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Peace in Osiris and Spiritus Security
Topic Started: Jul 30 2013, 05:58 AM (250 Views)
Wintermoot
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Thanks for the avvy Wuufu! xD
As you may know, the coup in Osiris has been declared over with a peace agreement between Gatesville, Inc, and the legitimate government of Osiris headed by Cormac Stark. I for one thank everyone in the Spiritus Defense Force and in the region in general that heeded the call to aid Osiris in their time of need. Had this situation ultimately required military support, I'm sure that the SDF would have excelled, and I'm very proud of the numbers we were able to pull and the dedication of everyone involved. The SDF will continue to remain in Osiris indefinitely, until they decide that foreign support is no longer needed.

In the meantime, we turn our attention back to our own affairs. With the Osiris coup fresh in mind, I want to point attention to our own security issues. As a foundered region, fortunately Spiritus doesn't have to worry about a rogue delegate. However, as an active user-created region that maintains a decent military, is growing, and is becoming well-known throughout NationStates, we do have to consider threats to our government from those that would want to influence it or even co-opt it in the name of a foreign entity. This was something mentioned by some of our own Regional Assembly members when they ran for office. Our Citizenship requirements are decidedly lax, our election rules are lax, and our requirements for those running for office are lax. As it stands, someone could move a nation in, sign up on the forums and become a Citizen, and vote or run for office immediately.

The purpose of this topic is to start a conversation about how we can improve this situation without creating hassles for our Citizens that are unreasonable or impeding the flow of fresh blood into the government. It is my hope that the Regional Assembly will take up any ideas discussed here and work on making it law.
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Butterspring
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Just commenting on the part of moving a nation in and running for office. Wasn't Wuufu like that? He was new to the forums and was almost immediately made Minister of Culture. He's also doing a fantastic job.
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Wintermoot
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Thanks for the avvy Wuufu! xD
That's not necessarily what I mean. Wuufu had been here a few weeks before being made Minister of Culture. I'm talking about people that come in while election nominations are already underway. Besides that, Ministers are appointed positions, with no real political power, who can be dismissed at any time. We're talking about elected positions with vast amounts of power over the laws and actions of the region, from which it would be a headache to remove someone from as it would require a recall of them.
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Butterspring
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Another thing: we have a fairly small active user base. Most of us are smart enough to not vote for someone who's new and has not demonstrated what they can do.
Edited by Butterspring, Jul 30 2013, 06:21 AM.
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Wintermoot
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Thanks for the avvy Wuufu! xD
The results of the RA election prove otherwise...no offense to candidates like Denth and Nick who had joined that week, but they had very strong showings in spite of only joining the forums the week prior during nominations.
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Wuufu
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Wintermoot
Jul 30 2013, 06:17 AM
I'm talking about people that come in while election nominations are already underway.
If that is the only issue with current citizen requirements, then I have two possible solutions for people to discuss.

The first is to create a mid-position between Free Spirit and Citizen. This position will have all the same rights as a citizen but will be barred from standing in or voting in regional elections. This position would appear at the start of a regional election, and all mid-position citizens will be promoted to full citizen once the regional election has passed.

The second (and my personal favourite at this time) is to put a time frame on when citizens are eligible to stand in and vote in a regional election. Obviously citizens will still be given all the same rights and privileges elsewhere as well. This should be long enough that it catches people becoming citizen just for a regional election.

From what I hear, I presume most election riggers come into a region, participate in an election, and then disappear off. I don't believe the above will stop someone if they decide to hang around, but at least it will put off 'most' people.
Edited by Wuufu, Jul 30 2013, 07:43 AM.
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Charax
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Some regions have activity requirements. Could work here.
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The Saturnian Republic
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Jul 30 2013, 03:01 PM
Some regions have activity requirements. Could work here.
Despite being inexperienced in both Spiritus's politics and the topic at hand, I'll toss in my two cents.

It seems to me that activity requirements could be fulfilled during the election nomination period, unless the requirement is in particularly large increments or it's a very short nomination period.

The idea that seems the best to is the time lapse for when a citizen can vote. That way, he or she can get a feel for Spiritus and its workings before being able to make decisions about it. And, of course, it will stop the people who come in and take elections.
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Nick
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Stay classy.
Wintermoot
Jul 30 2013, 07:05 AM
The results of the RA election prove otherwise...no offense to candidates like Denth and Nick who had joined that week, but they had very strong showings in spite of only joining the forums the week prior during nominations.
Why thank you! ^_^

I think Saturnian's point has merit. Could a minimum time of, say, 2 weeks of forum activity be a plausible requirement before citizens are allowed to vote/stand?
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Wintermoot
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Thanks for the avvy Wuufu! xD
I just brought the topic up...I figure people will give ideas and the RA will come up with a bill of the measures they feel are best. :P

That being said, how would forum activity be defined? If someone was on but didn't post one day, posted two days, and wasn't online at all 3 days, would that be 2 or 3 days of activity? The simpler solution may be to make it time-based, or to make it based on a more easily quantifiable measure such as post count of we're going by activity.
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