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Balcony Chuck restoration
Topic Started: May 30 2015, 07:28 AM (41,116 Views)
80sgirl
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Since I plan on restoring Chuck, I figured it was time to make a thread. First post is more of a record of where I'm starting from.

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The good:

He has all his body cosmetics.
They're in great shape.
Has all his cylinders and a valve bank.
Parts seem to be in good working order.

The bad:

Mech is missing the right forearm and hand.
Whites of the eyes are marked and discolored.
Irises are chipped, scratched and also mismatched.
No nose.
No lower lip.
No tongue.
Is that white thing supposed to be teeth?

The unknown:

Status of cylinders, valves and other mechanics. (No compressor or controller to test those yet.)

Working on either getting the old right forearm/hand from the previous owner or a replacement from another member.

Eyes are really important to a character, whether they're 2D or 3D. Here are Chuck's.

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Now you know why I've taken most pics with his eyes closed. I think the iris on the left eye is newer, or at least intended for a different bot. It's a different size, and the lines are painted in white. The pupil is off center too. I'm hoping to find a replacement that matches the smaller one on the right eye. Lots of wear on both from the eyelids rubbing against the surface and taking the paint off. My plan is to fill the chipped areas with epoxy putty, then sand smooth and repaint.

Eyes I can keep shut, but the nose and teeth stick out all the time. Still waiting on most materials, but I got tired of looking at the pull tab hanging from his mouth and made him some new teeth from some imitation leather. I looked at pictures and guessed on the size and shape, but I think they turned out pretty good. Even though he still looks weird without a nose, the new teeth make him look much better already.

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On figures of this age, they used French stretch terry fabric to cover his nose, snout, jaw and lower lip. The tongue was made from satin. The previous owner reupholstered his snout and jaw, but didn't use the same type of cloth.

Unfortunately, stretch terry is not easy to find except online. The pink fabric looks fine so I'll leave that for now until I can find the correct fabric. My plan is to give him a new nose and recreate the lower lip and tongue. I ordered black and red stretch terry from fabrics.com. Hopefully they should arrive next week. There should be plenty of fabric left over if I have to redo them if/when I find the correct pink cloth.

I hope to work on him a little each day.
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Jun 5 2015, 03:40 AM
Oh, I'm not destroying him. These bots are kind of like a car. They were made for the commercial environment, so it's possible to break them down to replace parts. I'll be putting him back together once his eyes are repaired. I needed to take his head apart to get to his eyes so I can fix them. They were in terrible shape:

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No I know, I know. It's just when some people restore, They try to destroy it sometime for parts or pieces.
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Jun 5 2015, 05:09 PM
No I know, I know. It's just when some people restore, They try to destroy it sometime for parts or pieces.
Some are in such bad condition or missing so many parts restoring them is just not feasible. Their best use is as parts donors for other bots in better condition. I suspect a lot of the RAE bots that have come up for sale recently on eBay are beyond the point of restoring, but that's the owners' call.

This bot's problems are fixable, so he'll be running again. Hopefully soon.
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Jun 5 2015, 06:10 PM
Mr. Cheese E. Chuck
Jun 5 2015, 05:09 PM
No I know, I know. It's just when some people restore, They try to destroy it sometime for parts or pieces.
Some are in such bad condition or missing so many parts restoring them is just not feasible. Their best use is as parts donors for other bots in better condition. I suspect a lot of the RAE bots that have come up for sale recently on eBay are beyond the point of restoring, but that's the owners' call.

This bot's problems are fixable, so he'll be running again. Hopefully soon.
Can you tell Vega Nova that i want dance party 1999 showtape on Showbizpizza.com? I use all mp4 converters and nothing works when I burn it. Show biz Pizza stuff works perfectly fine.
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Jun 5 2015, 10:35 PM
Can you tell Vega Nova that i want dance party 1999 showtape on Showbizpizza.com? I use all mp4 converters and nothing works when I burn it. Show biz Pizza stuff works perfectly fine.
I'd recommend sending him a PM or contacting him through Facebook.
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Jun 5 2015, 02:25 AM
He looks a lot worse now. Tore his head down today to start working on his eyes.

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When I was taking his eyelids off, I found one of the posts that holds them on over the eyes is missing a split washer. I wonder if that was the cause of all the iris damage? Managed to get his irises off in one piece. Went down to the library (a 50 mile drive) and found they close the 3D printing lab early on the first Thursday of the month. So that's gonna have to wait until next week. The trip wasn't a total loss, though. I did manage to find a really close match for the dark blue.

The whites of his eyes are also really bad. Whoever painted them did a terrible job.

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I'm going to sand or strip them before I repaint. I found a flat, off-white spray paint I'm going to try to repaint the whites. Now I just need to figure out how to get them off the mech.

I also found a replacement egg for his nose. The fabric is due in on Monday according to UPS.
I like all the pictures. It really gives a good view of the endoskeleton mech of the PTT bots. I've shown them to a few people I know in real life who were curious about animatronics.


It's awesome that your library has 3D printers. No library I know of has anything that cool in it. I've only ever seen one 3D printer in a high-end computer store in my area.

Sounds like he's gonna be looking like his good old self in no time. Was his head hard to take off?
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Jun 6 2015, 03:31 AM
I like all the pictures. It really gives a good view of the endoskeleton mech of the PTT bots. I've shown them to a few people I know in real life who were curious about animatronics.


It's awesome that your library has 3D printers. No library I know of has anything that cool in it. I've only ever seen one 3D printer in a high-end computer store in my area.

Sounds like he's gonna be looking like his good old self in no time. Was his head hard to take off?
The front part of his head is held on by standoff bolts that align with holes in the mech. You just screw on a hex bolt and washer on the other side.

The designers tried to keep the hardware and fittings on the bots standard so they would be easy to replace. Most of them are still in use today. Which is a good thing because his eyelids are held to the cylinder with a pin and pair of C-lock washers and even though I thought I had a good grip on it one of them went pwinging off to parts unknown. I have the worst luck with those things. Fortunately Lowe's had them for about $0.65 apiece. I ended up buying about half a dozen just in case.
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I don't know what's different about that Chuck's face, but I REALLY LIKE IT.
edit: i think its that its smaller in proportion to the body and his ears are erect.

also i like his happy little jig arms too
Edited by Poprock Balboa, Jun 6 2015, 07:37 PM.
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I don't think his body is really smaller. It looks like the body fur isn't fastened in the back so it's just hanging open on the sides, making his body look fatter and taller than it is.

Where did this pic come from, BTW?
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Patrick Boots CEC

The Cheesevention X FB Page when they were setting up. The Front might not have been fastened to the back, though.
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Jun 6 2015, 07:53 PM
I don't think his body is really smaller. It looks like the body fur isn't fastened in the back so it's just hanging open on the sides, making his body look fatter and taller than it is.

Where did this pic come from, BTW?
I meant the head is smaller in proportion to the body. Did I make a typo? Whoops if I did!

If you made a typo [i think you meant head?] his cheeks don't touch the edges of his shoulders it doesn't look like, which yours appears to?

I think you're right, it's not smaller, but it looks smaller. That's why it looks more appealing, I guess!
also his ears are dumbo rat ears and thats just nice
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Jun 6 2015, 08:01 PM
80sgirl
Jun 6 2015, 07:53 PM
I don't think his body is really smaller. It looks like the body fur isn't fastened in the back so it's just hanging open on the sides, making his body look fatter and taller than it is.

Where did this pic come from, BTW?
I meant the head is smaller in proportion to the body. Did I make a typo? Whoops if I did!

If you made a typo [i think you meant head?] his cheeks don't touch the edges of his shoulders it doesn't look like, which yours appears to? Iunno man I just ate like, four tomatoes and a watermelon, I'm halfway into a food coma.
If you measure proportions using the head height from the neck to the bottom of the body fur piece, the cosmetics have the same proportions as mine. The irises also look a lot bigger. They're probably from a full-body bot.

This isn't really a bot though. I can tell by looking at the base and the way his arms are posed. It looks like Chuck's cosmetics on some kind of frame.
Edited by 80sgirl, Jun 6 2015, 08:08 PM.
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Yeah, you're right.
I'm really bad with sighting proportions without measuring them!

The point is, that way the cosmetics are making it look, it looks really nice, haha.

Yeah, that does look like a frame.
Edited by Poprock Balboa, Jun 6 2015, 08:21 PM.
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Yeah, his ears don't stay up on their own though. They don't have any wire in them or anything. The hat was what made them stand up. Even in vintage pics/videos taken during showtapes where he wore alternate outfits with no hat have him with floppy ears. These must have been tied or pinned.

But speaking of bots... Nasty old paint coming off!

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Hope to repaint them tomorrow.
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It's good the eyes are actually getting fixed! It must have been years of rat glaucoma, haha.
I'm sure you'll do way better than the person they paid to do em.
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Jun 5 2015, 11:07 PM
Mr. Cheese E. Chuck
Jun 5 2015, 10:35 PM
Can you tell Vega Nova that i want dance party 1999 showtape on Showbizpizza.com? I use all mp4 converters and nothing works when I burn it. Show biz Pizza stuff works perfectly fine.
I'd recommend sending him a PM or contacting him through Facebook.
OK Then.
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Good job on restoring him so far.

Though I'm pretty sure it's against the forum rules to post naked rats...
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Pretty new eyes.

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We'll have to see how the spray paint holds up, but so far I like it.
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Jun 8 2015, 07:32 AM
Pretty new eyes.

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We'll have to see how the spray paint holds up, but so far I like it.
What are those 2 holes where the irises are?
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Jun 8 2015, 09:36 AM
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Jun 8 2015, 07:32 AM
Pretty new eyes.

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We'll have to see how the spray paint holds up, but so far I like it.
What are those 2 holes where the irises are?
My guess is they were drilled to reduce weight.
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