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| Samuli | Mar 22 2015, 11:56 AM Post #1 |
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"The world breaks everyone, and afterward, some are strong at the broken places."
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5.10 - South Side Rules - Detailed Episode Synopsis + Advanced Preview - HQ Episode Stills - Two Sneak Peeks ____________________________________________________________ If you're stuck on what to say, we'd love to know your answers to one or more of these questions: Which character stole the show this week? Favourite and least favourite scene? Funniest and/or saddest moment? Favorite quote(s)? ____________________________________________________________ Rate and discuss the episode! |
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| Nette | Mar 22 2015, 03:44 PM Post #2 |
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I am honestly so excited for this one. I hope I won't get disappointed. |
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| Jessica | Mar 22 2015, 05:15 PM Post #3 |
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I'm trying to keep my expectations really low for this one after being burned in the past lol but I'm sure I'll enjoy the Ian/Mickey scenes, at the very least. Hopefully the rest of the episode is good too though, that one previewer seemed happy with the episode in general which is promising, but we all have such varied tastes that it's hard to say if we'll agree. |
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| Nette | Mar 23 2015, 10:23 AM Post #4 |
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Wait, so we had to suffer through Frank having awkward sex with a random woman and then jerking off, but Ian and Mickey faded to black again? During a coming-together that was actually pretty damn important? I'm not even going to make a comment on it at this point. Not quite sure how I feel about Ian and Mickey beating each other up, but it happened for the exact reason I thought it would. It made sense that Ian would feel annoyed and suffocated, it was just painful to watch. The nostalgia hit me hard though, I loved it. THEY WERE GOING ON A DATE WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME They better get a rain check on that for when Ian's let out. Debbie wanting to get pregnant is the worst. plot. ever. Just no. Frank whining and Kermit going "Why are you a country song?" made me laugh so hard, I'm crying. I'm laughing now just thinking about it. Doctor lady is very cute but I feel like this storyline would have been better and maybe had more of an impact if it was developed little by little from the beginning of the season and not just all at once out of the blue. The college guy that broke his leg is adorable, I like him. |
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| Jessica | Mar 23 2015, 12:42 PM Post #5 |
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As much as I actually liked this episode, this is kind of infuriating to me at this point lol. Not because I even want a sex scene between Ian and Mickey, I would actually be perfectly fine with there just being less pointless and graphic sex scenes with all the straight people to level the playing field a bit and the cut back on wasted screentime because I don't really see the point in Frank's bathroom sex or Lip going at it hardcore with Amanda or Fiona getting a three minute oral sex scene. There's no reason it can't be cut or at the very least condensed. Otherwise, it does look bad that they never do the same with Ian and Mickey, especially when they felt the need to cut one of their sex scenes already. I realize this one was meant to parallel the original dugout scene but I'm just really tired of all the #Gallavich promotion and them making a big deal out of something that isn't that special. This dugout scene was nostalgic and I did still like it, but the scene felt really off to me and the fight was incredibly awkward. I also don't think it was worth all the hype. 5.06 is still better for me as far as epic moments go. This one felt like an attempt at fanservice, and like I said I did enjoy it but I hate pandering, even if it's for my benefit. It's something that always happens when a ship gains popularity, unfortunately. I just hope next season is different and they stop shoving it down our throats in social media and promotions. I think they did a great job of building up Ian's frustration not only with Mickey but with his situation, with everyone around him, with how he was feeling because of the medication, etc. It's just that the fight itself seemed forced because they rushed to try and fit all of this in one episode. Had they not cut the scene outside the clinic last week, it might not have felt so sudden, since Ian looked pretty agitated in that still. I don't really like them fighting either, though. I know it was meant to be another parallel but it just left a bad taste in my mouth with what Ian was saying to get a rise out of Mickey. I read a review that spoiled this, which I'm actually thankful for because it gave me time to be mad about it long before the episode aired and I got to enjoy the episode despite this mess The only thing I can say about this plot is how obvious it is that Debbie is crying out for attention, that she's feeling neglected, that her family is not what it used to be. I know I've been saying for a while about how the Gallagher family dynamic isn't the same, and I had started accepting that this was just how things were going to be now with them growing up, but I'm back to feeling like it has to be deliberate. You can see the gears working in her head when that girl tells Debbie that her kid is the best thing that ever happened to her, she didn't have a family but now she does because the baby's father took responsibility for her and brought her into his family and they've all accepted her. It's heartbreaking in a way because Debbie's family USED to be like that, but they haven't been for a long time and clearly she's noticed. Spoiler: click to toggle HANDS DOWN favourite random quote of the episode lmao. YES, thank you, I completely agree. I did this really long ranty post on tumblr yesterday about my problem's with this season to get it off my chest (which I think helped) and I said the same thing. If anything, it would limit the amount of screentime per episode and it would make it have more of an impact like you said if it was developed little by little. But I feel like this is true for a lot of storylines this year, some of them were unnecessary and should have been either cut or saved for another season. This season has just felt so convoluted, and it's okay to have random plots or funny plots but when it starts kind of dragging out the main storylines as a result it becomes an issue. Frank and Bianca in my opinion should have been a main storyline for him, it's far better than Frank and Sammi's mess and would have gotten rid of some of the more annoying scenes this season. The army should not have been introduced this season for Ian, because that's a major plot point and unless they dedicate a lot of time to it next week like they did in 5.06 there's not enough time to do it justice. Lip's storyline hasn't been too bad for excess, the sex scenes with his teacher and Amanda showed a bit more than what I feel was necessary but aside from that I haven't been too annoyed with it. Speaking of Lip... Joaquin is his name, I think, he's the one who offered to hack the system for Lip too. I actually really enjoy their scenes together as well, they've got some common ground between them and I'd much rather see a storyline where Lip has a friend versus multiple sexual encounters with women of all ages, sizes and ethnicities because for some reason they just can't resist. (Lip's gotta be a self-insert character) |
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| Nette | Mar 23 2015, 01:35 PM Post #6 |
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It's especially annoying when the writers have tried to justify the lack of Ian and Mickey sex scenes by saying that all sex scenes on the show must have a """""purpose"""" and be important to the storyline. Lmao okay, you keep telling yourself that. Like let's say if Fiona now gets pregnant then yes, (some of) her sex scenes would have had a purpose, and that purpose would be that she had so much sex with two different people that it's hard to tell who the father is. Fair enough. Lip's scenes though ummmm the purpose is... well... just because? Frank? Because why not, it's Frank. The thing is, we know Ian and Mickey had a lot of sex in the beginning of the season. They told us, they hinted at it. Idk, but just showing it (kind of like the montage Fiona had with Gus) could have gotten the point across that it was a bit too much to be normal, even if they're horny teenagers. Once again they've made a gay kiss seem like a big deal. I assume the kiss was supposed to be what made this episode "epic" for them, as if it has to be made into a huge deal when the show otp, who's now an established couple, kiss on the lips. It's just iffy. As far as epicness go I agree with you, 5.06 was better for them. Though I did still enjoy the scenes, the one where they talked about going on a date was great, I loved it, please let them actually get on that date sometime. Also Mickey implying that as far as he's concerned they have had dates before, bless his little heart Yeah, same here. The slur was a bit too much for me personally, it made me cringe. I know that Ian knew that would get a reaction out of Mickey though, but still. I agree with you about Debbie and her reasons for doing what she's doing. Someone help this child. She might also get a wake-up call if she were to tell Derek what she's planning and he's all "wtf???? No I'm out of here" and she realizes not every guy would just take her in and be willing to start a family. Bianca should definitely have been the main storyline for Frank. If they want this to seem like genuine love story then why try to convince us so late in the game? I'm not convinced by insta-love. Show me Frank gradually falling for her if you must, show me him slowly starting to prioritize her instead of drinking. Maybe then I would have been more interested. Another random funny quite this episode was "I think he's trying to find a portal" ![]() Ah yes, Joaquin. And yeah, he's the hacker guy. I'd definitely prefer Lip having a friend than a weird affair with his professor too. The way Lip was looking at him at the end of the last scene might indicate that he thought the same? Maybe? At least now he has someone around with a little common ground, like you said. Please be friends. LMAO Lip totally is the self-insert character. |
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| Jessica | Mar 23 2015, 04:30 PM Post #7 |
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There is no reason they can't use the same fade to black strategy with Lip's sexual encounters that they use with Ian and Mickey's, especially considering the amount there are. With Frank, I get that the "purpose" of his scene in the bathroom was to show that he can't get Bianca out of his mind, but I think him getting up and leaving his beer practically untouched was a much nicer, subtler touch and the bathroom scene was unnecessary. I'm also still slightly bitter that this storyline couldn't have happened ages ago because it has potential, it's just hard to care about it when we're nearly at the end of the season and we've got so much left to get through. I think the montage would have worked great considering Ian's hypersexuality was supposed to be a big thing, but since there's no opportunity to show female nudity that would never happen. I think that's a lot of what Fiona and Lip's sex scenes come down to, to be honest, and I mean, it's always been that way. It's not like this is new. But let's not act like you only show sex scenes when it's relevant to the plot because 90% of them are about showing off Emmy's body, or whoever Lip happens to be sleeping with. None of which would probably bother me this year if it weren't for all the storylines being neglected in favour of showing these heterosexual sex scenes. But since they are, it's hard not to let a little bitterness seep in. I usually have more to distract me from these issues, like more storylines I'm actually interested in I think the head kiss at the beginning of the episode was better, lol. The kiss at the dugout might have been more epic if they'd had a shouting match that built up the tension. I don't know, I'm sure it was meant to parallel the first time they hooked up and also 3.11 but it didn't do it for me the way past parallels have. And as far as epic kisses go, nothing will probably ever top 4.08 I mean obviously I still liked it but I didn't feel the buildup to this one, it didn't make my heart beat erratically, I didn't replay it over and over again to relive the experience. The best part of it for me was actually when they started undressing and Mickey leaned back in to kiss Ian. I think the fight just made me feel too uncomfortable with the rest which is a shame but it is what it is. I'll do a proper meta post later and probably feel better about it. I'm not sure what Mickey's classifying as a date, the first time at the dugouts? The sleepover? Or maybe something we didn't get to see, who knows lol. The scene was cute, I'm guessing the writers think that song is Ian and Mickey's theme song considering their love most certainly has been a battlefield from day one lol. And Mickey not even being hesitant at all about the date, in a lot of ways he is so whipped lol. I think he always was, he's just not hiding it anymore because why bother? He knows he likes and wants to do all the same things Ian does anyway and now he gets to. That "take your pills, bitch," was surprisingly affectionate, seriously only Noel Fisher could pull that off lol. We've been getting "insta-love" all season, and it's not working. Like yeah, you might find the scenes cute, you might like the love interest to a point, but I'm all about the slow burn and that's been nonexistent with all these love stories. That's probably a lot of why I can't get interested in them, I know they aren't going to last, they're being used as a means to an end and you can enjoy the ride as you please but at the end of the day the characters they're involved with will move on with their lives. Anyway, back to Frank, so much of what I've found frustrating this season were his scenes with Sammi, so if we had replaced that with Bianca, and had Sammi's scenes be more about her trying to integrate with her new family, it would have been a lot more enjoyable for me personally. Another thing that was frustrating for me, and it's my own fault for reading interviews and spoilers for the first time this year, was all the talk of Frank being sober for the entire season. The Frank we saw sitting at the bar, talking about Bianca and barely giving his beer a second glance? That's what I've been waiting for. "Sober" Frank was always considered a good dad, his kids said as much, it's why Lip was so afraid when he sobered up and the younger kids were happily spending time with him. He didn't want them to get hurt when Frank started drinking again. I'm hoping (but not holding my breath) that Bianca actually results in some genuine character development for Frank, especially if we're supposed to believe he genuinely starts loving her. I don't expect him to stop being Frank, but a little growth after five seasons of the same thing shouldn't be that much to ask for either. Otherwise Bianca's basically another Dottie Coronis and, as nice as it is to see a different side of Frank, not really worth spending time on if it doesn't impact his life in some way going into the next season. LOL he certainly looked that way. Those drugs Kev got were some scary shit, good god. I think so, and it's nice, because we've never gotten to see Lip have actual friends, with the exception of the randomly inserted characters at the start of the season that we'd never heard of before and will never hear of again. It's funny, because Lip had just finished using the excuse of "south side rules," with Helene and then here's Joaquin basically saying the same thing, because he's from a similar neighbourhood and he gets it. Now Lip was definitely covering his own ass and Helene was right to call him on it, but still. Speaking of her calling him on his shit, as unnecessary as I find the whole sleeping with his teacher thing to be, I loved her little rant. Paraphrasing from my memory, but something like, "Stop acting like the world is out to get you when it is literally dropping gifts at your feet." If we can focus more on lines like that and less on Lip living out the student/professor porno fantasy, I can handle her sticking around a little bit. It seems like they're working on pushing Amanda out of the picture. |
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| thatgallavichgirl | Mar 23 2015, 08:53 PM Post #8 |
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This episode was brilliant. I am loving everyone's story. And am loving every character. Aside from Sammi. I am a huge gallavich fan and she is ruining everything for them. They were happy. They were going to go on a date. And she ruined everything
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| aleppulido | Mar 24 2015, 12:15 AM Post #9 |
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I really think that she's gonna help Lip apreciate where he's at and what he's really able to do at college, and teaching him all of this different things and stuff. I really miss season 4 Lip, i miss the kinda reckless Lip, breaking car windows with a pipe, but i feel like he's come quite a long way. I dont really like the fact that they're taking Amanda out, because i believe she helped Lip in lots of different ways, and i think she helped create this Lip we see now. I really feel kinda bad and mad for Debbie, i get that she wanting to get pregnant is some sort of cry for attention, but i feel like she has lost herself somehow idk, but i would really like for her to get pregnant and Derek not taking the responsability of it all, and idk, maybe him asking him to take an abortion or something like that. I think things have gone completely terrible for Debbie this season, but like, she's not being really conciuos 'bout what she's doing, first raping matty, which i dont think people talk much about, and now this??? I feel like, she needs to be taken care of and apreciated more, but also someone needs to really show her how wrong she's doing. I really don't get sammi, like i get that she's mad and all, but like carl is already in jubie, so why would she do that to Ian, amd i guess she sorta sees her mistake right away when Ian asks her why. i dont really get waht she's still doing, i mean, why is she still around?? Why did they let her move in in the frist place, like i get that she was helping out, but she was never needed, or wanted. I really feel like they're missing the whole point of Frank being sober, like someone said already, like he's known to be a better father when he's sober, but he's not really around. I think Bianca is just another Dotie, she's gonna end up dead real soon and Frank might feel something, but i feel like their whole thing won't last long. I'm really happy to see kev and v making some pregress, it is little progress, but is something, and I feel like the needed that time off to sorta undarstand themselves as separate parents, idk. I belive the fight scene between Ian and Mickey was really out of character, buy i feel like it was a sorta wake up call to Mickey, like Ian says he misses the old badass piece of trash he fell for, cause after all thats their thing, Mickey being an ass, and Ian, well, being Ian, so although i didnt really liked it, i feel like they really needed that at the moment. The scene where Ian burned his hand had me in shock for a few minutes, like i get that he was trying to feel something, but i havent really seen him as a self destructive kind of person , so, yea. I also think the army thing was going to come up sooner or later, but i dont really think that it was brought the right way. -sorry, i still dont get how the whole quoting thing works.- |
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| Julie | Mar 24 2015, 09:30 AM Post #10 |
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I definitely think the Frank/Bianca stuff should've had more build up. When I first read the spoilers about her before the season and how he would ~fall in love for the first time~ with her, I definitely thought it would be a bigger storyline this season. But she just randomly shows up toward the end of the season, and he's suddenly in love with her... The Kevin/Veronica scene was nice, but their whole storyline this season felt kind of forced and maybe a little rushed? to me ugh poor Ian and Mickey They just wanted to go on a date Sammi is the actual worst. It was so unnecessary too. I mean I know she was doing it to get back at them for Chuckie getting arrested, but Carl did too. That wasn't enough?Ian and Mickey singing was everything and then Ian wanting to go on a real date, how cute were they Of course they can never be happy for a whole episode That kiss was hot. But yeah it's a bit ridiculous that we only get fade to black sex scenes with them. I'm not sure why every time they kiss or have sex has to be during some big moment or ~important to the storyline, when it doesn't have to for the other characters. I'm pretty Debbie and her new boyfriend have already kissed more onscreen than Ian and Mickey have in the entire show...
Yes someone finally said itNeed more Lip/Joaquin and less of Lip and all of his love interests Edited by Julie, Mar 25 2015, 02:47 AM.
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I'm not even going to make a comment on it at this point.
They better get a rain check on that for when Ian's let out.
I mean obviously I still liked it but I didn't feel the buildup to this one, it didn't make my heart beat erratically, I didn't replay it over and over again to relive the experience. The best part of it for me was actually when they started undressing and Mickey leaned back in to kiss Ian. I think the fight just made me feel too uncomfortable with the rest which is a shame but it is what it is. I'll do a proper meta post later and probably feel better about it.
They just wanted to go on a date
Sammi is the actual worst. It was so unnecessary too. I mean I know she was doing it to get back at them for Chuckie getting arrested, but Carl did too. That wasn't enough?
That kiss was hot. But yeah it's a bit ridiculous that we only get fade to black sex scenes with them. I'm not sure why every time they kiss or have sex has to be during some big moment or ~important to the storyline, when it doesn't have to for the other characters. I'm pretty Debbie and her new boyfriend have already kissed more onscreen than Ian and Mickey have in the entire show...
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