated forever.
I thought having a short attention span and terrible memory was one of the main spirit traits?
Hence the whole "I will remember you" thing from old man mountain being such a big deal.
That was just the fairy, who forever lives in the now. Not necessarily the case for others.

Plus, Fuujin is clearly still carrying a grudge over the loss of his monks. He's been making the storm nigh unbearable for a hundred years now.
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Spirits may generally be willing to forget, but I doubt Fujin is going to forget about the nation that obliterated his power source among the humans. Suddenly cutting off the massive contract Fujin had going is something worth remembering.
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Chibi said that air spirits are generally even more flighty and inconsistent than fire spirits, but this is Fuujin. A god-level spirit. And we comitted genocide on his followers.
This is gonna stick for a while, no matter what.
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Yeah. Restoring the monks would be a good idea at some point.

It would at least help get us out from the "KILL!MAIN!BURNSHRED!" list and downgrade us to only the standard shit list.
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Restoring the monks wouldn't necessarily help. It means that there'd be a rival group of airbenders for Fuujin to sponsor and use. Better to have Azula and her descendants be the only show in town.

It might be better for Aang not to have any children.
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I suspect I missed this from a previous thread. What are lightning nerves and what do they do? And I guess we need to partially cook ourselves to get them?
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Oh, and restoring the monks should actually be restoring the monks.

Anything else might offend Fuujin even more and this way we will only have to deal with some pacifistic recluses.
If we want some combat airbenders, we can just have more children and grandchildren.
It's not like there will be many air monks for some time anyways.
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I suspect I missed this from a previous thread. What are lightning nerves and what do they do? And I guess we need to partially cook ourselves to get them?
Use lightning to boost our reaction time and speed. Likely to require several months in hospital to learn. Because, you know, we're shoving lightning into our body.
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I suspect I missed this from a previous thread. What are lightning nerves and what do they do? And I guess we need to partially cook ourselves to get them?
Lightning nerves is to supercharge reflexes and eventually (probably when we're 40 or something) thinking speed.
And Chibi indicated the process of getting it could put you in bed for months with serious damage.

Pipeman: Restoring the pacifist monks will piss off Raijin.
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I suspect I missed this from a previous thread. What are lightning nerves and what do they do? And I guess we need to partially cook ourselves to get them?
Someone asked, way back, if we could use lightning to mess with our reflexes and make them and our speed in general better with lightning.
Chibi said yes, but it would involve us damaging ourselves for several months during the experimentation.

It came up again, because Chibi recently said that Raijin would have liked it, though, because speeding yourself up was an airbending technique and using lightning to achieve it would have allowed him to laugh in Fuujin's face.
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I suspect I missed this from a previous thread. What are lightning nerves and what do they do? And I guess we need to partially cook ourselves to get them?
Use lightning to boost our reaction time and speed. Likely to require several months in hospital to learn. Because, you know, we're shoving lightning into our body.
Used to, at least. According to Navi, airbenders could recover from lightning strikes comparatively simply. Toph, being an Earth bender, gets hurt worse than most. Air benders, less.

So we might now have some built-in resistance to lightning that mitigates damage and speeds healing.
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Though on the other hand there's also the fact inventing new techniques has become a lot harder due to age to consider. :(
Edited by GoC, Feb 9 2013, 06:00 PM.
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Not a lot, just more difficult.
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Though on the other hand there's also the fact inventing new techniques has become a lot harder due to age to consider. :(
Inventing SOME techniques becomes harder. The really twisty stuff from what I understand. Heat bending and flight that are only tangenitally connected to fire are very difficult to invent. Some stuff is easier as you get older and your chi settles.
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Pipeman: Restoring the pacifist monks will piss off Raijin.
I don't think so.

I took his stance on them to be "What a waste but who the hell cares about them" not "Burn! Maim! Kill!"

Besides we wouldn't be restoring them as, much as letting Aang do what he wants and Raijin would still have us and our descendants, who won't be pacifists any time soon.
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Though on the other hand there's also the fact inventing new techniques has become a lot harder due to age to consider. :(
Harder, yes. But if it no longer renders us bed-ridden whenever we work on it, I consider it a fair trade.
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...Come to think of it, do we even have months left? Unless there's a huge surprise left, Fire Nation is pretty much going to win. Apart from some things left to conclude for Azula (like mom issues), how long before this quest is over anyway?
Edited by Megaolix, Feb 9 2013, 06:09 PM.
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Don't we need to MASTER air before we can do bullshit techs?
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Say did heat-bending just become easier as well because it seems like it would be related to air bending.
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