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| Azula Quest; A princess is you? | |
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| Chibi-Reaper | Feb 7 2013, 10:23 PM Post #1 |
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Likely to what by a wha?
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Posted Image I suppose that this would be the best place to pick this up from. Definitely going to have to re-create or gather together all of the previous posts, of course. Story Alone, right from post numero uno. Azula. 15 years old. Fourth month, ninth day, of year 100 ASC Master Firebender [23/6] -"Butterfly Wings" Fire-flight [3/???] -"Rocket Boost" Advanced flame propulsion [1/???] -"Dragon's Breath" burning exhalation [3/???] -"Advanced Fire Stream" focused fire spout [2/???] --"Hunting Dragon" Flame Spout Seeking Missile [1/???] -"Flame Wall" basically that. [1/???] -"Pinwheel Shot" distance projectile [1/???] -"Butterfly Swarm" razor-fire butterflies [1/???] -"Lava Bending" Fortress Killer [1/X] -"Inner Fire Reinforcement" Self-buff [2/???] -"Edge Enhance" Sword-buff Flames [1/???] -"Voice of Command?" ...not what it says on the tin? [1/1?] Air Bender [4/?] -"Cold Sky Fire" Lighting manipulation. [4/???] --"???" Force Lightning Taser? [1/???] --"???" Electro-Net. [1/???] Advanced Etiquette [2/2?] Spiritualism [3/3?] Leadership [6/???] Politics [6/???] "Agressive Self Defense" [3/???] -Unpleasant Surprises [2/?] Strategy [4/???] Logistics [2/???] Second Child Arts [1/???] Somewhat Cultured [4/???] Basic Trading Knowledge [2/???] Creepy child. Praise the Sun. Fire Good. ... Jealous. So jealous. Once burned, twice....? Tea-sipper. Ruby Butterfly. Divine Right of Kings? Cap'n Jin. Toph Customer, or some other pun. Old Man of the Mountain: Not Your Buddy. Lotus Initiate. Raijin Approves. Fuujin... not so much. Edited by Chibi-Reaper, Feb 9 2013, 06:48 PM.
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| Redon | Feb 8 2013, 01:26 AM Post #101 |
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[x] I'm going with choice one personally.
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| GLH | Feb 8 2013, 01:26 AM Post #102 |
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Honestly, I'm kinda curious what sort of spiritual changes would occur if Azula were to just eat the little bottle fairy. |
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| Hymn of Ragnarok | Feb 8 2013, 01:27 AM Post #103 |
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Hmm...it is true that Zuko probably still has destiny pulling for him. Probably. Sage training doesn't seem to be doing him much good, but sword-wise....doing alright so far. Choice to make, tis unclear to me. |
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| Garlak | Feb 8 2013, 01:28 AM Post #104 |
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... and I'll form the head!
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Yeah, I guess I'd also prefer if Zuko also got a head's up on how long his power would last. |
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| Pipeman | Feb 8 2013, 01:29 AM Post #105 |
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Meh, I'll wait for the information on what Navi gets/wants for this. Just going with option seems is far too risky. Edited by Pipeman, Feb 8 2013, 01:29 AM.
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| SolipsistSerpent | Feb 8 2013, 01:32 AM Post #106 |
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Yes. "A little favor" could be anything. |
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| Redon | Feb 8 2013, 01:32 AM Post #107 |
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It's a deal with a spirit, the answer is always the one that doesn't require us to become closer to being a meat puppet. |
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| Yog | Feb 8 2013, 01:34 AM Post #108 |
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The problem with haggling right now is that Zuko needs a boost now, during the boss fight. We don't have time to spare. So, [x]Cut your hair, burn it and anything else you can to boost Navi, right now. --[x]While doing this, set boundaries for your favor to it. No possession of yours or anyone else's body. No cannibalism, orgies, acts of slaughter (you'll agree to slaughter a cake), drugs, etc. No human sacrifice. No angering major spirits (of the power at least equal to her). No actions with long-term repercussions. No actions that will compromise your position as heir, or will compromise Fire Nation. [x]Option two, with Zuko getting just a bit of power- enough for one or two decisive (critical) blows. He's a great swordsman, you'll believe in him. He is your equal, you'll have to grudgingly admit, even if he's different. And there are chains of destiny to consider. You get all the rest. [x]Hurry up the mountain - you need to finish as fast as possible, in case your faith in Zuko is misplaced. |
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| Border42 | Feb 8 2013, 01:35 AM Post #109 |
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Fish out of gap.
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Vote wise, I'm pretty in favor of option one here. I don't like making deals with spirits generally, and Zuko I imagine will probably be ok. Better then us with our limited firebending, (which is the only combat skill we're good at). |
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| Redon | Feb 8 2013, 01:35 AM Post #110 |
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Navi's not going to fork over even a little power for nothing. |
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| Hymn of Ragnarok | Feb 8 2013, 01:36 AM Post #111 |
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Honestly, as rough as Zuko is having it right now and may continue to have it? Agni is still giving him a bit of light, and he may have others in his corner. Us, on the other hand....Raijin may want us to succeed. But it likely will not be easy. We don't even know how far up the mountain we are. Actually, didn't it imply that the peak is past the clouds? Because if we need to ascend the equivalent of Mount Everest, we may really want that power up. |
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| Yog | Feb 8 2013, 01:38 AM Post #112 |
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Azula is already messed up in the head. Seriously so. And the containment is already failing. And this is a stressful situation. And the spirit world. Anything that is viable to mess her thoughts up is a no-no. Small favor is a small favor. As long as boundaries are established, it is the better option. |
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| Chibi-Reaper | Feb 8 2013, 01:39 AM Post #113 |
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[x] Further negotiation. "... Exactly what manner of small thing would you request?" you ask, slowly. The fairy is, after all, still a known danger even if she is reasonably... friendly. If that is the word to use. She hems and haws, but slowly wilts under a stern glare. "When first you become joined with a man." she says. "Then shall I take my fee of thee." "I did not ask when, Yosei." You say, flatly. "I will not consider a deal, without having it explained in full." "Have you the time to mince words, whilst thy beloved one is in peril...?" The fairy asks, speculatively. You scowl. "... I trust Zuko. Enough to not get himself killed, at least in the brief time it will take for you to be clear about what it is you seek." She pouts in turn. But after a long moment, answers. "I shall be there, when thou art joined. And from thy coupling shall I craft a body of flesh for my own, to use as I please." "Denied." you say, flatly. "I will not stand aside as you kill an infant, even unborn-" "Thy misinterpretation of my words cuts deep." The fairy says, sorrowfully, or in an admirable affectation of it. "I would craft it for myself of the tiniest portion of thee and thy lover, indeed. But I would not be destroying the life of another to create my own. If there is no child meant to be born of that union, than I alone shall form a body in thy womb. If a mortal child results.... I am not so jealous as to deny it. And I shall not spring forth from thy womb alone. And thy contract shall not be denied. Ever still shall I be with thee... merely shall I have a form of flesh for mine own use." .... you are uncertain about this. "Can thy time be afforded, to consider the cost? Thy beloved one's might already dims." the fairy says, pointedly. "Is thy certainty so sure, that he cannot fall in battle, no matter the odds arrayed?" --- [ ] ??? |
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| Border42 | Feb 8 2013, 01:41 AM Post #114 |
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I'm... really feeling the "no" here. I just, really, really have a terrible feeling about that option. We can deal with mental problems, theoretically. This? I'm not so sure. [Edit] And her pressuring of us to make this choice is not helping. Edited by Border42, Feb 8 2013, 01:43 AM.
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| Garlak | Feb 8 2013, 01:43 AM Post #115 |
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... and I'll form the head!
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... Oh hell no. We learned what sort of shit she got up to when she was free. If she has a body, she'll go around doing whatever the hell she wants, AND she will be able to grow stronger with Bending. By the time we die, she will be EXTREMELY powerful AND she will have a body again. She'll be a (super)natural disaster in human form again. And that's not considering just the things she'd do if she had a body again. |
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| Jiven | Feb 8 2013, 01:43 AM Post #116 |
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Rough deal. |
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| Yog | Feb 8 2013, 01:44 AM Post #117 |
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[x]Denied. Even should my brother fall, I will not grant you this. I have seen the records. Sages would rebel, for one. Zuko will balk at this. Iroh will flatly abandon us at this point and try to destroy it. Zuko himself would not want this. No, denied. [x]I will believe in my brother. |
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| Hymn of Ragnarok | Feb 8 2013, 01:44 AM Post #118 |
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Ahahahahahaaaaaaaaa.....yeah, I am suddenly much, much, much less inclined to grant this 'small' favor. First, if the butterfly is born from us, then it is our First Child unless we beat some long odds and conceive first time around. BAD BAD BAD. Second, butterfly has a mortal vessel to hit the feedback loop and gain haxx power. Third, butterfly is going to be autonomous. We know what happened the last time this occurred. Even if we let the butterfly be born and kill her ourselves to cut her off, thereby pissing her off enormously, this is a gigantic favor. Little thing my ass. |
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| Chibi-Reaper | Feb 8 2013, 01:44 AM Post #119 |
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There is no deal yet, mind. You can further haggle the terms, this is just the 'what she wants' of it. |
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| Creticus | Feb 8 2013, 01:44 AM Post #120 |
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Nope. All that succession business is much too important to be messed with in this manner. |
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| Redon | Feb 8 2013, 01:45 AM Post #121 |
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[x] Denied, choice one is go. |
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| GLH | Feb 8 2013, 01:45 AM Post #122 |
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Hahahahaha. Oh, wow. No. I'd rather deal with the fallout Azula growing dragon-esque wings and slightly burning when touching Iron than this. Maybe in the future negotiating for the Fairy to be housed within another using the same wording/agreement that Azula used when she first made her deal with Yosei, but this? No. Edited by GLH, Feb 8 2013, 01:46 AM.
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| Hymn of Ragnarok | Feb 8 2013, 01:47 AM Post #123 |
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Also, we shouldn't eat Navi outright. Mental effects are bad, because we need to pass Raijin's trial. Which is likely lightning based, and we'll need our full faculties to pass. We can't do that if we're right off the fairy's mindset. Would we still be able to bend the lightning like that? I'm currently favoring Navi giving us the power up. |
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| Pipeman | Feb 8 2013, 01:48 AM Post #124 |
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Yeah, I've gotta be honest here, unless we're hoping, for some reason, associating with Azula, of all people, will turn her into a genuinely good person, this seems like a terrible idea. Do, for example, note, that nothing stops her from fucking the world up even while we are still alive. Our contract only states she has to be near us. Not that she can't burn the whole world to ash. |
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| Yog | Feb 8 2013, 01:48 AM Post #125 |
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[x]My brother himself, the lover you are envisioning, will sooner die than allow me to grant you this favor. I believe in him (say this in Voice of Command). Where I would not fall, neither would he. [x]Burn hair to boost Navi. [x]Get her to give us the boost. [x]Hurry up the mountain. Edited by Yog, Feb 8 2013, 01:49 AM.
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| Hymn of Ragnarok | Feb 8 2013, 01:48 AM Post #126 |
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Mmm....well, if we tell her that she must be an obedient child and obey us in all respects, that's the start of a good leash. But she'll still be straining to break loose, and be the child of an heir. .... Yeah, this has BAD IDEA written all over it. |
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| Chibi-Reaper | Feb 8 2013, 01:49 AM Post #127 |
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Again, this is just the first haggling offer that she expects you to bargain down. She doesn't really expect you to let her be your first born and in line to inherit the throne of what should by that time be 'the whole world'. Of course, she's pushing the fact that Zuko is in Mortal Peril to encourage you to be as favorable to her as she can finagle it in counter-offers. |
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| Pipeman | Feb 8 2013, 01:50 AM Post #128 |
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[x] Denied, negotiate further. - [x] Have our deal count for descendants as well? Edited by Pipeman, Feb 8 2013, 01:55 AM.
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| Redon | Feb 8 2013, 01:51 AM Post #129 |
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Considering the last succession and the current one, I want nothing to do with this deal. |
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| Hymn of Ragnarok | Feb 8 2013, 01:51 AM Post #130 |
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Really don't see why people are willing to eat Navi and tank mental effects, when our clarity of mind is CRUCIAL to bending Lightning. We need to be sound of mind and spirit to overcome Raijin's trial, most likely. |
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| Chibi-Reaper | Feb 8 2013, 01:52 AM Post #131 |
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.... specifics would be good, rather than just 'further negotiation'. |
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| Border42 | Feb 8 2013, 01:53 AM Post #132 |
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I'm just all "oh hell no" to the current offer. I'm just not sure what to negotiate down too. |
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| SolipsistSerpent | Feb 8 2013, 01:54 AM Post #133 |
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I assume after this we either hurry up the mountain to Raijin or go save Zuko and then go to Raijin. [x]Offer instead to boost ourselves with her power (without eating her) If the power goes to us, it cycles back to her through our feedback loop, so she doesn't need a little favor. Edited by SolipsistSerpent, Feb 8 2013, 01:55 AM.
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| Pipeman | Feb 8 2013, 01:54 AM Post #134 |
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Who said we want to eat her? But we have to haggle down at least. Maybe offer her to continue her deal with us with our descendents? Better add a clause that they can't re-negotiate. Don't want our first-born to turn into a meat-puppet at age 3. |
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| Yog | Feb 8 2013, 01:54 AM Post #135 |
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Agreed. [x]I believe in my brother. And if he was to choose himself, I know that he would deny you this. [x]Boost Navi by burning hair. [x]All the power goes to us. Zuko gets nothing (option two, but nothing goes to Zuko). No favor to Navi. Well, maybe a cake, later. I'm basically voting for this. Edited by Yog, Feb 8 2013, 01:55 AM.
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| Border42 | Feb 8 2013, 01:56 AM Post #136 |
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Assuming it's allowed. I'm probably in favor of this option. Or something like it. |
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| MacroDaemon | Feb 8 2013, 01:56 AM Post #137 |
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We are also in mortal peril. Even if we negotiate down from this rather steep price, I fear it'll be too much. And if Zuko ever finds out that we made a deal with a spirit to help him, he'll probably react like Iroh did to us making a deal to save Azulon. |
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| Jiven | Feb 8 2013, 01:59 AM Post #138 |
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[x] Denied, negotiate further. - [x] What about our children having the same deal as us: they host her/feed her energy ? |
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| GLH | Feb 8 2013, 01:59 AM Post #139 |
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[X] Nope.jpg -[X] Eat and be done with it. |
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| Pipeman | Feb 8 2013, 01:59 AM Post #140 |
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I think, at least, part of that was Iroh not agreeing with the sentiments of children sacrificing themselves for their elders in addition to the whole 'dealing with spirits' thing. |
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| Hymn of Ragnarok | Feb 8 2013, 02:02 AM Post #141 |
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A binding for Azula and Zuko's children? I think they'll have quite enough problems without the Butterfly being with them from birth onwards. |
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| Garlak | Feb 8 2013, 02:03 AM Post #142 |
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Gah, I'm thinking of something we CAN counter-offer... Because we might still be willing to deal, just... Offer something else. I just can't think of that "something else" yet. Remember that this sort of deal is one that... Well, the example Chibi gave was "If you tell a spirit that you're offering them somebody else's body... but then that person refuses? The deal was still made -- the spirit will just take YOUR body then, even if you had specified that it would only get the other person's body." So, offering deals on behalf of our not-yet-born children... Well, heh. Edited by Garlak, Feb 8 2013, 02:04 AM.
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| Jiven | Feb 8 2013, 02:03 AM Post #143 |
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Well, whatever deal we make, I am in favour of negotiating with Yosei. |
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| MacroDaemon | Feb 8 2013, 02:03 AM Post #144 |
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To be honest, I don't think we have the right to dump such a deal on our kids. That's Ursa level parenting, right there. Besides, they'll have to deal with the risks from an age where they are easily influenced by something constantly talking in their ear. |
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| Darkandus | Feb 8 2013, 02:04 AM Post #145 |
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[x] Eat it and run. We've wasted enough time. |
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| Pipeman | Feb 8 2013, 02:08 AM Post #146 |
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I'm not sure it really counts as offering their bodies. Not to mention children are generally sellable in faustian deals. Also, something like this has to have been done in the deal with Agni so it may be possible. |
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| Garlak | Feb 8 2013, 02:09 AM Post #147 |
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You... do remember that if we EAT it, we have to deal with mental and spiritual side-effects? I'd rather it give us some of its energy (enough to shrink it down) and shelter it in our mouth. That way we get no after-effects. ... Wait, wait. Can we send some of OUR power to Zuko? Can we either donate some of our power, or alternatively let him draw upon our own chi? |
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| Chibi-Reaper | Feb 8 2013, 02:09 AM Post #148 |
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>bodysnatching. There would have been no child to begin with. In the projected scenario, she's taking samples from... well, but not from a fertilized egg, and building a body to grow similarly to a real person but with no soul, an empty vessel for her to fill. If you've read the patchouli thing, think like the homunculi. That's what she wants. Only, you're not an incredible magician, so making one is a bit trickier and more extensive than dumping a few things in a pot and voila, sack of flesh shaped like a human body. But yeah, details, hashing them out. Technically, Iroh would agree that going out and deliberately imperiling yourself to save Azulon from disease that he technically could have cured himself if he'd been willing to take the correct actions, and acting to preserve Zuko's life when you are both in immediate mortal peril in the actual spirit world itself, aren't quite the same things. In any case, there's lots of limiters you can throw on to things, that she'll agree to. With a little pressing, maybe. |
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| MacroDaemon | Feb 8 2013, 02:12 AM Post #149 |
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I might have missed this, but was it ever said we'd be mentally changed? I just remember it being mentioned that we'd be warped. That could also mean physical changes or spiritual ones. Though, I'll be honest, I expect there to be mental changes as well. |
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| Hymn of Ragnarok | Feb 8 2013, 02:14 AM Post #150 |
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You know....we could try putting things in the hands of a higher power. Zuko prayed to Agni and got a response. Maybe we could too? Or maybe Agni could MAYBE give us some light, although that'll probably be much harder since it's in an Elder Spirit's realm. |
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