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| Pikkon vs Perfect Cell @ Gohan | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 21 2012, 09:20 AM (611 Views) | |
| SuperSaiyan1993 | Aug 21 2012, 09:20 AM Post #1 |
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The only tangible and logical fact that can be derived from the part of the series when Pikkon is present is: Pikkon > FPSSJ Goku I do not want to revitalize a Pikkon vs SPC debate. Either way you look at it, Cell was caught off-guard by a Kaioken-akin attack. I thought a good match up would be against Cell @ Gohan, seeing how both he and Pikkon are above Goku, and I'm a little reluctant to put Pikkon at FP Cell's level yet. Winner? |
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| Super Vegetto | Aug 21 2012, 10:07 AM Post #2 |
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SSJ2 is what it takes to beat someone like Perfect Cell. Pikkon is SSJ league for me, because he couldnt knock out SSJ Goku with his strongest atk ( 2 times ). So yea: Perfect Cell @ Gohan > Pikkon |
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| SuperSaiyan1993 | Aug 21 2012, 10:19 AM Post #3 |
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I thought that SSJ2 is what it takes to beat FP Cell. IIRC, SSJ Gohan was holding his own for a brief period of time against Cell. SSJ Goku < SSJ Gohan <= Cell @ Gohan <<< FP Cell The gap between Cell @ Gohan and FP Cell is where SSJ2 is needed. Pikkon can easily fit in the area occupied by Gohan and Cell @ Gohan |
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| Victorious | Aug 21 2012, 04:41 PM Post #4 |
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Is this Perfect Cell pre or post zenkai? Anyway, Pikkon's blazing shoot can basically one shot Cell so it could do the same to gohan. |
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| SuperSaiyan1993 | Aug 21 2012, 04:43 PM Post #5 |
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pre zenkai it doesn't make sense putting Pikkon in the SSJ2 league -- beating SPC--- and then having him lose to a SSJ |
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| Victorious | Aug 21 2012, 04:47 PM Post #6 |
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It's a Kaiokenesque technique, like a Kaioken x 8 or something. Pikkon Blazing Shoot >> SSJ2 Kid Gohan > 'Super' Perfect Cell >>> Full Power Perfect Cell >>>> MSSJ Kid Gohan >> Pikkon >= 100% MSSJ Goku |
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| Hurry My Curry | Aug 21 2012, 04:48 PM Post #7 |
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The fuck nigga?
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Pikkon one-shotted SPC. Takes this clown out easily. |
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| GridZero | Aug 21 2012, 04:54 PM Post #8 |
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Lol...no, not this argument again. Pikkon oneshotted a suppressed SPC. If you want to argue this, then find me one instance in where someone's at Full Power but has literally no aura surrounding them. |
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| Hurry My Curry | Aug 21 2012, 04:56 PM Post #9 |
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The fuck nigga?
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It's Toei land. They work differently no? Either way, nothing suggests that SPC was suppressed. |
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| Victorious | Aug 21 2012, 04:58 PM Post #10 |
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Yeah TOEI is never consistent with auras. I |
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| GridZero | Aug 21 2012, 05:01 PM Post #11 |
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Actually, Toei is very consistent with aura. Lightning, not so much, but aura, yes. Never once have they failed to give someone who's supposed to be at full power, aura. And nothing indicates that SPC is at Full Power either. Why the hell would he need Full Power to beat Base Goku? |
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| Hurry My Curry | Aug 21 2012, 05:02 PM Post #12 |
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The fuck nigga?
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Prove that he was suppressed. I like P's Battle Power guideline. "Always assume Full Power". |
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| GridZero | Aug 21 2012, 05:03 PM Post #13 |
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I already have. No aura. Not even when he takes off to fly. Again, find me even one case in the Toei anime, movies or specials when someone is at Full Power, and they don't have aura. |
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| Hurry My Curry | Aug 21 2012, 05:05 PM Post #14 |
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The fuck nigga?
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Ok. And? Toei works differently than AT. Isn't the Buu Saga and Otherworld Filler evidence of that? Edit- Though I'm not sure if it's true. I was arguing with someone about Broly and he said that Broly had an aura and he hpowered up in M8. He went on to say that Broly ahd the same aura in m10, so he was suppressed there. Toei inconsistency? Edited by Hurry My Curry, Aug 21 2012, 05:07 PM.
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| GridZero | Aug 21 2012, 05:07 PM Post #15 |
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That proves nothing and works in my favor. Toei grants everyone in filler and the movies aura if they're at Full Power. Everyone who was stated at Full Power has aura. Find me a case where there isn't if you want to prove that SPC was at Full Power. Edit: Inconsistency, I believe. And I believe that Broly was at FP the second he turned LSSJ. Edited by GridZero, Aug 21 2012, 05:09 PM.
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| p123 | Aug 21 2012, 05:55 PM Post #16 |
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Pikkon is a step or two above Goku just like Cell was when he was holding back. Pikkon was manhandling Goku very much the same way Cell was . Also Always assume full power is not for TOEI only AT. I have a whole separate list of rules for TOEI. Pikkon w/ Weights is less than Base Goku. If a Base Goku level power used Kaioken to one shot SPC we would never believe it. So just stop it. Edited by p123, Aug 21 2012, 05:58 PM.
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| sei'taer | Aug 21 2012, 07:21 PM Post #17 |
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message bored
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I think we can agree that gohan is dead meat at least right? |
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| Victorious | Aug 21 2012, 08:19 PM Post #18 |
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You don't need an aura to be at full power, go watch Pikkon vs Goku fight, there's plenty of instances where neither have aura during their fight. |
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| A Raving Drunkard once Kenshi | Aug 21 2012, 08:25 PM Post #19 |
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Semi Cell and the Cell Juniors don't have auras the majority of the time they are at full power, I don't think... The former put on an aura when he threw a fit and shit, but long after he had already accessed his full power. Regardless, I ain't touchin' a filler debate with a 20 foot pole, sorry to say. |
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| Blade007 | Aug 27 2012, 06:14 AM Post #20 |
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Cell rapes this clown easily. 1 shotting an off-guard suppressed SPC is nothing special. |
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