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Shameless Q&A; Have a general question about the series? Ask it here!
Topic Started: Jan 20 2015, 11:51 PM (373 Views)
Jessica
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Please use this thread to ask any general questions about the series, characters, episodes, etc.
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Nette
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Holly. I asked a while ago if season 4 and 5 Holly is supposed to be the same one as the Holly in season 2 (I think it's season 2. Debbie's birthday party), and I got the answer that yes, she's supposed to be the same one. So my question is, how old is she supposed to be now? Holly was 15 back then and Debbie is 14 now, but Debbie somehow aged more than two years since season one while Ian's only aged two :lol:

But we already knew Shameless is timey-wimey and doesn't really care about silly things such as ages or how long a pregnancy should be xD So did Holly age with Debbie or with the other characters? Is she 17? Older? Younger? What even. (I just want to know how creepy I should find her "relationship" with Carl :lol: )
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Jessica
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I had wondered if this was supposed to be the same Holly as before lol but I didn't know since they never really mentioned the last time she was on the show and of course it's a different actress.

The writers like you said don't seem to pay attention to details when it comes to age. My guess is that right now she's only meant to be 15 still or possibly 16, because if she was meant to be 17 now she would be the same age as Ian and that would contradict Lip saying she was too young for him considering Mandy's the same age as Ian as well. Assuming Carl's 13 (he was only a year younger than Debs, right?) that would make Holly 2-3 years older than him. In theory anyway lmao.

I do think that the reason behind the age inconsistencies comes down to two things: the plot, and the fact that younger actors age physically much faster than actors who are already in their twenties. They can only pass as a certain age for so long, whereas actors in their twenties age much more slowly. That's why in a lot of long-running television shows, the teenagers are played by adults. Unless they're playing young teenagers, in which case they probably use actors in their late teens lol.

As for Ian still being 17, that's likely done for plot purposes. I figure they need Ian to remain underage for one of his storylines, either when he gets treatment this season or when the army inevitably catches up to him. Once that's over, they'll probably age his character up.
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I was told on tumblr by several different people that she's supposed to be the same Holly, so I'll go from that xD Poor Holly, forever 15 hahaha.

And yeah I agree that the wonky ages for the younger characters is because of the actors growing up faster and various plot reasons, like Ian, but it's still funny. That's the reason they had to cut Walt from LOST, the character was still 10 but I think the actor is our age, born in 91 I believe :lol:
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does anyone know where i can get a live stream of the show tonight i live in the states central time!! can't wait for the new episode!!!!
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Apr 5 2015, 09:56 PM
does anyone know where i can get a live stream of the show tonight i live in the states central time!! can't wait for the new episode!!!!
Try one of these: 1, 2, 3
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