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| Season 5 – Game Nominations…; Season starts 17/09/06 | |
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| RS200 | 5 Sep 2006, 08:31 AM Post #101 |
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Wasn't talking about you Opa, I know you have more style and intelligence to ever diss such a awesome machine - it was the other 2 cheeky upstarts I was talking about
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| M.A.G | 5 Sep 2006, 09:42 AM Post #102 |
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My mate had a C64. But he soon saw the errors of his way and got rid of it for a MSX. Now that was a cool computer. |
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| madroXounds | 5 Sep 2006, 11:17 AM Post #103 |
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Turned out nice again...
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K ive got MAME fired up and workin great (for once) Bring on the league... Im gonna nominate 2 different games to previously, i shall do this in due course. |
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| Kaiserpc | 5 Sep 2006, 12:19 PM Post #104 |
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Not Going on holiday. Again.
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Now you are having a laugh. The c64 was the biggest selling computer of all time! |
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| Kaiserpc | 5 Sep 2006, 12:21 PM Post #105 |
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It doubles the chances of it being selected. 10 people (or more) can nominate the same game, it just increases the chances of it being selected. Once it is selected, the others then nominate another game |
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| Kaiserpc | 5 Sep 2006, 12:34 PM Post #106 |
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What's the problem with a bit of diversity? There should be no problem in setting up the various emulators. Whoever suggests the game must provide help with getting the emulator to work, how to do screenshots etc - so there will be no problem getting things working. Anyway, Mame isn't as easy to setup as everyone thinks. TK is having problems getting mame to work at the moment, and Space Harrier was a right pain in the back side to get running. And I find it strange you complaining about computer games being selected when you have a c64 sprite as your avatar let's chill guys, can't we just learn to like all computer games whatever the platform. This league was never setup to be mame only. If we are forced to play mame only games, I'd probably bu**er off to the lemon64 or llama leagues
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| koops | 5 Sep 2006, 12:54 PM Post #107 |
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The Jungle King
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calm down dear - its not going to be mame only :rolleyes: so happy days (for you
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| opa-opa | 5 Sep 2006, 01:25 PM Post #108 |
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Steakhouse & Brewery
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I only started "complaining" when someone mentioned the A.. word.... I only thought it a little strange that C64 games were being chosen. I am calm, not going off on one and am happy to play most things I just think having the 8-bits brought in brings up other problems such as the version being played could be the worst release of all the home versions to everyone except the nominator.. Does that title then go in to the "played games" pile and we can't nominate it again on another platform..? I used to love playing Chuckie egg on my spectrum but the BBC version is the one that has been played... Does that mean I can't nominate/play my favourit version..? With MAME you know your going to play the arcade version, simple.. The same version everyone had in the arcades. Anyways I'm happy and looking foward to playing what ever comes out of the bag, except games on that nasty CPC thing... I might have a week off if any of those come out
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| a.j.green | 5 Sep 2006, 02:51 PM Post #109 |
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Yes...I see. It's all beginning to make sense now... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
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| M.A.G | 5 Sep 2006, 04:11 PM Post #110 |
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If you carnt get the emus to work cos like me your thick as pig shit, but have the original hardware and said game. I dont know how i would post a pic of the score tho, i dont have a camera phone or digital camera. |
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| Ritchardo MkII | 5 Sep 2006, 08:04 PM Post #111 |
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Right. If its such a big problem to play a CPC game then fine I'll change my nomination. I would point out though that Spindizzy is an absolute classic and if anyone has played the Amstrad version and any other and can still tell me that the CPC version isn't the best then you're off your chump. However, if hissy fits are going to be had over diversifying the experiences or the idea of trying something new is truly terrifying then I will change without another word about it. [wobbly mode/] |
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| Kaiserpc | 5 Sep 2006, 09:27 PM Post #112 |
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don't let them untechie boring Mame types change your mind! Stand up for what you believe in, even if it is a CPC :D. Seriously though, you shouldn't be bullied into changing your selection! As for getting emulators to work, it's a piece of p*ss. Honestly, it's just as easy to get c64 emulation working on Vice as it is to get mame working. There seems to be more and more technophobes on here. Surely if you can use a PC and a browser you can setup an emulator. As I said before, when a non mame game is picked, whoevers choice it is must help in setting up the emulator, running the game, and taking screenshots. Maybe we should have another vote then (can't be bothered starting a new voting topic myself). I seem to be in the minority now re: keeping the diversity
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| koops | 5 Sep 2006, 10:09 PM Post #113 |
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The Jungle King
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I'd like to point out the CPC choices should be changed - but not for tech reasons
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| merman | 5 Sep 2006, 11:18 PM Post #114 |
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Retro Survival Ed
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Shoving my two currency units into the mass debate... Spindizzy is a classic. But it's not really suited to competition play. Why do I say this? Because we played it in the Lemon64 league. A couple of people had huge scores, everyone else was stuck around 20%. I envisage the same thing would happen here. I'm not going to rule out any formats other than MAME - with the only proviso being that the emulator is VERY EASY to set up and get running. E.G. Unzip file, double-click icon, change screen size or sound parameters, load ROM/disk/tape, press a key or a single menu item to save a screenie. Any excessive gubbins (TM and copyright koopa42) should disqualify the choice. |
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| Elgin_McQueen | 5 Sep 2006, 11:51 PM Post #115 |
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2 Points 1. Ritchardo MkII - Sounds familiar, why is this? 2. No votes or anything of the kind should take place, nor rule changing, this is Ant's league he should have the final say on any changes that go ahead. I agree, it is a bit of a hassle sorting out new emu's and stuff, but it never takes more than 5 mins. The hardest part would be finding the rom, which Ant would always have a copy of as he tests the games out before the start of the season to see if they're ok. Likewise the Emulator if need be. |
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| Leezer | 6 Sep 2006, 08:05 AM Post #116 |
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Leecher more like
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Like i`ve said before its not the games that should be in question, everybody has fav games that others will hate, i don`t like sf2 type games much and am no good at `em but thats life. no, its the emulators that should be in question. every game played should be well emulated, for example :- 1. can keys/joysticks be configured to most ppls liking ? 2. can the emu take screenshots ? 3. are the actual games emulated ok ? if these 3 things are all yes, then bring it on... the only complaint i have about the nominated games is the pc engin game parasol stars, good game but not sure the pc engin emus are up to things. perhaps we could try the amiga version.......perhaps not thats one of the most trickiest emus to get going (kickstarts etc...) |
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| a.j.green | 6 Sep 2006, 08:39 AM Post #117 |
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As far as the Spectrum is concerned, EmuZWin does all three, but if any of mine are chosen, I am more than happy to help with any problems. It is worth pointing out as well, on the PC, if the emulator doesn't take snapshots, you can always use the Alt + PrintScrn button on the keyboard to capture the current window and place it on the clipboard. I tried to get Spindizzy working on the CPC emulator Caprice, and had no problems, but I'd recommend reading the FAQs as it is a little different loading roms. The difficult bits were finding a downloadable version of Spindizzy, and working out what the keys are. |
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| Sureshot | 6 Sep 2006, 12:28 PM Post #118 |
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Test your might
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Galaga '90 was alright when we played that. PCE emulation is generally fine; it was one of the first consoles I ever tried emulating and even then the standard was pretty decent (we're talking about 6 or 7 years ago here). As for the debate in general, I enjoy the diversity of nominations over different platforms, just as long as the game is league-suitable, the emulation is reliable and the controls aren't impossible to play with. It's the responsibility of the person who nominates the games to check these factors, else we have permission to go angry mob formation on their arse. It's not like every MAME game we've had so far has been a perfect experience. You could have put Threshers out of business with the amount of w(h)ine Fire Trap generated due to the dodgy controls, for instance
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| Kaiserpc | 6 Sep 2006, 02:38 PM Post #119 |
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I was half way through your post, and I thought what about Fire Trap! But then you mentioned it at the end of your post anyway The funny thing is, BigDon was going to pick the c64 version of the game. But, a few people complained about using emulators so he picked the unplayable (unless you have two joysticks) Mame version. Just goes to show that Mame/Aracde isn't always best :rolleyes: |
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| Ritchardo MkII | 6 Sep 2006, 04:49 PM Post #120 |
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Retro Gamer forum and CPC Zone. Neither of those then god only knows! Sorry for the minor wobbly last night guys... had a bit of a bad day at work. As for setting up an emu both Caprice and Winape are easy enough to use and all keys, joypads etc can be mapped with very little hassle. Winape supports autorun and boots dsk files from zips so it really is a canter to use (I prefer Caprice myself but each to their own...) In the event that it makes it - I'll provide full and detailed guides for anybody who wants to take part (It is deceptively simple though) |
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| fairziff | 6 Sep 2006, 07:08 PM Post #121 |
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No problem. Totally justified if you ask me! |
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| Elgin_McQueen | 7 Sep 2006, 12:00 AM Post #122 |
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Must be the Retro Gamer forum then. |
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| M.A.G | 7 Sep 2006, 04:40 PM Post #123 |
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I have winuae Amiga emu and its the hardest thing i have ever used on a PC. i have only ever had two games work on it, and i'll be fucked if i know how i made them work
. I have also tried Kega and never got that to work. I would love an Amstrad emu so it was the computer i owned as a kid and still do. So if any body can pm whats the easiest to use then i would be more than greatful.
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| M.A.G | 7 Sep 2006, 04:42 PM Post #124 |
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That means nowt. The ps2 is the market leader currently and it still shite. It just goes to show how wrong the masses can be .
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| BigDon | 7 Sep 2006, 06:52 PM Post #125 |
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- the Popes been preaching about the PS2 at services???
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| necronom | 7 Sep 2006, 10:03 PM Post #126 |
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Para(lytic)Droid
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What's wrong with the PS2? It has loads of games (more that anything else?) that range from serious games like GTA, MGS and Burnout, to Final Fantasy, to party games like Guitar Hero, Buzz and EyeToy. It also has the best controller, plays DVDs, is cheap, and is still supported by all the developers. What would you suggest that can match or exceed that? |
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| Kaiserpc | 7 Sep 2006, 11:02 PM Post #127 |
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personally, I think the controller stinks! The gamecube and N64 controllers are far better. |
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| Spirit | 7 Sep 2006, 11:04 PM Post #128 |
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On the level
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Try find an RPG on the PS2 that feels complex rather than arcadey. I'm still looking
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| Kaiserpc | 7 Sep 2006, 11:05 PM Post #129 |
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Not Going on holiday. Again.
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Ok then, so what so great about the MSX, that made it better than the c64? was it that nobody in Britain bought one. Or was it if you were unfortunate enough to get one you couldn't buy any games for it locally.
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| M.A.G | 7 Sep 2006, 11:06 PM Post #130 |
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One word CHAVS. The one way to make the PS3 sales go through the roof, is to give them all a burberry spray job. The pads on the PS2 are shite. the worst part being the analogue sticks. The reliability is the worst of any system. Need i go on. |
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| opa-opa | 8 Sep 2006, 07:57 AM Post #131 |
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Steakhouse & Brewery
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The N64 pad was the WORST pad ever made, you can only use 2/3rds of it at any one time, when it has the Rumble pak in it carrys to much weight and the balance is off centre. The analoge stick becomes lose and unresponsive within a couple of months of real usage. The PS2 pad sits in your hand centred so you can reach every button without moving your hands around, The rumble feature has two weights, centered and at the front of the pad meaning gravity don't try and remove it from your hands like when you are using an N64 one. If you want some great RPG's whats wrong with the PS2..? Not only does it have some fantastic new titles you can also use the PS1 back catalogue.. Shame about the chavs though.. |
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| revgiblet | 8 Sep 2006, 12:52 PM Post #132 |
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Available for weddings, funerals and Christmas dinner
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What about the Nippon Ichi games? Granted, they're not 'proper' RPGs like most PC efforts, but there's an lot of depth and complexity in them. |
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| necronom | 8 Sep 2006, 04:51 PM Post #133 |
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Para(lytic)Droid
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CHAVS: Nothing to do with the PS2. The Pads: Generally regarded by most people to be excellent. Reliability: I've never had a problem, and I don't know anyone with a PS2 that has had a problem with them. I do know one person who had lots of problems with an XBox and lost all his saves when they changed the HD in it. Plus, the reliability of a small percentage of machines doesn't make the machine itself any worse. It sounds like you have a personal dislike of Sony, which I can partially understand, since I have a complete loathing of microsoft and anything related to them (the MSX included). Sony have been good to me, so I don't really know why you dislike them, but I'm sure you have your reasons. |
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| Spirit | 8 Sep 2006, 05:15 PM Post #134 |
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On the level
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Hmm... I'll have to have a look for those. I may have missed one then
Btw, er... just thinking we're all going a bit off-rails in this topic and we should probably make a new topic for this discussion rather than flood the nominations topic |
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| Antiriad2097 | 8 Sep 2006, 05:30 PM Post #135 |
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League Co-Ordinator
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I have 4 minutes left to post before my time runs out here, so... The league will not be MAME only. We´ve thrashed this out before and majority prefer it this way. Players nominate what they want, but they won´t always be accepted. As Merman pointed out above, Spindizzy isn´t great for gameplay reasons. Emulation of most systems is fine. Bear in mind there are some Apple users around though... Anyone nominating for anything other than MAME will be expected to provide tech support if their game is chosen. Support will be expected to be provided within hours of a request at most, so don´t think you can swan off for days. I´m ok with getting most stuff working, so you can always PM me for help though asking on the board is usually simpler. time up... |
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| zaphod79 | 8 Sep 2006, 08:53 PM Post #136 |
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Like 69, but bigger
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My two nominations are : 1) Mame - Ghosts 'n Goblins - romulan gng A great game that i do keep comming back to despite the fact its over 20 years old - and another i've never finished although i have been to the final level in the arcade 2) Since i've nominated it the last 2 seasons i'll stick with Big 5's classic Bounty Bob Strikes Back ( BOUNTYBO_01054_01.zip ) on the C64 And a suggestion , for those asking about different / non mame games - in the 'other games' section why dont we have an area where if you want to nominate a non standard OS type game you write up a set of instructions with download links and screen shots for getting the emulator up and running under windows with info on how to take a screenshot *and* have a download link for an equivalent emulator on the mac ? Those people out there that use a mac can / may want to help to get screenshots and info about getting that game running on their system as well ? I have no problems playing any of the old 8-bit computer or console systems however as you come up to 16 bit (SNES/Megadrive/etc) you have problems if someone doesnt have a beefy enough machine or doesnt have the right graphic drivers / sound card / etc Also if there are a number of people who have nominated games for a specific system (e.g the C64 seems popular) they could have a different thread for some of the different C64 emulators out there (e.g. Frodo / Vice). I agree with what was said above in that for a game to be nominated it needs : 1) An easy to set up emulator to run it on both Windows and Mac (in fact is it worth a thread somewhere where people post their machine specs - we may have some people with older P2 / P3 500/600 mhz machines?) 2) A location <wink wink> where the roms can be downloaded 3) A method of getting a good screenshot (printscreen doesnt always work) 4) A suitable scoring method (sorry but i think the Mario Kart nomination runs foul of this one) 5) A suitable control method (i'd love to nominate 720 degrees but its not that playable with keyboard or a non custom stick - even Robotron would be an issue for those out there trying to play on keys or with a normal joystick) I think we've also ran into some problems where to conform people have picked the mame versions of games and its not always been the best version , I'm thinking here of firetrap (where i think the C64 version was much better) or even with the current champions challenge where in fact after playing the mame version i went straight over to play the Atari 800 version for the last hour which was much more fun ! Thoughts ? |
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| Elgin_McQueen | 9 Sep 2006, 02:25 AM Post #137 |
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Reckon Mario Kart could work, dunno if it would be a best time on each track type thing or what though. |
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| markopoloman | 10 Sep 2006, 01:06 AM Post #138 |
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Bites
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Blimey! My PC went tits up BIG time and I lost ALL of the data on my main HD :angry: including ROMULANS and EMU's
FFS would the moaners stop bloody moaning! Most Emu's are a piece of piss to set up - even the slimey faggots that have a computer phobia should be big enough to at least give a game a try!!! Koops - wouldn't take much to dust off that C64 CD I gave you last year B) just forget you are playing C64 games and just crack on with the comp. Amstrad - YES I am in the group of people that slate the Amturd, but I will still play nominated game on that system. If only there was a very easy to use Amiga Emu - my second choice would be from that system - but it is a right pain in the rectum!! Still thinking about my second choice though................................ |
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| necronom | 10 Sep 2006, 10:34 AM Post #139 |
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Para(lytic)Droid
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MPM, which Amiga game were you going to nominate. I find that once you have the right config for the game it will work extremely easily every time. I could have a go at setting one up for that particular game, then it should just be a case of running the emulator and selecting the config. As easy as MAME. That's really bad news about your HD. I think it was Opa Opa who had a similar problem not long ago. If that happened to me I think it would take me weeks to get everything installed and configured how I had it. I hope you had data files/documents etc backed up! |
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| markopoloman | 11 Sep 2006, 01:31 AM Post #140 |
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Data backed up?!!!! Don't be silly
Well Necronom if you can get an 'Easy to set-up n play' Amiga Emu - then I will choose............. Erm - sorry guys, but I LOVED this game......... ![]() Zarathrusta by Hewson (1991) Look - no vector graphics
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| a.j.green | 11 Sep 2006, 07:32 AM Post #141 |
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Its not easy...
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Wouldn't it be tricky working out the scores, though, because the lowest score (i.e. fastest time) would be the best, so would the formula still work? |
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| RS200 | 11 Sep 2006, 10:18 AM Post #142 |
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I knew one of the guys who made this beauty - Thomas Dahlgren .. wonder what he is doing now ?It is great game though MPM you are right there. |
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| Elgin_McQueen | 11 Sep 2006, 12:27 PM Post #143 |
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They did something like this in the first season, dunno how they worked it out, check KaiserPC's page to find it. |
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| necronom | 11 Sep 2006, 05:44 PM Post #144 |
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Para(lytic)Droid
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I thought about that game today! I read a review about a film called Zathura and thought of Zarathrusta. I think I liked the game, but its been a while since I played it. I'll have a go now and see how easy it is to get running. |
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| necronom | 11 Sep 2006, 07:30 PM Post #145 |
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Para(lytic)Droid
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Well, that was painless. I had the game on within a minute of clicking WinUAE. I just chose one of my config files from another game at random; changed the disks to the Zarathrusta disks; clicked start; played to level 11; died. It does seem a bit easy though. There is a trainer, so REDUCING the lives would probably be a good idea. My config file is here. I think it's almost as easy to play Amiga games as it is to play MAME games, and the Amiga is probably the hardest one to do. All you need to do when you first install WinUAE is put a Kickstart Rom file in the ROM directory, put the games wherever you like, put the config file in the Configurations directory (or make a config file yourself), and press start. To use my config file you would have to choose the games disk images from wherever you put them on your own PC, and probably choose your joystick interface (as mine is set to the Stelladaptor). Not exactly brain surgery! The hardest part is getting the config file right as it's a bit of trial and error sometimes. In this case it worked first time for me. The disk images I used are here (disk 1) and here (disk 2). |
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| Elgin_McQueen | 12 Sep 2006, 12:43 AM Post #146 |
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You say it's easy, but reading your post i'm staring blankly at the screen with my mouth hanging open, in fact, hang on, it's still hanging open. There I go, much better. |
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| markopoloman | 12 Sep 2006, 01:51 AM Post #147 |
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Well - having lost ALL of my emulators when my HD went tits up, I thought I would give it a quick go - Went to LemonAmiga and downloaded there frontend for winuae (a bit like mame32) Called Lemonade managed to 'ahem' find the kickstart1.3 and rom file needed using torrent. Popped them where they should go Hey presto - Zarathrusta was working 100% in less than 10 mins
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| a.j.green | 13 Sep 2006, 02:14 PM Post #148 |
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Its not easy...
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With so many games chosen, it makes it harder for people to load up the game beforehand and get some sneaky practice in, cos the chances are it won't be selected. If there were only, say 15 games, then people could spend the break inbetween seasons getting good at em. The more the merrier, I say! But more Speccy!!!!!
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| SirClive | 13 Sep 2006, 03:21 PM Post #149 |
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Curious
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But are we not a trustworthy band of b@stards??? |
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| a.j.green | 13 Sep 2006, 09:49 PM Post #150 |
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Its not easy...
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NO!
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