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Season 7, Week 2: Burgertime (MAME); ROM btime.zip (Data East Set 1)
Topic Started: 29 Apr 2007, 11:27 AM (2,895 Views)
opa-opa
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fr@ser
Apr 30 2007, 09:29 PM

Half the fun of this game opa, is planning out how to hurd the food,yourself ! :)

Thats not why I would like to see it....
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Didn't even realise I had an action button till second level. :unsure:
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tk421
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opa-opa
Apr 30 2007, 10:19 PM
fr@ser
Apr 30 2007, 09:29 PM

Half the fun of this game opa, is planning out  how to hurd the food,yourself ! :)

Thats not why I would like to see it....

can't you remember your quote from final fight m8

any chance u cud do a inp. file SC to give a couple of pointers


I think you should just practise rather than get everyone to show you how to play......
If you spent as much time playing as you (all of you, not just TK) do hunting for tips or watching other peoples INP's then you would have learnt how to beat the guy yourselfs

so practice practice pratice opa ;)
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May 1 2007, 05:26 AM
opa-opa
Apr 30 2007, 10:19 PM
fr@ser
Apr 30 2007, 09:29 PM

Half the fun of this game opa, is planning out  how to hurd the food,yourself ! :)

Thats not why I would like to see it....

can't you remember your quote from final fight m8

any chance u cud do a inp. file SC to give a couple of pointers


I think you should just practise rather than get everyone to show you how to play......
If you spent as much time playing as you (all of you, not just TK) do hunting for tips or watching other peoples INP's then you would have learnt how to beat the guy yourselfs

so practice practice pratice opa ;)

Yes I remember my quote, I also remember that we have an entitlement that allows us to ask for more proof to be posted in the form of a video replay if an extraordinary score is posted....

Getting nearly double what everyone else is scoring while still only on level 2 counts as extraordinary and I would like to see the proof..

I'm not accusing anybody of cheating and a score like that deserves to be applauded, but I want to see it, don't anybody else..?
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Apr 30 2007, 09:29 PM
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Nice score - that one would get you into the top 15 in the world :

http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=2...&gi=3748&vi=677

You just need to get 20x it to get close to the top spot :-)
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To paraphrase what various people wrote earlier...... "How come fr@ser's posted a large score and he's only on level 2. I want to see it"

I've watch a video clip of someone doing the first stage and getting about 66K.

But when I try to copy what they've done the enemies move in a different pattern and I can't get them to group together properly hence I'll be posting a score of about 10K to start with :rolleyes:

ME.
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fr@ser

opa-opa
May 1 2007, 09:15 AM
tk421
May 1 2007, 05:26 AM
opa-opa
Apr 30 2007, 10:19 PM
fr@ser
Apr 30 2007, 09:29 PM

Half the fun of this game opa, is planning out  how to hurd the food,yourself ! :)

Thats not why I would like to see it....

can't you remember your quote from final fight m8

any chance u cud do a inp. file SC to give a couple of pointers


I think you should just practise rather than get everyone to show you how to play......
If you spent as much time playing as you (all of you, not just TK) do hunting for tips or watching other peoples INP's then you would have learnt how to beat the guy yourselfs

so practice practice pratice opa ;)

Yes I remember my quote, I also remember that we have an entitlement that allows us to ask for more proof to be posted in the form of a video replay if an extraordinary score is posted....

Getting nearly double what everyone else is scoring while still only on level 2 counts as extraordinary and I would like to see the proof..

I'm not accusing anybody of cheating and a score like that deserves to be applauded, but I want to see it, don't anybody else..?

I wish it was such an extraordinary score,but as zaphod79 has shown,it's nothing compared to what the top players have.

And i don't think any of the players who use mame, for Burger time ,allow their inp files to be available for download,because they have took the time to work out the patterns of the food ,and don't want some one just coming along and easily copying their hard work (a reason why my sf2ce 1,593,600 1st place TG score isn't available to watch( fellow TG member clay K)).

My final fight score isn't the best,but i did show it,to prove i was capable of having a one million score advantage ,over the rest (Opa-Opa),so if the need does require it for BT ,it will be submitted,but PM'd to the GUVs !

But it's still early days,so i expect more members to get better scores ,as they play and learn the methods to boost their scores !
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fr@ser
May 1 2007, 12:33 PM


But it's still early days,so i expect  more members to get better scores ,as they play and learn the methods to boost their scores !

or use google................ :ph43r:
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May 1 2007, 12:33 PM

My final fight score isn't the best,but i did show it,to prove i was capable of having a one million score advantage ,over the rest (Opa-Opa),so if the need does require it for BT ,it will be submitted,but PM'd to the GUVs !


This is NOT in the spirit of the league, we don't hide things from each other and if you are asked to post an INP file you post it for all to see. If you want to join some stuck up, secret scoring community go ahead but this league is not the place for that.... Or at least I didn't think it was..?

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Here's what Ant wrote in Season 3:
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This is supposed to be a friendly competition...

Its generally considered 'nice' to leak out your secrets over the week so people can see some gradual improvement. Doing it at the last moment is a bit pointless as there's no opportunity to use the tips competitively, so I can see some players feel that its just rubbing their noses in defeat.

If anyone is feeling particularly anal about it, then they can always go and read one of the plentiful online guides.

Either way, its not worth getting upset about.

[additional edit]

I should perhaps also mention that when the league was started, it was meant as just a light bit of fun, some gentlemanly competition and a way to get to know games we may otherwise not play fully. Leezer wouldn't have known that or known that 'secrets' weren't really expected.

The idea behind not keeping secrets is that we're all on a level playing field then - its not about some hidden knowledge that gives you an advantage, its about natural skill and ability. Even with the 'secrets' of Bubble Bobble I'm still crap at it and come nowhere near your score...

Here's what I wrote in Season 3:
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I'll always offer tips when I discover them or know about them already. In my opinion, having everyone on a level playing field is better for competition, and therefore more fun for me personally. Inadvertantly, this also results in the true best man winning each week, rather than somebody who simply knew more information about the game than everybody else.

Some of us have a week to get to grips with a game, whereas others have years of knowledge. The league would be extremely dull if everyone just picked their favourite games and didn't offer out any hints.


http://z11.invisionfree.com/RetroLeague/in...wtopic=13&st=60
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titch

On that note :rolleyes:

There is a method of getting all the baddies together so you can get them to drop together on a piece of burger and get maximum points.

The technique requires a fair amount of timing and skill but once it's mastered there's no element of risk apart from making mistakes as the baddies follow the same route.

This information for the 1st three levels is readily available and if anyone is interested a quick google will get the information. I am more than happy to post the link but don't want to spoil anyone's enjoyment of the game by following a "risk free once you've mastered it route". I thought it spoiled the fun element of the game so have no real interest in trying to do it.

Anyway enjoy making yer burgers folks, glad to see for some it aint about getting huge scores and having fun just playing the games :)
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to be honest opa i can't blame fraser for not wanting to show his technique whilst i personally think he is a bit of a big head theres no doubting he is by far the best player in this league , he has printed up the score list :
"SCORING -

Stacking a burger ingredient : 50 points per ingredient
Crushing Hot Dog : 100 points
Crushing Pickle : 200 points
Crushing Egg : 300 points
Collecting Ice Cream : 500 points
Collecting Coffee : 1,000 points
Collecting Fries : 1,500 points
Dropping Ingredient with 1 enemy on top : 500 points
Dropping Ingredient with 2 enemies on top : 1,000 points
Dropping Ingredient with 3 enemies on top : 2,000 points
Dropping Ingredient with 4 enemies on top : 4,000 points
Dropping Ingredient with 5 enemies on top : 8,000 points
Dropping Ingredient with 6 enemies on top : 16,000 points
and so on...

and a link by RS200 to a burgertime site shows this other snippet of info
There is a simple way to get a massive score on this. For each of the six screens you need to get all the hot dogs / eggs / pickles grouped together following you. You can do this by throwing a pepper in front of them. Once bundled together they will chase you like a single piece of food. You then drop the lot from the bottom bun working upwards on each screen. If memory serves this is 32000 a drop. The six screens can be completed like this three times but the first screen for the 4th time around is rediculously fat. I got the official world record of 3,058,000 in 1983. Only the 58,800 registered on the screen. I still had 110 extra lives and pinches of pepper!

so there is no doubting these sort of scores are possible and the fact that last minute leezer knows about it just backs up the fact (still waiting for that beer m8)
;)
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BHF & LML

tk421 where's that :worthy: smilie :lol: :lol:
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opa-opa
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tk421
May 1 2007, 05:22 PM
to be honest opa i can't blame fraser for not wanting to show his technique whilst i personally think he is a bit of a big head theres no doubting he is by far the best player in this league ,

so there is no doubting these sort of scores are possible and the fact that last minute leezer knows about it just backs up the fact (still waiting for that beer m8)
;)

I'm not doubting the scores are possible I just think that Fraser is not playing the league in the spirit it was intended and is indeed a bit big headed...
In the past if an INP was asked for EVERY member was more than willing to post one and help others....

I hope this league don't become home to another elitest bunch of selfish glory hunters like so many others out there..
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i agree with you m8 but i can't see BHF the sort of person to divulge his secrets which is a shame as he obviously has a lot ot offer
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opa-opa
May 1 2007, 05:55 PM
tk421
May 1 2007, 05:22 PM
to be honest opa i can't blame fraser for not wanting to show his technique whilst i personally think he is a bit of a big head theres no doubting he is by far the best player in this league ,

so there is no doubting these sort of scores are possible and the fact that last minute leezer knows about it just backs up the fact (still waiting for that beer m8)
;)

I'm not doubting the scores are possible I just think that Fraser is not playing the league in the spirit it was intended and is indeed a bit big headed...
In the past if an INP was asked for EVERY member was more than willing to post one and help others....

I hope this league don't become home to another elitest bunch of selfish glory hunters like so many others out there..

Or it could turn into a site with a resident whinger ,himself not playing in the spirit which the league was intended to be ;) , I'm sure gamefaqs do a walk through,you know,where someone else has done all the hard work for you ,then you just follow the dots !


I'd also like to say, this is the first time i ,and probably others ,have ever played Burger time,i don't know any hidden secrets to give me an unfair advantage ,( like the Ffight diamond trick ,a trick that turns everything ,in every breakable object e.g crate/barrel into a diamond or gold bar,giving you some really big scores) all I worked out,was how to get all the food together,as one piece,then to drop the burger bits,with them on, starting from the ground level first,to the top level last,you never had any problem with anyones scores, during the week that The ninja was played .




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May 1 2007, 09:05 PM

Or it could turn into a site with a resident  whinger ,himself not playing in the spirit which  the league was intended to be ;) , I'm sure gamefaqs do a walk through,you know,where someone else has done all the hard work for you ,then you just  follow the dots !



Well if the choice is resident whinger or selfish bigheaded tw@t I know which one I'd pick ;)
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End of level 4, just needed a few more burger pieces to drop and I would've reached level 5.

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Must say that I agree with Opa with regards to the "spirit of the league" debate. There's no pride in reading someone else's tactics on some faqs site and simply following them, and as far as I know this league wasn't meant for that. There are plenty of other sites which offer a more suitable challenge for those who are looking for more "hardcore" opposition.
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I think that the intent of this league should be a competition of every one against each other. Don't you receive some pride out of "beating" a game? I know in this case it wraps around forever so it isn't possible, but just trying to best your last score, no matter what tactics you use, should be the bar you use to judge yourself. Challenge yourself to achieve a certain goal, whether that be 50,000 points, or level 5, whatever. In fr@ser's case he is simply trying to best his score using his methods (whether you believe in his methods or not is not entirely relevant).

So just go out there, have fun playing the game and try to do YOUR best. isn't that what this is supposed to be all about?

K
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Why not compromise and show the vid after 1200 Sunday?
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May 2 2007, 05:12 PM
Why not compromise and show the vid after 1200 Sunday?

Whats the point..?
Lets just leave it here.
As I said before I applaud your score Fr@ser but your attiude toward fellow league players needs a little work..
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this gives you an idea how to group em and get the large scores
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0_Wn0i_YkY
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162900 thought it was (burger) time for my feeble 1st effort

incidentally - its games like these that make the scoring system a farce, it should be a points system ie. 25 points 1st place, 23 points 2nd place, 22 points 3rd place etc..

looks like fraser`s gonna get 100 score and the rest of us in the 60`s if were lucky
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Men of sausage! You will tremble before the might of my uh..pepper and fall at the weight of my burger making skills.
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This is a nice little game - but as usual I am shit!


6600 is my 5th attempt but I will improve.......... :blink: :lol:
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Blimey! After reading the petty squabbles on this thread, I think I need to find some decent cheats for this game :huh:

I come here to play a game and have a laugh. Its ok to be critical of another member but lets stop all the name calling.

On another note, having worked for mcdonalds in the past (for 15 years) :o I should get the top score here... but I always got killed by a giant gherkin when I was cooking :lol: Hence the poor score from me :P
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May 3 2007, 12:54 PM


On another note, having worked for mcdonalds in the past (for 15 years) :o I should get the top score here... but I always got killed by a giant gherkin when I was cooking :lol: Hence the poor score from me :P

That actually happened to you while you were working at McDonalds? Holy Molie, what are they putting in the Big-Macs??
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May 3 2007, 01:35 PM
markopoloman
May 3 2007, 12:54 PM


On another note, having worked for mcdonalds in the past (for 15 years) :o  I should get the top score here... but I always got killed by a giant gherkin when I was cooking :lol:  Hence the poor score from me :P

That actually happened to you while you were working at McDonalds? Holy Molie, what are they putting in the Big-Macs??

The big one's don't go in the food, they go on peoples hats. The further the starting distance the better. :D
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Not a bad little game.
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Er............... Not getting into this at all.

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287850.. practice practice


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I thought I would like this game - but I don't :angry: :P


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Its not easy...
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Found that I can get over 20000 every time now, but still can't get past level 4!

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Its growing on me.......

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19150 <_<
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I may have to concede defeat with this one. Still not played another game since the first one and time is running out. No chance tonight. Mrs Ant was supposed to be going to the gym but changed her mind.
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The best thing about this game by far is A.J.'s avatar. :D
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http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=B&game_id=7238

"I got the official world record of 3,058,000 in 1983. Only the 58,800 registered on the screen. I still had 110 extra lives and pinches of pepper!" :mellow:
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Like 69, but bigger
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Like 69, but bigger
Scores updated in the first post
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Pah! I do not like this game. 'Nuff!


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May 4 2007, 05:39 PM
I may have to concede defeat with this one. Still not played another game since the first one and time is running out. No chance tonight. Mrs Ant was supposed to be going to the gym but changed her mind.

Just an excuse cus you cant beat my score :P :P :P :P :P





















BATE SET............... :ph43r:
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23000
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Elgin_McQueen
May 4 2007, 06:38 PM
The best thing about this game by far is A.J.'s avatar. :D

I'm not sure about the colour of the ingredients on the Speccy version of the burger. I think it must be GM food. :)
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I think four goes at this one is enough for me. I played an 8-bit home computer version of this in another league last year, and it was much better.

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May 5 2007, 10:47 AM
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I think four goes at this one is enough for me. I played an 8-bit home computer version of this in another league last year, and it was much better.

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In which case you're now what i'm aiming for, managed to reach 15700 but I have a target now and i'm going for it. :D
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I don't mind claiming last place for myself on this one.
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a couple more goes today, starting to get into it:

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I'm sure this is much harder than Mr Wimpy.
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http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=B&game_id=7238

"I got the official world record of 3,058,000 in 1983. Only the 58,800 registered on the screen. I still had 110 extra lives and pinches of pepper!" :mellow:

does that score need editting or does the machine reset the score at 1 million?
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I like this game now.

At first I really really didn't like it - but I suppose its like everything, Given time you grow to like things.......

Like the Spectrum - only it took me over 20 years to like that :lol: :P Still struggling with the Amstrad though ;)


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