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Showtapes, bootlegs and unauthorized reprints
Topic Started: Oct 4 2015, 06:30 PM (9,759 Views)
80sgirl
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It's come to the attention of the mods and admin that some board members have been attempting to sell bootlegged showtape copies on the forum via PM. Selling unauthorized copies of copyrighted material such as showtapes and masks has always been against the code of conduct.

Some of the admin work for CEC Entertainment, and the legal department has indicated they do not want anyone copying or selling showtapes. Probably due to issues related to licensing and distribution rights. Unauthorized copies of copyrighted material are also a problem. Reprints made for CheeseVention are considered authorized. Everything else is out. It's possible the company could cause us all kinds of legal problems and get the board shut down if push came to shove.

This isn't the first time this issue has come up. So unfortunately we're going to have to lay down the law. Anyone found selling showtapes (legal or copied) or unauthorized copies of copyrighted materials through the forum will receive a warning on the first offense. The second offense will result in an automatic permanent ban. This applies to ALL copyrighted material, whether it comes from CEC Entertainment, Creative Engineering or any other source.

This is a serious issue and a real concern. We don't like being serious here. It makes us cranky. So stop it.
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80sgirl
Oct 4 2015, 06:30 PM
It's come to the attention of the mods and admin that some board members have been attempting to sell bootlegged showtape copies on the forum via PM. Selling unauthorized copies of copyrighted material such as showtapes and masks has always been against the code of conduct.

Some of the admin work for CEC Entertainment, and the legal department has indicated they do not want anyone copying or selling showtapes. Probably due to issues related to licensing and distribution rights. Unauthorized copies of copyrighted material are also a problem. Reprints made for CheeseVention are considered authorized. Everything else is out. It's possible the company could cause us all kinds of legal problems and get the board shut down if push came to shove.

This isn't the first time this issue has come up. So unfortunately we're going to have to lay down the law. Anyone found selling showtapes (legal or copied) or unauthorized copies of copyrighted materials through the forum will receive a warning on the first offense. The second offense will result in an automatic permanent ban. This applies to ALL copyrighted material, whether it comes from CEC Entertainment, Creative Engineering or any other source.

This is a serious issue and a real concern. We don't like being serious here. It makes us cranky. So stop it.
80s girl is there anyway I can remove the messages from this person from my inbox
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80sgirl
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Oct 4 2015, 06:43 PM
80s girl is there anyway I can remove the messages from this person from my inbox
Yes, you just need to archive it first.

Go to your Inbox, check the box next to the title and click the Archive button at the bottom of the page.

Then click the Archive link on the left side.

Check the box next to the message and click the Delete button at the bottom of the page.
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CECSPPFan
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So Gabe (pizzacam) is okay to us? He sells CEC/SPP showtapes from the past.
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Dr. Wink
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I'm not sure... they could be bootlegs.
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Cyberhawk
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Oct 4 2015, 08:09 PM
So Gabe (pizzacam) is okay to us? He sells CEC/SPP showtapes from the past.
The board member in question was pm Ing members asking people to buy copied show tapes from pizzacam which for all intensive purposes are bootlegs
Edited by Cyberhawk, Oct 4 2015, 08:28 PM.
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VJ
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This decision was agreed upon by all of the mods and admins, it was not just one person's decision. We are taking this very seriously so please abide.

Thank you.
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RetroGirl
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As 80sgirl said, show tapes are copyrighted material. In some cases, the copyright owners won't pursue any action because they have no further use for the tapes or don't care about maintaining the protections. In other cases, they will pursue legal action.

CEC can take legal action to protect copyrights, and have done so in the past. This board is not going to make a judgement call about which tapes CEC will object to and which tapes they won't. Our job is to protect this board and it's users, not provide bootleggers an outlet for illegal sales.

Therefore… no bootlegs. From anyone, no matter how "famous" in the fandom.
Edited by RetroGirl, Oct 4 2015, 10:24 PM.
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CEC Master
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Giving you info about the Show!
I was unaware of any form of bootlegging that occurred in the past. I was also unaware that what he was doing now was for own personal benefit, and potentially against the law. I had only intended on helping a friend, but any form of legal matter comes first.
Edited by CEC Master, Apr 23 2016, 12:27 PM.
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Cyberhawk
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is cec okay with what pizzacam dose he seems to have been copying and colllecting show tapes for years ?
Edited by Cyberhawk, Oct 5 2015, 05:53 PM.
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HipsterChuckE
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Whoa.I was gone for 2 day and now bootlegging showtape happens.Its remind me of the 90's when you wanted to recorded your show and you recorded on VHS. But this sound very trouble some
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Dr. Wink
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All we can do right now is wait and pray that the showtapes will be back on YouTube sometime soon.
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AD Machine
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Are Pizzacam shows bootleg????!
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Dr. Wink
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Yeah, he's selling them by PM
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Patrick Boots CEC

[sidenote]Pizzacam has sold us past shows that were used in the store. AFAIK that's fine. Because another member was saying that pizzacam was selling copies, it is not fine.[/sidenote]
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DinnerThriller
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I doubt it but lets just hope CEC Entertainment or Department 18 decides to makes a YouTube channel thats filled with nothing but past showtapes (either as a whole (without the non cec-related intermissions) or split into 4 videos of each segment of that specific showtape) and maybe some behind the scenes of selected CEC music videos
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DinnerThriller
Dec 12 2015, 10:41 AM
I doubt it but lets just hope CEC Entertainment or Department 18 decides to makes a YouTube channel thats filled with nothing but past showtapes (either as a whole (without the non cec-related intermissions) or split into 4 videos of each segment of that specific showtape) and maybe some behind the scenes of selected CEC music videos
That would be great
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80sgirl
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DinnerThriller
Dec 12 2015, 10:41 AM
I doubt it but lets just hope CEC Entertainment or Department 18 decides to makes a YouTube channel thats filled with nothing but past showtapes (either as a whole (without the non cec-related intermissions) or split into 4 videos of each segment of that specific showtape) and maybe some behind the scenes of selected CEC music videos
I'd like to see something like that, but I think they would have to renegotiate copyright on the parodies.

So unfortunately it's not likely to happen for licensed stuff.
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80sgirl
Dec 12 2015, 11:16 AM
DinnerThriller
Dec 12 2015, 10:41 AM
I doubt it but lets just hope CEC Entertainment or Department 18 decides to makes a YouTube channel thats filled with nothing but past showtapes (either as a whole (without the non cec-related intermissions) or split into 4 videos of each segment of that specific showtape) and maybe some behind the scenes of selected CEC music videos
I'd like to see something like that, but I think they would have to renegotiate copyright on the parodies.

So unfortunately it's not likely to happen for licensed stuff.
if only they'd work it out someway or another in the future, and probably have right amount of money

but like you said: not likely to happen
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Cyberhawk
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Dec 12 2015, 10:41 AM
I doubt it but lets just hope CEC Entertainment or Department 18 decides to makes a YouTube channel thats filled with nothing but past showtapes (either as a whole (without the non cec-related intermissions) or split into 4 videos of each segment of that specific showtape) and maybe some behind the scenes of selected CEC music videos
unless it was all cec originals they whould have to re licence eveything which would be expensive and a huge hassle i do not think creative engineering whould have the legal right to use many of the old showtapes if they where to use the rae commercially in the way cec is doing
Edited by Cyberhawk, Dec 12 2015, 11:15 PM.
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