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| SSJ Gohan vs SSJ Goten and SSJ Trunks | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 24 2012, 10:23 AM (1,033 Views) | |
| SuperSaiyan1993 | Aug 24 2012, 10:23 AM Post #1 |
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Restrictions: Gohan can't go SSJ2 Gohan can't win because of a random rage boost Goten gave Gohan trouble during training up to the point where Gohan is seriously contemplating the possibility of being surpassed by the kids. Who wins in this 2 vs. 1 battle? |
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| p123 | Aug 25 2012, 04:54 AM Post #61 |
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Trunks essentially gets home , turns Ssj and whoops ass. He's not playing any games and is looking to kill his torturous captors after a lifetime of horror. When Trunks fights Cell , we see Base power is quite impressive. I'm cool with Base Trunks being around the Present Cyborgs. |
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| Cooler | Aug 25 2012, 05:30 AM Post #62 |
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^^ Changed tune a bit. What do you have the difference between Future and Present. Show me all the base powers with the Androids. TBH I don't know you're so resistant to AT changing his mind with Piccolo, why else would there be those comments in the earlier Boo saga. |
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| p123 | Aug 25 2012, 05:44 AM Post #63 |
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I actually just read that part over yesterday. To me it really just seemed like an eager Trunks getting rid of the vermin once and for all. Why mess around? Honestly I just feel like Toriyama would be confused that people would take it that way. I think he would be like, Hey have you not been paying attention? Piccolo is a monster, of course he's not included in that logic you mope! It seems so simple, and perhaps he realised or was told that hey, do you know people might actually take this to be that Piccolo is weaker than these guys? Nah , no way, anyone who read the story knows Piccolo is a beast. Oh alright, let me give them a clear Piccolo > base, although I feel it's unneeded. Damn Cooler this working nights shit is fucking me up. I can't ever sleep! Damn! Might as well talk DB then right? Well I'm using this for my Imperfect Cell Saga time period... Piccolo 500 17 500 18 450 Weighted Piccolo 400 Imperfect Cell 350 SSJ Vegeta 300 So Future Cyborgs probably around SSJ Vegeta or so... Edited by p123, Aug 25 2012, 05:47 AM.
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| Victorious | Aug 25 2012, 09:33 AM Post #64 |
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Gohan wins easily base Gohan >> Kaioshin >> Piccolo >>> Kamiccolo > Android 18 ~ base Kids |
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| Junpei Iori | Aug 25 2012, 09:37 AM Post #65 |
Prepare for the cold, hard fist of Justice
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MSSJ Gohan (Cell Games) : 100 SSJ Gohan (Boo Saga) : 75 - 80 SSJ Trunks (Boo Saga) : 68 - 72 SSJ Goten (Boo Saga) : 68 - 72 MSSJ Goku (Cell Games) : 55 - 60 Note : I have Mirai Androids = Present Androids. |
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| Kamikaze Pyro | Aug 25 2012, 01:37 PM Post #66 |
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Either Vic or Vic Unstoppable said Gohan was on par with Dabura, who was stated to be on par with Cell; if Gohan was a Super Saiyan, that would logically put Dabura around the level of power Cell fought Goku with. |
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| Hurry My Curry | Aug 25 2012, 02:30 PM Post #67 |
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The fuck nigga?
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SSJ Gohan >> SSJ Trunks >= SSJ Goten IMO. Goten couldn't land a single hit on Gohan and called him amazing. There is a gap. Also, that's before the damn budokai. I think that Goten and Trunks got nerfed after the sparring session, but let's not get into that. That turns into another Base Saiyans/Piccolo debate. |
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| Kyouks | Aug 25 2012, 03:19 PM Post #68 |
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Fuck
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@ Vic. Nothing puts Base Gohan > Kaioshin. All the Base Saiyan proof in the Buu Saga goes to Goku and Vegeta. Like P said, Gohan is poop. I've got nothing wrong with Base Goku >> Base Vegeta >>>>>>> Kaioshin > Base Gohan. |
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| Blade007 | Aug 27 2012, 03:06 AM Post #69 |
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Gohan offcourse. Goten couldn't even land a single punch against a defensive gohan. Case closed. |
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| p123 | Aug 27 2012, 06:59 AM Post #70 |
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Zarbon couldn't land anything on Vegeta. So Goten not landing on Gohan doesn't have to mean a large gap. Heck Goku was lucky to even land on Cell and they are supposedly a good match of power. |
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| Blade007 | Aug 27 2012, 07:12 AM Post #71 |
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Bad example. In both instances the opponents were "offensive" not "defensive". I can lose to someone who is weaker than me or I can struggle against a weaker person (if I'm defensive), but once I go offensive, game over. I don't believe Gohan is leagues above Goten, but a BL gohan would absolutely destroy goten fairly easily. Edited by Blade007, Aug 27 2012, 07:16 AM.
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| p123 | Aug 27 2012, 07:17 AM Post #72 |
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What are you saying here? Zarbon and Goten were both offensive. |
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| Blade007 | Aug 27 2012, 07:20 AM Post #73 |
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What I mean is that Gohan was defensive. He was holding back. The examples you stated - in both instances the opponents were offensive. Zarbon - Vegeta = Both offensive Goten - Offensive Gohan - Defensive. Now, if Gohan was offensive you would've a case. Edited by Blade007, Aug 27 2012, 07:20 AM.
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| p123 | Aug 27 2012, 07:22 AM Post #74 |
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That has nothing to do with my point. You said that Goten couldn't hit Gohan thus Gohan >>> Goten I brought up examples of people not being able to hit each other who were only A >= B |
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| Blade007 | Aug 27 2012, 07:26 AM Post #75 |
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I never said Gohan is leagues above Goten. So, ">>>" is not needed. I believe there is a good gap to a point Gohan will dominate easily if he goes offensive. That's why I said Gohan wins. |
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| p123 | Aug 27 2012, 07:27 AM Post #76 |
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That's conjecture. Nothing suggests that Gohan would dominate easily if he goes on the offensive though. Do you have any proof? Or feats? Or just your opinion? |
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| Blade007 | Aug 27 2012, 07:31 AM Post #77 |
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Ok here is the thing - Goten goes all out against a defensive Gohan and couldn't even land 1 punch. So, I think it's safe to say that an offensive Gohan would easily murk him, no? Offcourse it's just my opinion. As long as you have Gohan winning I'm all good. |
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| p123 | Aug 27 2012, 07:33 AM Post #78 |
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Which is exactly why I brought up examples of people who went all out , couldn't land a punch, and didn't get easily murked. They got beat up, but not as you put it. |
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| Syn | Aug 27 2012, 07:35 AM Post #79 |
if ur reading this it's too late
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Why would Gohan/Goten want to murk Goten/Gohan in that sparring match? |
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| p123 | Aug 27 2012, 07:38 AM Post #80 |
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People go all out in sparring all the time. Goten obviously did, he's just not good enough to hit Gohan. |
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