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Fifth Form Cooler vs False Super Saiyan Goku (Movie 5)
Topic Started: Sep 4 2012, 07:57 PM (491 Views)
Syn
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if ur reading this it's too late

Imagine if instead of Goku going SSj again, he instead goes FSSJ, is Cooler still able to go toe to toe with him?

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Goku may also use Kaioken during this form, but he only has 25 seconds of each use of it, his body will not go over its limits.
After each Kaioken use, Goku has to wait a minute to use it again.
Goku may not exceed the use of Kaioken x20


Edited by Syn, Sep 4 2012, 07:57 PM.
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Syn Shenron
Sep 4 2012, 07:57 PM
Imagine if instead of Goku going SSj again, he instead goes FSSJ, is Cooler still able to go toe to toe with him?

Rules:
Goku may also use Kaioken during this form, but he only has 25 seconds of each use of it, his body will not go over its limits.
After each Kaioken use, Goku has to wait a minute to use it again.
Goku may not exceed the use of Kaioken x20


With FSSJ + Kaioken it's overkill if he can pull if off on the first try. Otherwise, Coola insta-kills. FSSJ is probably like a 25x - 30x, unless you believe it's equal to SSJ.
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Even if it's equal to regular SSJ, the SSJ multiplier in movie 5 is ridonkulous.
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sei'taer
Sep 4 2012, 08:19 PM
Even if it's equal to regular SSJ, the SSJ multiplier in movie 5 is ridonkulous.
Is it? It seems to mirror this:

Base Goku & Cooler are roughly even, like Goku & Frieza.

KKx20 Goku doesn't stand a chance against Cooler's true power, kinda like Goku and Frieza.

SSJ Goku pwns Cooler, like Goku and Frieza.

The only thing missing is Cooler's last power-up to rival Goku, like Goku & Frieza.

So, if M5 Base Goku and Namek Base Goku were even, SSJ Goku would be the same, and Cooler would be a decent amount stronger than 50% Frieza. So it's basically still a 50x multiplier.
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The fuck nigga?

M5 >>> M4.
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- FSSJ < SSJ : Cooler will kill Goku with the Supernova attack

- FSSJ <= SSJ -- 2 Possibilities:

(1) Plays out exactly the same -- Goku manages to maintain FSSJ long enough to repel Cooler's Supernova
(2) Not having the energy to maintain FSSJ, Cooler wins with a bang
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Unless the FSSJ multiplier is akin to the Movie 5 SSJ multiplier, then Coola wins, probably pretty easily. If the multiplier is still not asgreat as the SSJ multiplier but still close, then Coola still wins with the Supernova. It's power was enough to make SSJ Goku strain pretty badly and if not for the Kamehameha, would've probably killed him.
There's also the limited time that Goku can use the form, so...
Edited by Captain Cadaver, Sep 5 2012, 10:35 AM.
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The most recent multiplier I've used for "False" Super Saiyan is 10x, a mere pitiful fraction of the true transformation's power. (:P) So no, it wouldn't be any better in the end than a Kaio-Ken x10, I suppose.
Edited by Kaboom, Sep 5 2012, 10:38 AM.
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Sep 5 2012, 10:37 AM
The most recent multiplier I've used for "False" Super Saiyan is 10x, a mere pitiful fraction of the true transformation's power. (:P) So no, it wouldn't be any better in the end than a Kaio-Ken x10, I suppose.
Except that would be 10x base, where he stated Goku can do Kaioken x20 max on top of that for 25 seconds at a time.

Goku - 1
FSSJ - 10
FSSJ Kaioken x20 - 200

Goku - 1
SSJ - 50

FSSJ Kaioken x20 Goku is overkill.
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Sep 5 2012, 10:55 PM
Kaboom
Sep 5 2012, 10:37 AM
The most recent multiplier I've used for "False" Super Saiyan is 10x, a mere pitiful fraction of the true transformation's power. (:P) So no, it wouldn't be any better in the end than a Kaio-Ken x10, I suppose.
Except that would be 10x base, where he stated Goku can do Kaioken x20 max on top of that for 25 seconds at a time.

Goku - 1
FSSJ - 10
FSSJ Kaioken x20 - 200

Goku - 1
SSJ - 50

FSSJ Kaioken x20 Goku is overkill.
Except that in as late as after the Cell Games in the Toei universe, Goku couldn't even handle a Super Kaio-ken, which was probably just his SSJ x2, for more than a few seconds. His MSSJ form also makes it easier for him to maintain his ki in battle, whereas FSSJ's ki drainage was so large that he couldn't maintain it for more than a few minutes. It won't be able to handle any level of Kaio-ken on top of itself.
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