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Going to CEI this Winter!
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I'm going to Creative Engineering this winter! I'm going to film lots of video, in a very cool way! I'm going with my friend, my dad, and my grandma (who introduced me to the RAE :billybob: ) and we're going to film with a three cam setup for the RAE show! My friend is going to film stage left (Rolfe and Earl), I'm going to film center stage (Dook, Fatz, Beach Bear, and Mitzi), and my dad is going to film stage right (Billy Bob and Looney Bird)!
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Hope you have fun there i hear Aaron is a really nice person :)

If you have not already gone yet could you ask Aaron a question for me :choochoo:

I heard the Tin man in Creative Engineering Inc Wizard of oz show uses the same Metal Frame work as Mitzi if you don't know what that it is its a Endoskeleton i want to know this since i am planning on buying a Mitzi soon an I would buy a Tin Man mask and put it on my Mitzi :D
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Hey!! Thats great going to CEI!! I'm too far away for me though!! Have fun!!
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BeachBearFanSppIa
Jul 12 2015, 07:58 PM
Hope you have fun there i hear Aaron is a really nice person :)

If you have not already gone yet could you ask Aaron a question for me :choochoo:

I heard the Tin man in Creative Engineering Inc Wizard of oz show uses the same Metal Frame work as Mitzi if you don't know what that it is its a Endoskeleton i want to know this since i am planning on buying a Mitzi soon an I would buy a Tin Man mask and put it on my Mitzi :D
The Tin Man is not similar to Mitzi in any way. He can bend his arms fully. Mitzi can only do it foward.
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Jul 12 2015, 08:53 PM
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Jul 12 2015, 07:58 PM
Hope you have fun there i hear Aaron is a really nice person :)

If you have not already gone yet could you ask Aaron a question for me :choochoo:

I heard the Tin man in Creative Engineering Inc Wizard of oz show uses the same Metal Frame work as Mitzi if you don't know what that it is its a Endoskeleton i want to know this since i am planning on buying a Mitzi soon an I would buy a Tin Man mask and put it on my Mitzi :D
The Tin Man is not similar to Mitzi in any way. He can bend his arms fully. Mitzi can only do it foward.
Well actually they have movements that are very alike Mitzi and Tin man can both raise there full arm up to a T Pose and bend there arm where a human elbow would bend this all can be seen in the Only footage of Tin man and varius photos of Mitzi and showtapes
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Jul 12 2015, 08:53 PM
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Jul 12 2015, 07:58 PM
Hope you have fun there i hear Aaron is a really nice person :)

If you have not already gone yet could you ask Aaron a question for me :choochoo:

I heard the Tin man in Creative Engineering Inc Wizard of oz show uses the same Metal Frame work as Mitzi if you don't know what that it is its a Endoskeleton i want to know this since i am planning on buying a Mitzi soon an I would buy a Tin Man mask and put it on my Mitzi :D
The Tin Man is not similar to Mitzi in any way. He can bend his arms fully. Mitzi can only do it foward.
Well actually they have movements that are very alike Mitzi and Tin man can both raise there full arm up to a T Pose and bend there arm where a human elbow would bend this all can be seen in the Only footage of Tin man and varius photos of Mitzi and showtapes


Did you not read what he said? The Tin Man can bend his arm fully in a way Mitzi is incapable of- hers only bend in a certain way to a certain degree while the Tin Man does not have those /specific/ restrictions.

Just because motions are similar does not mean they are the same. That's like saying a pony and a zebra are the same because their legs are jointed the same way.
Edited by Poprock Balboa, Jul 12 2015, 10:13 PM.
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Jul 12 2015, 08:53 PM
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Jul 12 2015, 07:58 PM
Hope you have fun there i hear Aaron is a really nice person :)

If you have not already gone yet could you ask Aaron a question for me :choochoo:

I heard the Tin man in Creative Engineering Inc Wizard of oz show uses the same Metal Frame work as Mitzi if you don't know what that it is its a Endoskeleton i want to know this since i am planning on buying a Mitzi soon an I would buy a Tin Man mask and put it on my Mitzi :D
The Tin Man is not similar to Mitzi in any way. He can bend his arms fully. Mitzi can only do it foward.
Well actually they have movements that are very alike Mitzi and Tin man can both raise there full arm up to a T Pose and bend there arm where a human elbow would bend this all can be seen in the Only footage of Tin man and varius photos of Mitzi and showtapes

Did you not read what he said? The Tin Man can bend his arm fully in a way Mitzi is incapable of- hers only bend in a certain way to a certain degree while the Tin Man does not have those /specific/ restrictions.

Just because motions are similar does not mean they are the same. That's like saying a pony and a zebra are the same because their legs are jointed the same way.
I really don't know how you guys know all this when there is only one footage of Tin Man that i know of and tin man only raises his arms up and down bends his elbows rotate his arms "Mitzi does that" about everything Mitzi does and you also got to think they both have different cosmetics. I am sorry if i am wrong and if you think I sound mad I just heard someone say that, Btw where do you know all this :choochoo: i have only seen the only footage of tin man that i know of is there more footage or something :choochoo:
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In the footage he obviously does it to a degree that Mitzi is confirmed by all footage of her and all owned copies of her /completely incapable of/. Mitzi can only bend her elbows a little, while the Tin Man, from what I recall, can bend his to nearly a 90 degree angle-
Which Mitzi cannot.

It's just plain common sense and logical observation- you put two and two together from what you know-
Tin Man's far greater degree of elbow bend angle as shown in said footage vs Mitzi's far lesser degree of elbow bend angle.

I'm gonna go review the footage to be sure, however.

EDIT: typo

Here's some proof that they are not the same in any way shape or form-
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[Mitzi source- http://animatronicappreciation.tumblr.com/post/116756367798/csailorpinklady18-antelopeans-the-rock-afire]
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Hold on i am making a gif to counter argue with a three stage Helen which is a Mitzi Metal Frame Work

I will be editing this comment to ad it soon so hold on

I had to post it on my Twitter https://twitter.com/spp_ia

Look at Helens Left arm it is on my right but it would be her left
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Dude, just admit you were wrong- there's not any shame in it. You've already been given evidence that they are not the same mech, especially considering the Tin Man existed a very long time before Mitzi was even a concept.
Mitzi's elbow does not bend i na way that brings her wrist that close to her shoulder, unlike the Tin Man's does. What more evidence do you need? It's the same mech for Helen, it doesn't make any difference.

But you'll believe what you want to believe, and I can't change that. You do you, I'll do me.

EDIT: Saw the gif [or what I could- the Helen image. MY internet is too slow to process gifs. Thanks. I'm going to assume you used the image on the tin man from my example?]
You're not making a fair comparison. In my image, both characters' arms are DOWN and BY THEIR SIDE, with their elbows bent upward. By using an image of Helen with her arms up, you are making an unfair comparison.

AAAA I'm sorry, I said I was gonna leave it. I'm gonna end my participation now, so sorry for derailing this thread!
We'll just agree to disagree,m and that's fine by me. Thanks for the civil debate, friendo! It shouldn't be a debate, but I found it thrilling and enjoyable nonetheless! <3
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I asked Aaron and he said he doesn't know, but 'they built a custom Scarecrow, so he assumes the Tin Man was custom too.'

I'll look at them and compare them for you the best I can. Obviously I can't take their cosmetics off to know for sure.
Okay I just took a look at Tin Man up close and his arm does bend farther up than Mitzi's. He is also smaller than her, especially his head. His eyes are half the size of hers and his head is a lot tinier. I think him and the Scarecrow were both custom animatronics.
Edited by Cavity Sam, Jul 13 2015, 01:33 AM.
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Jun 21 2015, 07:27 PM
I'm going to Creative Engineering this winter! I'm going to film lots of video, in a very cool way! I'm going with my friend, my dad, and my grandma (who introduced me to the RAE :billybob: ) and we're going to film with a three cam setup for the RAE show! My friend is going to film stage left (Rolfe and Earl), I'm going to film center stage (Dook, Fatz, Beach Bear, and Mitzi), and my dad is going to film stage right (Billy Bob and Looney Bird)!
Can you ask what the name of the Moon Rockers counterpart of Choo-Choo? :choochoo:
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Jun 21 2015, 07:27 PM
I'm going to Creative Engineering this winter! I'm going to film lots of video, in a very cool way! I'm going with my friend, my dad, and my grandma (who introduced me to the RAE :billybob: ) and we're going to film with a three cam setup for the RAE show! My friend is going to film stage left (Rolfe and Earl), I'm going to film center stage (Dook, Fatz, Beach Bear, and Mitzi), and my dad is going to film stage right (Billy Bob and Looney Bird)!
Can you ask what the name of the Moon Rockers counterpart of Choo-Choo? :choochoo:
Sure thing! :billybob:
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I think I heard somewhere that someone already asked the names of the other Moonrockers and Aaron said he didn't remember. I may be wrong, however.
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Jul 15 2015, 10:33 PM
I think I heard somewhere that someone already asked the names of the other Moonrockers and Aaron said he didn't remember. I may be wrong, however.
I believe Mac Tonight Knows but they wont tell us I think :-/ Some people said it is Radar and Queezer but Who knows
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Me and Aaron know but we are keeping it a secret for now. We tell people that come for tours!
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I think I heard somewhere that someone already asked the names of the other Moonrockers and Aaron said he didn't remember. I may be wrong, however.
I believe Mac Tonight Knows but they wont tell us I think :-/ Some people said it is Radar and Queezer but Who knows
The ones we DO know are Quasar [not queezer] and Princess Halley.

It's safe to presume that the others are named after celestial phenomena, but that's my opinion.
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I think I heard somewhere that someone already asked the names of the other Moonrockers and Aaron said he didn't remember. I may be wrong, however.
I believe Mac Tonight Knows but they wont tell us I think :-/ Some people said it is Radar and Queezer but Who knows
The ones we DO know are Quasar [not queezer] and Princess Halley.

It's safe to presume that the others are named after celestial phenomena, but that's my opinion.
Queezer is rumored to be the Drummer or Pianist that why i said Queezer
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Aaron calls the Moonrockers Choo Choo counterpart 'volcano baby.' I don't know if that's his name or if he even had one. The other two names begin with 'O' and the correct spelling for the other two are Quazar and Princess Halley.
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I'm not going to feed into rumors, but that IS interesting. I doubt that's true though- it's just a poor idea to have two characters in the same group have names that similar.

But this IS Aaron- who knows what could happen? /jazz hands/

EDIT: MA Tonight posted before me haha, didn't see that.
Yeah, my "s' in quazar was a typo.

omg Volcano Baby
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