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| Tweet Topic Started: May 9 2017, 04:21 PM (196 Views) | |
| Ardy | May 9 2017, 04:21 PM Post #1 |
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Although I walked away from the great result of meditation many years ago, I find that my compassion is increasing regardless. When I first noticed it about 10 years ago, I thought to myself you are just getting old and soft! Now, on reflection, it is not an all encompassing compassion for humanity but it is focused on the weak, you have all seen them, those whose chances of surviving this world are poor to non-existent. I have an almost overwhelming desire to help them although they mostly do not look for it or want it. Compassion, in its natural state, is an essential part of being a real human, yet when we look around there seems to be little of it amongst our fellow human animals. It seems that most prefer to display their greed and anger to get what they think they want. |
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| Simpleton | May 9 2017, 04:48 PM Post #2 |
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Compassion is a broken strategy. Empathy works much better. Perhaps empathy is what you meant? |
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| Ardy | May 9 2017, 04:56 PM Post #3 |
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Hi Simpleton. No not really. I do not wish to empathise with them but to help them. There is no shortage of empathy around, it is talked about a lot by our boys. What I am talking about is action driven by compassion. |
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| crow | May 9 2017, 05:06 PM Post #4 |
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A rocky road. Maybe there's a pure form of compassion, but I haven't seen it yet. Then again, maybe I have. In myself and my wife. Done now, done silently, done once. Edited by crow, May 9 2017, 05:07 PM.
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| Simpleton | May 9 2017, 05:15 PM Post #5 |
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As an empath I don't have a choice whether or not to empathize with the people I come into contact with, it can be disorienting. On the plus side it drives no action, I receive a signal and I can choose where to go from there, with intuition. I don't know how compassion feels, I don't have any and I don't want any from anyone. (I do know how desire feels, I would kill for some passion.) Edited by Simpleton, May 9 2017, 05:17 PM.
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| Ardy | May 10 2017, 04:42 PM Post #6 |
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Simpleton: Love the post. I was so full of passion as a young man but denied it, it's full rights. Looking back on it a few years ago I wrote an ode to how I should have given in to it. When I get my computer up and running I will post it in the poetry section. Opposite to you, I have little empathy which seems strange now I think about it. Compassion is a form of desire, so I have to be considerate in how I use it. I recognise the damaged ones straight away (is this all that's left of my meditation efforts?) and feel compelled to speak to them but I am very careful how I open this topic. I find I have a distance from them ie I am not emotional about their condition which helps. The saddest one was a young boy of 15 who had attempted suicide twice and was a relative of a friend. He was in the hands of psychiatrists and pills which is never good. I wanted him to come and live with me for a while as I could see that was the only way to save him. I was living on my own at the time and knew what his parents would have been thinking (paedophile to the max?). I had two meetings with him to talk through things. He was a great kid and smart but was dead in 3 months. |
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| Water | May 11 2017, 10:06 PM Post #7 |
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Meditation seems to have made me more empathic- though that effect seems to dwindle if the habit is lost. If empathy were an electrical circuit ego would be fouling on the voltage source terminals impeding the circuits function. Though not everybody is wired the same. I like helping people, it seems like the right thing to do. The problem is some people are fine with accepting help but are unwilling to help themselves (malice). Sad to hear about that boy Ardy, it doesn't sound like there's much you could have done. |
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| Water | May 20 2017, 05:41 PM Post #8 |
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To expound; in my experience empathy can present as a choice. The choice is between the other person or my thoughts/ego. Acceptance or thinking. It's one or the other. I don't know how the empathy works, but if space is made for it then it will fill that space. |
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| crow | May 20 2017, 06:02 PM Post #9 |
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The trick is to not make too much space. You may get more filling it than you can cope with. |
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| Water | May 20 2017, 06:11 PM Post #10 |
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That sounds exhausting. I doubt I'd be functional at my job if I was empathising with every person I came in contact with. |
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| crow | May 20 2017, 06:16 PM Post #11 |
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It's a problem I continue to have difficulty with. The turmoil most people carry around with them is a terrifying thing to one who doesn't. And empathy forms a gateway for it to do its dirt in oneself. Compassion comes in here. As bad as you might feel, after receiving empathic input, it must be very much worse for the one it originates from. That, in itself, emphasizes the value of taoism: Detachment. |
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| Ardy | May 21 2017, 02:30 PM Post #12 |
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Water: To someone who is empathetic then there is little choice. So it is more a situation where you either are or you are not. The detachment that Crow talks about, in my experience, is neither indifference nor an emotional flood. It is just an ability to look at the world and deal with what's in front of you. |
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