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Cerphres
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Apr 9 2013, 09:00 PM Post #1 |
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Ok so bare with me here, this will probably end up being quite a long post. Also note that this is going to go no where, these are my thoughts on the matter, nothing more. Lets say you have just seen yourself from the future.. A you from the future has gone back in time to see you, this then means that there is already a future in which there is already a way to time travel. So right now, in our present time there is a future where we can time travel, yes? So basically right now, there are two time lines over lapping each other.. because there is right now, and there is a future right now that yourself has come back from. This means that for time travel to happen, it has to have already happened. Have I lost you yet? If not keep reading :p Predetermination. Lets say that you were to travel into the future, does this mean that the future is already predetermined and has already happened? Or else what am I travelling into, does the future create itself to be there for me to appear into when I travel to it? The same applies for the reverse. If I were to travel back in time, that would mean that for the past there is already a future (my present) in which case everything is already predetermined, I know this because I just came from it. Does this then mean that since creation (which ever theory you want to go with) there has always been a future? because you would technically be able to travel to creation point.. Does this then mean that all times possible are happening right now? Is our entire existance built up apon an instant the moment everything was created. Just a spark... Every timeline was created because we can travel to it so it must have always been this way. Are we just a split second? This would also explain why we can't go back in time and say, stop the world wars from happening. Because the fact that they have happened means that we can't, or else we would have done so already resulting in it not have happening in the first place. And if that was the case then there would be no need to time travel back to stop anything, because nothing happened to stop. It gets confusing. Space. Everything has space. People, trees, oxygen even atoms and sub atomic particles. They all have a place, when one moves it doesn't simply shift from one space to the next, it moves the other things filling up space around it as it moves itself. We know this is true because if it werent then there would be gaping holes where one thing has move to a different place. One problem I have with time travel is that in most cases it implys that you simply dissapear from your own time leaving a gaping hole in space where you were filling up and then forecing yourself into a space not created for you in a different time. Though, if you were to travel back to a time where you still exists, then you could, I guess fill the space of the you in that time, seeing as you are the same existance. But does that mean you become the younger you? Or are you simply just taking its place. How do people view you? As the young ,old or current? If you were able to somehow force your way into space in a different time where you still exist, meaning you are able to see yourself, is it really you? Or is it someone that looks exactly like you and has the same genetic makeup. Because after all, you are you. If you were to punch that person in the face would you feel it? As it is you? Space/Time. To my understanding it implys that a certian time correlates to a certian place.. Like a map grid@ if you will. You have letters across the top and numbers down the side. Say the numbers are time and the letters are space. Thus by moving to this space, you move to that time. (My very basic understanding of it). This theory would mean that it isn't really time travel that is happening, It's physical travel to a specific place that has a certian time. Recycling space if you will. Lets take the graph analogy and make a new, simpler analogy. If space time were like the graph then would that mean that our past is still there? Each instant frozen in "time". Imagine a flip book. You flip the pages and the drawing on each page moves the way it was drawn to. We are the flip book, going ahead page by page. To me this means the time travel that space/time implys is simply going to a spacific page in the flip book and carrying on from there. Now think about this. We are constantly moving forwards in "time" and the past, each and every milisecond of it is a frozen point in time, or page on the flip book. If you could go back to your past, any part of it, would you be able to carry it on a different path? Start a new flip book from a page in the old one? If this is the case then i doubt it would be possible to get back to where you originally started from, as you have already gone back in time and headed down a different path. Your old current time is moving away from you at an infinite speed, just as you are moving away from it at the same speed. Travel. The things that really gets me on time travel is, how is it done? The most common theory is that you travel faster than the speed of light, as you can then travel faster than our past is getting away from us (under the Space/Time theory). But to me this doesn't make any sense. Lets say that somehow you are able to travel faster than the speed of light, and you are able to survive at that speed. How do you then direct your travel backwards in time? Time isn't a physical thing that you and just jump on and head whichever way you want. There doesn't seem to be a way at all that you are able to travel on it. All going faster than the speed of light would achieve is going really fast and traveling in physical distance, not time. Other paradoxes like the gradfather paradox (where if you were to go back in time to before you were born and kill your grandparents or even parents, would you still be born, would you still be there to kill them) in my opinion aren't even worth talking about after everything that's already been said above. Call me egotistical but I believe that everything stated above is far above those typical paradox topics that scientists and philosphers still rave about today. Time. I once got asked the question, "Does time exist?". Which really got me thinking. It sounds like a nonsense kind of question, but when you think about it, it really is quite interesting and not at all easy to answer. Is time not simply the distance from one event to the next? Whether observed or not (unless you want to get into solipsism). I guess motion in a sense is time. How do you measure movement speed without time? If nothing ever moved then there would be no time for "as long" as everything stopped moving. But "how long" would not be measurable. You only know that time is there because of basic things like moving your hand from one point to another. There is movement and that movement has a distance from when it began to when it finished. We measure that movement in what we call time (seconds, minutes, hours etc). "it took 3 seconds to move my hand from my head to the table". There is the begining event (moving my hand from my head) to the end event (my hand being on the table). Without these events (motion) to measure, there is no time. There is however one problem with motion. It is theoretically impossible for anything to move. Think of it like this; A man with a bow and arrow stands 50 meters from a target that he is trying to hit. He shoots the arrow, but before it arrives at the target 50 meters away, it must first make it half way, to 25 meters. But before it can make it to the 25 meter mark it must make it half way again to 12.5 meters The arrow must continuosly make it half way from one point to the next, and because there are an infinate amount of half way points, the arrow should techically never make it. Nothing should techinally ever move. But it does. Theoretically movement is impossible but practically it works. So time theoretically can never work, but practically can. This in my mind says that we will never understand how or why time works, it just does. On the time travel theme this begs the question, how can you go back in time when time requires motion (like moving my hand from my head to the table) and for that to happen it must be measured as "the distance from one event to the next" These events can only be measured chronologicaly as movement must happen first for time to happen thus making time travel impossible. Anyway that's enough from me, lets get some talk going. |
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14k_Et
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Apr 9 2013, 09:03 PM Post #2 |
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tbh i red the first paragraph and was like wtf am i reading.. lol |
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Newt
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Apr 9 2013, 09:15 PM Post #3 |
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to long cbf reading |
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| Tea Cup | Apr 13 2013, 08:19 AM Post #4 |
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| Zuko | Apr 14 2013, 06:41 PM Post #5 |
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yeah definately, scientists believe that for every decision you make your life splits in two and they go two seperate ways, i reckon though that the life that we are seeing now is the better one and that the other decision was worse in the future so we chose the better one =) |
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Cerphres
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Apr 14 2013, 06:50 PM Post #6 |
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They believe that, but theres more too it. They say that simply observing makes the wave form (thing you were talking about) collapse and thus we see only one reality, the one we are living in. |
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| Zuko | Apr 14 2013, 06:55 PM Post #7 |
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yeah |
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| Flavin32 | Apr 15 2013, 05:42 AM Post #8 |
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ye i read first paragraph n was like aint nobody got time for dis nigha i got bronchitis! |
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| Tea Cup | Apr 15 2013, 07:50 PM Post #9 |
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hue |
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| Flavin32 | Apr 16 2013, 05:23 AM Post #10 |
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lol have u seen the youtube video of the chick who says it lol pretty funny i think every1 in australias seen it |
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