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| Nette | Jan 13 2015, 09:54 PM Post #1 |
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5.06 - Crazy Love - Detailed episode synopsis - HQ episode still - Sneak peeks ____________________________________________________________ If you're stuck on what to say, we'd love to know your answers to one or more of these questions: Which character stole the show this week? Favourite and least favourite scene? Funniest and/or saddest moment? Favorite quote(s)? ____________________________________________________________ Rate and discuss the episode! |
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| Nette | Feb 16 2015, 12:35 AM Post #2 |
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I hate that I have to wait until tomorrow afternoon to watch this, because I already know I'll love it. |
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| Julie | Feb 16 2015, 04:17 AM Post #3 |
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THIS EPISODE ![]() ![]() The feels are strong. 10/10, one of the best episodes ever Edited by Julie, Feb 16 2015, 05:02 AM.
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| Jessica | Feb 16 2015, 05:37 AM Post #4 |
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I'll post more about my thoughts later but as a first impression I was very pleased with how they handled Ian's storyline, it wasn't turned into a joke or an excuse for drama and it was very painful to watch but in a good way, I think. There was really no denying how sick he is and how badly he needs help. I loved how involved the family was, I loved all of Mickey's scenes regarding it, I loved seeing Mickey interact just that little bit more with the Gallagher's. I'll probably talk about all that more another time but yeah, it was great. Mickey said he loved him! They hugged twice! There was so much genuine love and concern and ugh. Even Mickey's love for the baby, which I never expected, was beautiful. What really bugged me about this episode though was Fiona's storyline with her marriage and love life. I thought that Fiona's disregard for her family and her kind of escaping to this other life would eventually come back to bite her, but I really get the feeling that the writers want her to move on and have her own life and just with how it's been handled I'm not sure how I feel about that. I could be wrong, but especially with Sammi stepping in, it's the feeling I'm getting and it's making me wonder if that's the reason they kept her around and promoted the actress to the main cast. Those are the main things that stuck out so that's my first impression but I'll try and post about the other stuff that happened later
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| Samuli | Feb 16 2015, 09:51 AM Post #5 |
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"The world breaks everyone, and afterward, some are strong at the broken places."
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Fuck it, it's a 10 from me. This episode was brilliant. I'm gonna comment more when I've recovered from the episode.
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| Jessica | Feb 16 2015, 05:08 PM Post #6 |
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Alright, now that it's actually a decent time of the day LOL and I've had time to think about the episode more, here are my thoughts. Generally speaking, I really like how it started into each of the Gallagher siblings different storylines and then interrupted all of them with the news of what Ian had done and that he was gone. THAT is the Gallagher family dynamic I am used to, and I have missed it so much. They each lead their own lives with their own friends and their own problems, but at the end of the day they're a family who has always worked together to get shit done and to look out for their own. Granted, there wasn't much looking in this episode, but it really was a waiting game so I'm not too bothered by that. Mickey Not that it should come as a surprise anymore, but Noel really shined in this episode with his portrayal of Mickey. His concern and fear and anger all felt so real and believable. Because when you love someone, and you're really worried about them, you do go back and forth between anger, fear, and sadness. Anger at them for being so reckless, anger at yourself for not being able to do anything, fear about what might happen or have already happened. And that really showed in Mickey's scenes, more than anyone else. Mickey & Carl Mickey and Carl having a one-on-one conversation and sharing scenes together is something I definitely want more of from now on. The show was really highlighting their similarities this week, and while Mickey might not be the best role model, I feel like he and Carl could probably become pretty close and I'd be interested to see that dynamic. I like Carl sharing his experience with this kind of situation with Mickey, talking about Monica and Mickey genuinely being interested this time because there's no more denying Ian's inherited her disorder. Obviously Monica and Ian are not the same, the disorder will not affect them exactly the same and they won't handle it exactly the same, but there are still similarities. I also really loved all of them riding in the backseat together - makes me think Carl waited with Mickey at his place for Lip to come pick them up. Ironically enough, Carl was kind of Mickey's emotional support. He's the one in this situation who is more experienced and familiar with bipolar disorder, he kind of shows Mickey that even though this isn't good it's still kind of the norm for someone in Ian's position without the proper treatment to control it. And while Mickey was apologizing for not being able to stop it, you can just see Carl watching him the whole time and Mickey kind of looking to him for... I don't even know what, exactly. Reassurance? Confirmation of what Lip said about how it could get worse? It was just a really nice scene and I loved it. Mickey & Lip Lip might have seemed like he was being hard on Mickey at first, but he didn't really seem angry or spiteful which was a pleasant surprise. I think by this point, Lip realizes how much Mickey does care, and while he might be upset that he didn't take him seriously before now, I think he and the rest of the Gallagher kids all remember what it was like when they were in Mickey's shoes, when they didn't understand what was wrong with Monica or how bad she could get, when they didn't recognize the signs. I think he was just giving Mickey a reality check, that no matter how bad this seems, it can get worse, and that's why it's so important Ian gets help before that can happen. Mickey & Ian I think my favourite scene with the two of them has to be the one at the psych ward, when Ian kind of turns to Mickey and looks like he's going to say or do something but decides against it and just goes to leave. He just looked so young and heartbroken and ashamed, like he didn't know what he could say in that moment, and he shakes his head like he's mad at himself and Mickey didn't let him leave like that. He rushed up and grabbed him and held on to him for dear life and there was just no questioning in that moment how much he loved him and how worried he was for him. It was definitely something Ian needed and I am so glad they had that scene, ugh, my heart still aches watching it. I also really think that Ian was doing this for Mickey, despite signing himself in voluntarily. He knows he worried everyone and he screwed up and he's probably confused by himself in that moment, why he freaked out so much when he was on drugs. So there's that split second of clarity where he agrees to it and looks to Mickey for support, but I think also to see if this is what Mickey wanted. That'll probably hurt Ian for a little while, until he starts coming to terms with his illness and accepting that he wasn't okay and he did need help. just in case someone hasn't seen the promo yet (click) This may have been a step in the right direction, but it's the first step of many he'll have to take. Aside from that heartfelt scene, I obviously enjoyed all the scenes they shared together this episode. I love that Mickey is programmed as "Mick" on Ian's phone. I love how it would transition from Ian all carefree without a care in the world, ignoring his ringing phone, to Mickey frantically calling and slamming his phone down when there was no answer, again. I loved Mickey's phone call where he went from hostile ("I'm starting to get homicidal") to terrified ("I'm worried about you. I love you.") and seriously, can we just appreciate the fact that Mickey knew he scared Ian and probably made him feel unwanted when he lashed out in the last episode and said he had to go to the psych ward? His reaction last week was totally understandable but here, he's not even concerned about it, he's just worried for Ian and wanting him to be okay and to know that Mickey does care, actually he cares a lot, and he wants him to come back. Their conversation before wasn't Mickey kicking him out, it wasn't him giving up on Ian, it was him admitting he can't do this on his own and Ian needs professional care and help to get better. And then later, when they're in the car and Ian is sleeping against Mickey's shoulder (it's a sad scene but that was so sweet to see) and Mickey's gone from saying no cops, no hospitals, to saying they NEED to get Ian into a psych ward whether he'll do it voluntarily or not. Mickey's not playing around, he's not risking Ian's life or anyone else's by pretending this doesn't exist anymore. Now that he's seen just how serious this can get, he's ready to do whatever it takes to help Ian even if that would have meant Ian hating him. THAT is the difference between their relationship and Frank and Monica's, because Mickey was a scared kid in over his head who didn't understand what was happening and Frank was an enabling addict who didn't care, because Monica being better usually meant she left him and he'd rather she be with him and sick than away from him and better. Svetlana I still never know quite how I feel about her but I think her anger and desire to call the cops in this episode is understandable. Most of the offensive stuff she said about Ian was obviously out of anger and concern for her child and it's not something I think will last once that relationship is repaired down the line. I do think it'll be a while before she plays nice with Ian after this, which will also inevitably lead to tension returning between her and Mickey. don't click if you haven't been reading spoilers Carl I was really confused at first why the police dog kept barking at him and why he was so freaked out about it, because I forgot he had been carrying drugs when he went to Mickey's - yet another reason why I figure he probably stayed there with him. But you can tell he was scared about getting caught and Lip finding out he has a pound of weed on him, he has to be able to put two and two together and realize why that might be. But I'm not holding my breath for that to help Carl get out of it, because Lip also knows about Debbie raping someone and his commentary to that was... uh, questionable, to put it mildly. He'll probably give questionable advice to Carl as well which won't really help out because that's never been Lip's area of expertise. His heart's in the right place, he's just very bad at it lmao. Anyway, the police dog I think was definitely foreshadowing of what's to come for Carl. This post is all over the place since I never even tried to organize it rofl but that's how this episode made me feel, like one big mess. Also I never talked about Debbie, Sammi, or Fiona but I probably will later. Also more about Ian individually since I barely touched on it earlier, just said I was pleased with how they handled it. But this post was getting long enough so I figured I'd end it here. |
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| Nette | Feb 16 2015, 05:35 PM Post #7 |
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I have so much to say but I just finished the episode and my thoughts are a jumbled mess. That was amazing. I did not expect that 'I love you' from Mickey, that nearly did me in. Everything at the police station and then after the hospital killed me, and now it's two weeks until the next episode??? Hell nah. The scenes with Mickey and Carl together were great. More of that. And Lip telling Mickey he did great and that he tried was something I desperately needed. Ian was clearly so ashamed when he was at the hospital, the way he almost wouldn't look at Mickey and was only going to murmur a weak "I'm sorry" before scurrying off. Jesus. And then the hug and Mickey's desperate voice...
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| Julie | Feb 17 2015, 04:12 AM Post #8 |
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I have so many feelings about this episode, where do I begin ![]() All the Ian/Mickey scenes killed me. Mickey saying 'I love you', I was not expecting that in this episode at all Both of those hugs, but especially the one at the hospital - It was sad how Ian seemed like he could barely look at him or say anything, Mickey wasn't going to let him leave like that and he just grabs him hugs him and damn that was an intense hug and Mickey saying 'can I go in with him' right in the feelsJimmy annoyed me. He's had to have been back for a few months at least since we saw him at the end of Season 4. So he's just been stalking Fiona and waited until she got married to actually talk to her? Then expects her to just get back with him because he keeps saying "I love you" over and over again Really? Loved the other Gallaghers watching Fiona and Jimmy outside and saying "nooo don't do it" that was my reaction too ![]() Kevin and Veronica's storyline is not really doing anything for me. I feel like it should be sadder than it is because they were such a great couple in previous seasons, but it's just hasn't been for some reason... Edited by Julie, Feb 17 2015, 01:19 PM.
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| mickeys | Feb 17 2015, 08:44 PM Post #9 |
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i am sooo tired all the time since i started my new job so this is just gonna be my thoughts real quick. hopefully i get around to replying to others soon 10/10 because I genuinely love this season so fucking much and I love every single storyline. FRANK - loved his SL i just wish they wouldn't let him stay in the house. I love how Sammi handles the situation though. LIP - love love love love love him. Loved to see some interactio with Ian to be honest, I missed that a whole lot. And i love what he said to Mickey and how he acknowledge Mickey's efforts and I felt like you could tell he was genuine and he was like "Im glad Ian has you" IAN - oh dear. I just want him to be save. Great job by Cam, the acting was amazing. The scene at the gas station was so uncomfortable just wow DEBBIE - i want to see more of her at high school. i hope that's gonna be the bigger plot for her the second half of the season. I want to see how she deals with all of it. CARL - FAVORITE EVER. his scenes with Mickey gave me life like I actually rewtached their scenes, I loved it so much. He has such a big heart I love hat about Carl, how much he cares. When he talked to Mickey and wanted to like kinda tell he knows how bad it gets and he wanted Mickey to know they are all worried sick and just hope to fid Ian. that scene in the car with the weed cracked me up I LOVE CARL SO MUCH FIONA - oh god. I wish i wish she hadn't given in so easily. Jimmysteve will fuck her up and I hate it already. She was doing so good. I hope she doesn't play GUs, he doesn't deserve that. JIMMYSTEVE - GO AWAY I HATE YOU. literally no words on how much I hate this character. UGH MICKEY - i am speechless by Noel's performance and how honest and raw and genuine it is. it pains me. everything about this side of MIckey is all i ever wanted and didn't know I needed. the first I LOVE YOU. omg I am so thankful it happened like this oh god. I just loved seeing him dealing with everything around the house while worrying sick. He was so upset and he was so scared. Like it was almost frightening to see Mickey so scared. Those hugs with Ian were painful but incredible, like comforting Ian and Mickey over physical Ian and Mickey any day tbh. The last scene broke me, you could tell how hard it was to let Ian go. when he asked if he can come with... KILL ME DEAD. good great amazing, I love this show more than ever give me more |
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| Samuli | Feb 18 2015, 03:53 PM Post #10 |
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Halfway through the season and I'm only now posting my thoughts for the first time about an episode here, oops, and I'll probably be rambling the entire time but without further parley here we go! (I actually have to rewatch the episode at the same time so I can say everything I wanna say about the episode! Oh, bring on the pain! Also, I'm trying to write as much as possible in English because I have my English final exam in one month so I guess it's good to practice a bit and write in length, so I'm sorry if this long post is gonna annoy anyone!) First thought, I kinda like that Jimmy is back. Justin and Emmy's chemistry is so amazing and nothing will ever beat that, tbh. I'll probably say more about him later on but all the parallels in this episode makes me believe that Jimmy's gone for good... except for one thing, and I'll talk about it later as well. I also love Angela, and I wish she could stay... Ian & Yevgeny, oh god. "I should watch my language", this first scene is kind of adorable although it still made me scary to see what's coming next. 'You and me, you're gonna love it man. Just you and me.' I don't know why but I just love the way Ian talks about Yev throughout the whole episode. Plus, I love the song that played during this scene, I just gotta give props to the people who are behind Shameless' soundtrack because it's freaking amazing. This Mickey & Svetlana scene was just the beginning of breaking my heart! Don't fight!!! I hate seeing fighting and arguing in general although I understand that it's obvious in this scene. I haven't had that much feelings about Amanda since last season, and I haven't really even liked her but for some reason I'm starting to like her a lot more and more now that we're seeing her more. Don't fuck this up, Lip. Frank and "I've a dream" talk.. I'm not the ones who hate Frank from the bottom of their heart but he's seriously starting to annoy the shizzle out of me. Him pushing Sammi away from the door!!! I also kinda like that Sammi's turning into this mother figure at the Gallaghers now that Fiona's 'gone'. She's taking it too far tbh with doors being closed at 10pm and stuff. This is probably the most I've liked her this season (+ the scene with Mickey). I hope she stays like this although I highly doubt it, knowing what will happen in 507 with her and Frank. I'm also in the minority who hasn't hated her since the beginning but she's been annoying me A LOT this season, and mostly because the writers don't know what to do with her but I don't know, hopefully that will change on the second half of the season. I just have a lot of feelings about her for some reason.Ian singing! I love country music, tbh, it's kinda my guilty pleasure. I kinda love this sunset scene and all although it's terrifying as fuck. :/ I love Fiona defending Ian to Sammi. I need and want more of that! Shameless' timeline is so fucked up. Jimmy disappears "years at a time" I remember listening/ reading an interview with WMH saying that they have people who work with the Shameless timeline and try to figure it out or something like that... but oh well... not working that well. The comparison between Jimmy and Gus in this episode tho, Jimmy knows almost everything about Fiona and her life and Gus knows nothing, obviously. Also, the parallels with Jimmy in this episode and with the Pilot. This makes me feel that Jimmy's gonna be gone for good, and this is just his final goodbye or something. Spoiler: click to toggle Also, I gotta say that this episode had a few really pretty scenes/ shots/ directing. There's a word for this thing I'm thinking but I can't get it in my head right now. First example the scene around 17 minutes when we see the Gallagher house at night and it changes to morning. I just loved that, and the other scene that I can think of right now is the view when we see the car coming towards the screen with Lip/ Mickey/ Debbie/ Carl & Yev. I just loved that shot as well. I don't know if this makes any sense but... Again I have to mention that THE SOUNDTRACK IS AMAZING! I seriously need to go through and download this music because !!! why not.Fiona not knowing it's Debbie's first day in high school is so fucked up. Fiona GET OUT OF THE FUN BUBBLE YOU'RE LIVING IN and take care of your family, please. Yevi crying all the time makes these scenes even more painful to watch. "You're gonna be a big badass. All the other babies are gonna look at you, and you're such a big badass, they're gonna go running-- no, crawling away in fear." Ian loves Yev so much I'm gonna cry. ![]() ALL RIGHT, SHITHEAD, THIS IS, LIKE, THE 200TH TIME I'M CALLING AND YOU NOT PICKING UP. I'M STARTING TO GET FUCKING HOMICIDAL. CALL ME THE FUCK BACK, IAN. I'M WORRIED ABOUT YOU. I LOVE YOU. CALL ME BACK. Aaaand I lost it. Damn you Mickey Milkovich and #FEELS. For me, these V and Kev's scenes don't work in this episode at all. I loved Vee and Fiona's 'I love you' part though. I was so invested in all the Ian/Yev/Mickey etc. stuff I couldn't really care about V&Kev. Deadly Debbie? Okay... that's all I gotta say about this. 'Hey, Ian, it's Lip. Where the fuck are you?' I appreciate this scene and I really hope we're gonna see more Ian and Lip bonding this season! Ian in the grocery story with Yev. "Peas and thank you." IAN IN DADDY MODE KILLS ME. Also, I don't know how many noticed/ knew this but the woman behind in Ian in the line is the baby's real mother, who also holds Yev for a while. That's probably the reason Yev cries even more. ![]() This Nika scene was so worthless, sigh. IAN DON'T LEAVE YEV!!! ![]() I love how Liam's just standing there and not helping Frank, lol. Good kid. MY BABY! Ian said MY BABY five times!!! I'm just crying again because Ian loves Yev so much and he'd never hurt him purposely. "I'm sorry." ![]() THIS MICKEY AND CARL SCENE IS EVERYTHING TO ME. It just occurred to me that Carl was the one Monica was in the car crash with, and now Ian's on the run with Yev, AND CARL WENT TO THE MILKOVICHES AND TALKED TO MICKEY. He also made Mickey SMILE!!! I need more of them like yesterday. I have rewatched this episode and some of the scenes several times already but I can't watch this last Fiona & Jimmy scene, neither can I watch the Fiona & Gus scene. It's just painful to watch for some reason and I have to skip these scenes... sorry. Mick apologizing to Lip. And again the looks between Mickey & Carl. Ah, I'm just gonna skip this Frank scene. Partner. Love. Family. THE HUG. MICKEY WITH YEV. I'm sorry but these scenes make me so emotional I can't think properly or even say anything because I'm just crying here!!! All I can SAY IS MICKEY + NUDGING THE CHEEKS OF THE PEOPLE HE LOVES THE MOST. I'M OFFICIALLY DEAD. Someone pointed this out on Tumblr saying that Lip was in the first car scene a bit rough with Mickey for obvious reasons but in the second one, he said Mickey did okay, after he'd seen the emotional hug between Ian and Mickey. I think that was really sweet. Gus. WTF. "Your phone kept going off, but I didn't think I should wake you." ????????????????????????????????????????????? He knew Ian was on the run but he didn't think it was important to wake her?????????????????????????????????? Okay. Also, does anyone know what Gus was possibly thinking when he last stared at Fiona? I can't quite get my head around it, or his thoughts. Maybe he realizes that for Fiona, her family comes (or should come) first and that their wedding was indeed a huge fucking mistake? And the last three minutes, and I'm crying like a baby. I have never felt anything like this while watching a TV-show. The emotions are so real and everything. Damn you Shameless! I kinda loved that Ian looked Mickey before signing his name but it also tells that Ian doesn't quite know what he's doing, or he thinks that he's doing it for Mickey, not for himself. He asks Mickey's approval or something. I don't know if this is completely off or wrong but anyways. I also love more than anything that Ian kissed Yevgeny. The quiet "I'm sorry" that Ian says to Mickey, or tries to say before his voice breaks KILLS ME. He's so sorry and he thinks he doesn't deserve Mickey or any comfort from him or anything and he just walks by. Then Mickey runs and hugs him, and that's when I completely lost it. I just started crying more and more and I had to rewatch the ending because I didn't know what happened, or see, because I was crying. This HUG IS EVERYTHING TO ME. Then, "Can I go in with him?" WHY DOES THIS SHOW WANTS TO TORTURE US THIS MUCH?! Fuck, this ending is painful. That's it. I hope that even some of this mess that I wrote makes sense. Overall, this was a great episode, and it deserves 10/10. This is also probably my all-time favorite episode so far. I remember seeing a tweet from someone who's seen 507 saying that it's her favorite episode so far and that she could watch it on a replay forever, so I'm really looking forward to that and to see if it can top 506 because it's going to be tough. TWO WEEKS. HOW!? I NEED IT NOW
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Loved the other Gallaghers watching Fiona and Jimmy outside and saying "nooo don't do it" that was my reaction too 
I'm not the ones who hate Frank from the bottom of their heart but he's seriously starting to annoy the shizzle out of me. Him pushing Sammi away from the door!!! I also kinda like that Sammi's turning into this mother figure at the Gallaghers now that Fiona's 'gone'. She's taking it too far tbh with doors being closed at 10pm and stuff. This is probably the most I've liked her this season (+ the scene with Mickey). I hope she stays like this although I highly doubt it, knowing what will happen in 507 with her and Frank. I'm also in the minority who hasn't hated her since the beginning but she's been annoying me A LOT this season, and mostly because the writers don't know what to do with her but I don't know, hopefully that will change on the second half of the season. I just have a lot of feelings about her for some reason.
Also, I don't know how many noticed/ knew this but the woman behind in Ian in the line is the baby's real mother, who also holds Yev for a while. That's probably the reason Yev cries even more.
And again the looks between Mickey & Carl.

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