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| Post #1 Aug 1 2013, 08:43 PM | flarecde |
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I've been writing stuff ever since I was little. Most of it is crap. But my opinion of everything I do is crap. So I'll post my crap, so other people can tell me it's crap, and I can go cry in a corner. I'll post some of the random story stuff I get around to actually typing up here. I imagine most of it won't be AT related, but some of it will be. If you're interested, take a look, and please let me know any opinions or suggestions you have. Or just tell me it's crap. At least it's wasting space on someone else's server, and not mine :P. (NOTE: If I'm being serious, be very, very worried.) The title is intended to be floating little bird, since I discovered my screen name is actually a valid word in Hymmnos and I happen to have a thing about birds. But more than likely it's just headache inducing. I barely have mastery over English, after all. |
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~ flarecde Reality is nothing; Perception is everything. [hymmnos]Wee yant ga accrroad akata tes yor[/hymmnos] | |
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| Post #2 Aug 1 2013, 08:44 PM | flarecde |
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Ar tonelico – Post AT3 modified setting NOTE: Obviously going to be AT spoilers. Read at your own risk. One thing I’ve loved to do since a child is take existing settings and play characters out in them. Since then, I’ve also really gotten into world building. Normally I’ve very hesitant to mess with other people’s settings, particularly in terms of adding to them. But AT3 leaves off at a nice point where you could take the world in any number of ways. Plus, although I’d love to be proven otherwise, I don’t think the setting will be revisited in an official manner. My general idea was to expand several hundred years after the end of AT3. I had a basic character in mind I wanted to create, and needed to flesh out a solid background. I wanted to stick as close as possible as what was canon during and after the game. So I came to a few base facts: Sol Ciel * Ar tonelico (the first tower) itself is still the primary source for song magic * Shurelia is still administrator of the tower * The Wings of Horus are still floating, and are probably the capital of the area Metafalss * The second tower has been mostly deconstructed, with only Pastalia, Infel Phira + Metafalica, and Sol Marta remaining * Metafalica is probably the primary area of habitation – particularly for IPDs who are unwilling to give up song magic * Frelia is still around, although unsure on her exact role Sol Cluster * The third tower is completely gone, except for the Tower of Origin * Tyria is now returned to a physical body * Most or all of Sol Cluster’s populace has moved to Ar Ciel’s surface, as the loss of the tower means no climate control * Somehow the Tower of Origin sustains the existence of the Reyvateils, song magic of limited capacity? With the basis set, I wanted to make some extrapolations. The biggest of these is centered partly on the character I wanted to create. Sasha, with help from Krusche and Shurelia, creates a network of satellites to provide enhanced coverage of Ar Ciel’s surface for song magic. It allows for the relay and amplification of song magic originating from Ar Tonelico, Infel Phira, or the Tower of Origin. It can carry both standard and Pastalie dialects. Basis for this seems solid. Sasha has already lofted several sattelites capable of relaying IPD song magic over long distances by the end of AT3. Krusche’s access to materials and Shurelia’s knowledge of Ar Tonelico itself would probably end up being sufficient to at least put the wheels into motion within a single lifetime. Such a network would be very beneficial to third generation Reyvateils, and absolutely essential to Betas if they wanted to travel. This network is then administrated by three selected Reyvateils, one from each region. They are specifically created for this purpose, but are otherwise standard Betas. Three are selected in part to maintain a balance of power, to prevent the abuse of power by any single Reyvateil intentional or otherwise, and to prevent failure in the case of loss of one of the SH servers. Specific administrator only commands for the system are as follows: EXEC_ECLIPSE/. Initiates a shutdown of all primary functions. Similar to EXEC_SUSPEND/., and is automatically trigged by EXEC_SUSPEND/.. The system is left in a standby mode where the only reactivation by singing the song a second time by the originating Reyvateil, or both of the other administrators. If all three administrators sing this, a full shutdown is triggered and the entire constellation deorbits. EXEC_CORONA/. An override function. Temporarily shuts down primary functions of nearby overhead units and redirects all output to the singer. Multiple singers redirect a larger portion of the network. (others to follow?) A second premise is that, although Ar Ciel accepted the new heart in the end, if didn’t necessarily entirely forgive humanity for the mess they made. As such, monsters and other aggressive life are quite common on Ar Ciel’s surface, necessitating the continued use of song magic, including both red and blue magic types. Lastly, there is the character I’m working on, my custom Reyvateil. I don’t have a ton yet, not even a name necessarily. I suck at names. But here’s the general premise: She is one of the three administrators for the satellite network. A beta type created for this specific purpose, she has however led a somewhat full life. However, she is now over 140 years old, very close to the age limit. She needs to create a successor. And… out of time. I'll post more another day. |
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~ flarecde Reality is nothing; Perception is everything. [hymmnos]Wee yant ga accrroad akata tes yor[/hymmnos] | |
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| Post #3 Aug 3 2013, 05:54 PM | Utsuho Lazy |
| This is quite interesting. I was surprised to find that it's actually somewhat similar to my own post-At3 settings, specially the "Most or all of Sol Cluster’s populace has moved to Ar ciel’s surface" part, which would open up a lot of new ideas involving the settlers hard at work turning desolated land into inhabitable environment. I would be really interested in seeing how you'd deal with that theme, as well as whether you'd decide if there would be bad blood between the land dwellers and the tower dwellers, since that's one particular subject that I used to work on in my own fanfics. |
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| Post #4 Aug 5 2013, 05:12 PM | flarecde |
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I envision Ar Ciel's surface as being somewhat like a wild west setting. For the most part it's very much an unexplored frontier that is only started to work it's way back to habitability. Monsters are everywhere too, causing trouble. Sol Cluster's population could probably be broken down into two groups: 1) An integrated group of second and newly born third generation Reyvateils and humans. These are the people who managed to get over past grudges and probably settled somewhat near the tower initially since the Reyvateils couldn't travel far. 2) Humans, particularly those from the former Great Fang region, who did not get over their hatred for Reyvateils. They were forced to settle farther from the (former) tower. Lacking the protection song magic provides, they are under constant threat from monsters, and have probably become somewhat militant. I considered a group of Reyvateils who did not let go of their prejudices towards humanity, but I found it rather difficult to envision. In AT3 after Harvestasha Vista is shut down, even the Reyvateils in Clustania seem to lose a lot of their prejudice and become even somewhat friendly towards the end of the game. I seem to recall reading somewhere that Reyvateils are inherently good natured. Without Harvestasha's negative influence, most or all of them would have stopped being human haters. Other points of possible conflict or interest: * Telomere extension, and the question as to whether Tyria should divulge her knowledge of the procedure. * Shurelia's continued administration of Ar tonelico, including increasing her connectivity level, or replacing her. * Leadership in the Sol Ciel region (Platina vs. Tenba / Church vs. Shurelia) * Reyvateils vs. Humans, redux. Should and how are Reyvateils controlled. * Diquility supply in Sol Cluster. They previously didn't have many/any third gens, so it's possible they never developed it. * Metafalica xenophobia? A very close knit society would be wary of outsiders. * Continued production of Beta Reyvateils and Beta rights. Should they be created for a purpose? Should they be created at all? * Remaining consequences from Border Disease? Plus more as I think of it. I'm still working on my character, as I usually build out the setting first. I don't really have a plot in mind yet, as I'm just doing this for fun. Maybe I'll come up with something! |
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~ flarecde Reality is nothing; Perception is everything. [hymmnos]Wee yant ga accrroad akata tes yor[/hymmnos] | |
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| Post #5 Aug 5 2013, 07:35 PM | aquagon |
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As far as Diquility is concerned, it was invented by Archia and commercialized by them in Sol Cluster. However, I don't see why Metafalica would get all xenophobic with Frelia and Luca serving as diplomats (particularly Frelia, given her relationship with Shurelia and Tyria), or why anyone would want to get Shurelia replaced, considering that would need an Origin Reyvateil with I/O connections to the Tower and access to the SH Server, both of which are impossible to make nowadays. Similarly, Telomere extension is something that should be left as a forgotten procedure, as it either needs a donator (as in the case of Tyria giving hers' to Saki and Finnel), shortening the life span of the one giving the Telomere, or the Reyvateil to lengthen her Telomere beyond their natural length, which translates into such a horrible pain that the receiver of the treatment that she would be unable to even walk by herself. And anyway, it can't be done now that the Third Tower and its Rinkernator are gone: the Rinkernator of the Third Tower was stated to be the only place where said procedure could be done. As for future conflicts between the regions or their people, I have to remind everyone that when we left off Ar Ciel for the last time, we had the three regions governed by benevolent rulers (Sol Ciel by a coalition formed by Shurelia, Radolf and Ayano; Metafalica by Cloche and Luca, and the remains of Sol Cluster by a coalition made between Gengai, Akane and Richa) and the aftereffects of Phantasmagoria and Visiondance Plugins echoing throughout the world. Between the first reinforcing positive and helpful feelings, and the second making people around the world join in a common celebration once per year, I find it hard to believe that conflicts would spring anywhere close to a century or two after the ending of the games. |
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| Post #6 Aug 5 2013, 11:28 PM | flarecde |
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Ah, I forgot about the whole diquility in Archia thing. Come to think of it, the doctor's sister was a third gen. I know Archia claimed they had a way to supress Reyvateil awakening as a front for their experiments, but did they actually succeed at that? Plus, were the IPD or Border Disease issues ever solved? My memory sucks, the more I put in, the more that gets pushed out the other end! My intention was to set several hundred years post AT3. Somewhere between 250 and 400 years. Thinking on that though, given the rate of human expansion in our world, chances are Ar Ciel's surface would already be well on it's way to being repopulated. I may need to rethink the distribution of people. Especially since they had flight and far more advanced technology. As far as Phantasmagoria and Visiondance (which I had to look up), that would certainly put a damper on anyone trying to introduce conflict for story's sake. It makes for a nice ending, but it's an ending :/. Although, the songs themselves could be considered a form of mind control, I could see some people not being happy about that (until they were forced to eat their happy pill... err song.) Maybe? Plus, as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. People do bad stuff all the time because they believe they are doing good. Thanks for the info Aquagon, definitely gives me some interesting things to think about. Edited by flarecde, Aug 5 2013, 11:29 PM.
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~ flarecde Reality is nothing; Perception is everything. [hymmnos]Wee yant ga accrroad akata tes yor[/hymmnos] | |
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| Post #7 Aug 6 2013, 12:07 AM | aquagon |
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Yes, the blocking operation was indeed invented in the end and could be used successfully by any Third Generations that didn't want these abilities for some reason or other, according to what Tsuchiya himself said in the Technical Data Compilation Room. And the IPD issue was already solved with the creation of Metafalica, thanks to relocating the Cosmospheres of the IPDs into good sectors (they used to have part of them in bad sectors). For more details on how the outbreaks work, you might want to give this a read (where Infel answers a question on them): http://artonelico.wikia.com/wiki/ARM_Backup/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Issue_51 For the Border Disease, unfortunately no solutions have been found so far beyond keeping the people in a stress-free envinroment, as extreme emotions are what cause the disease to develop. Of course, this could be remedied if their Reyvateil natures could be modified to point to a valid SH Server address and making sure it doesn't get overwritten with the birth or awakening of a new Reyvateil. And while it could be indeed considered as a way of mind control, taking in account they actually allow people to still have free wills while minimizing conflicts due to making people try to understand each other first instead of choosing violence as their first alternative, I don't think it's much problem, unlike say, something like Soporific or Infel Phira's Torcarrol Mode, not to mention it was made out of the wishes and feelings of everyone in Sol Ciel (which I think was expanded into the entirety of Ar Ciel when it was sung again in preparation for Visiondance Plugins). However, Tsuchiya also added that if you're looking at the song's effect from that kind of viewpoint, he couldn't help but feel sorry about everyone in Ar Ciel if you only considered it that way. |
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