| Welcome to Secrets Of Life. Here you may learn, contribute, and discuss - but not debate - the Mystical Nature of Life. As a guest, you're limited to certain areas and features. If you would like to become a member, please go to: http://the-many-secrets-of-life.blogspot.ca/ and leave a comment. Otherwise you may click below, and maybe get a result... --->Click to register.<--- If you're already a member please log in: |
| The power of emotional honesty. | |
|---|---|
| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 22 2018, 07:04 AM (227 Views) | |
| Oscar | Jan 22 2018, 07:04 AM Post #1 |
![]()
Beloved
|
I recall a couple of times when people said something that caused a seismic shift within me. It's a little strange but someone told me flat "I want to murder you." and suddenly I appreciated him greatly. Almost to the point of respecting him. No one had ever told me that before and it was really good for me to hear it because I had been insufferable and disrespectful, doing whatever I wanted to on his turf. I needed to hear that to set me straight. Another time an old friend of mine suddenly erupted with pent up frustration and he said something like "why are you always complaining about everything I do!?" and I fell silent inwardly and consciously there was no objections of any kind just an awareness that troubled me because I didn't want to be doing that automatically. When something is so true that it shoots through any armor that you might have to stir the very depths of you. |
![]() |
|
| Ardy | Jan 22 2018, 06:26 PM Post #2 |
|
Generous
|
Any form of honesty from the average person would be a step up. In my opinion. |
![]() |
|
| Simpleton | Jan 23 2018, 03:20 AM Post #3 |
Black
|
Yeah it is more than a little strange. Uh... Context? |
![]() |
|
| Oscar | Jan 26 2018, 04:23 AM Post #4 |
![]()
Beloved
|
Saying 'emotional' honesty is contradicting, because if you're only being emotionally honest then you're not really being honest, are you? You cannot be honest in one arena and then not-honest in another yet call it honesty. So it's really honesty that can cut through, sometimes. It can be very healing to hear how someone really feels. Probably because it's usually locked away for any reason. It's also difficult to put your feelings to words in the first place if you compare it to ordering a coffee or something. |
![]() |
|
| Ardy | Jan 26 2018, 10:44 PM Post #5 |
|
Generous
|
Emotional honesty is only valid within the emotional world, which is like a huge lake but very shallow. If you dive in there you will break your nose. Emotional honesty has no value in the world of reality as Oscar alluded to. What is emotional honesty today can be a massive emotional lie tomorrow? |
![]() |
|
| Oscar | Jan 27 2018, 03:32 AM Post #6 |
![]()
Beloved
|
Is something invalid for changing? Would you drop your relationships because the love is gone tomorrow? Feelings are fresh products. Are we talking about different things? People can sometimes say things which sound so true that we instantly accept the truth of it. It's something that slips through in an outburst. No one knows where it came from and then there it is. |
![]() |
|
| Ardy | Jan 27 2018, 02:51 PM Post #7 |
|
Generous
|
I suspect that what you are referring to Oscar is not an emotional outburst but a glimpse of reality breaking through the fog of emotionalism. Emotions must be kept in check if you want to avoid being led by the nose into the world of the ego. They have their place, and I suspect their initial role was to protect us in fight or flight and tieing the group together as a tribe. |
![]() |
|
| Oscar | Jan 27 2018, 03:24 PM Post #8 |
![]()
Beloved
|
Well they are a part of life. I'm all for keeping them on leash, but I'm not opposed to them. You mention how emotions mislead, so it's Maya, but emotions can also pull us in the right direction. Perhaps it had as much to do with me as it did them, and I responded well to the pureness of their emotions. But there was something pure about it, as there is when someone explodes out of frustration. Can you recall a time when you responded positively to something like that? Edited by Oscar, Jan 27 2018, 03:25 PM.
|
![]() |
|
| Ardy | Jan 28 2018, 03:18 AM Post #9 |
|
Generous
|
I will think on that Oscar. It is late and time for big sleeps (hopefully!!!!) |
![]() |
|
| Water | Jan 28 2018, 06:58 AM Post #10 |
|
Adventurer
|
One of my girlfriends friends died a while ago. I've never expressed how I felt about it to my partner because I believed I needed to be strong for her. Ruminating on this thead had me realise I've been carrying a invisible little weight around my heart. Emotional honesty is a two way street. Good thread Oscar. |
![]() |
|
| crow | Jan 28 2018, 11:49 AM Post #11 |
|
One
|
The term "emotional honesty" doesn't readily explain itself to me. I don't know what it is. Emotions distract, and people love distractions. "Wow! Look at that!" exclaims somebody, focusing entirely upon whatever it is, and whatever whatever-it-is causes them to feel. And in so doing, loses touch with everything else. When you choose to not-think to the degree that I don't-think, then thinking becomes something best left to those who like to do it. |
| "Squawk!" said the crow, and then made space. | |
![]() |
|
| Ardy | Jan 28 2018, 01:54 PM Post #12 |
|
Generous
|
Oscar and Water. Having slept on it, I cannot recall a time when emotional honesty burst out and it was a good thing. I have done it many times over my life but I do not believe that at any time it was a good thing. If I get pushed too hard (by women nagging me) I respond with a cold rush and destructive, dissecting responses. That has only happened a couple of times. I am better off when I keep them in check. Water is right in that you should not bottle emotions up, however, letting them out in public or with casual friends is not a good thing. I now see these 'knots' in me when they occur and let them out for airing. I will admit that sometimes it is hard to recognise what the 'knot' is. I lived with a woman for 2 years after my marriage and when that was over I felt dreadful. Assumed it was all to do with her and how I felt about her. So I reluctantly went to see a marriage counsellor. She was a hard nosed bitch and therefore ideal for me. She soon identified that it was not the woman I was upset about but losing her 7 year old daughter. I burst into tears and walked out understanding the issue. Her daughter and I are still close 20 years later. |
![]() |
|
| Oscar | Jan 29 2018, 10:31 AM Post #13 |
![]()
Beloved
|
Most people are seldom honest. Sometimes they let out an anger, for instance, that is unaltered and pure. Not hearing pure things very often it becomes noticeable. This honesty could presumably be valuable to you or to them. If you push people, you may produce this at your own risk... It is like a glitch in software. The purity of the frustration is likely to have a direct and powerful effect. With that something is communicated and things happen. |
![]() |
|
| Ardy | Jan 29 2018, 01:34 PM Post #14 |
|
Generous
|
I understand just can't remember an episode in my life. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened but I struggle to remember what I did yesterday. I would like to report that this memory issue is due to old age but I have always been like this. It is wonderful to see my friends all dragged down to my level of recall at last. Their frustration is delightful to observe (having taken years of abuse over my lousy memory). |
![]() |
|
| Oscar | Jan 31 2018, 03:08 AM Post #15 |
![]()
Beloved
|
You're unintentionally mentioning how their frustration has an effect upon you although I'm uncertain if that gleefulness over their situation is a good thing :). My brother always said that gleefulness is the truest form of happiness, though. It does seem pure enough. I have sometimes provoked people to blow up an issue in order to deal with it but that is a nasty business. |
![]() |
|
| Ardy | Jan 31 2018, 01:12 PM Post #16 |
|
Generous
|
That is true Oscar but I cannot suppress my glee. It was the hallmark of my working career. 'Smart guy, good operator but he has the lousiest memory ever.' Blowing up an issue is only valid in my world if I really care about it. There ain't much I really care about anymore. It seems to me that the ability to get wound up is dependent on how the ego can wind you. It can also be linked to frustration of many types (inc sexual). |
![]() |
|
| crow | Jan 31 2018, 01:29 PM Post #17 |
|
One
|
Age is a factor in the propensity one has to get wound-up over things. Then again: an old body with a two-year-old inside it, never really gets past getting wound-up over stuff. |
| "Squawk!" said the crow, and then made space. | |
![]() |
|
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
| « Previous Topic · Communication · Next Topic » |







1:21 AM Jul 11