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The Brothers in Arms Meet; In other words: "B.A.M.!"
Topic Started: Jun 13 2014, 03:35 AM (995 Views)
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His Majesty, King Gregorius, was waiting in the Headquarters of the Intelligence Ministry in an undisclosed location (though, some claim it is hidden beneath a very well-known tourist attraction).

He sat in a room which consisted of a long table, a projector (w/screen), and several pitchers of water (as well as several cups). The room had plenty of artificial lighting, but no natural light was available because there were no windows. The walls of the room blocked access to mobile and internet networks, and there were 12 seats, of which only only a quarter would be used.

Gregorius sat, waiting for his "brothers" to be escorted in by the Elitist Guards. Meanwhile, his mind wandered across the possible conclusions which could be produced from the meeting. He didn't really care for the details, so long as he could contain the three pronged pitchfork which threatened Gilead's world influence.

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Sviardia-Nordrvegria
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"Agreed. Since we're all OK with that, I assume at least, how does a first strike plan sound?" said the Emperor;
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(OOC: Zach, you know that it was the fascist in Melzae that did the genocide, and not the communists, right?)

"Agreed," Boris said.

He wasn't sure how he felt about a first strike, so he decided to hear what the others had to say.
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OOC: Well aware.


"Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Before we start anything, we need a reason to go to war. If we go without one, we'll be no better than them in international eyes; A group of Warmongers who acted only in the interest of expanding their own empires or influence." Silvanus was glad the meeting was finally moving to a topic everyone was of a similar opinion of. Perhaps now something might get done. "Right now, we only have one possible reason: The liberation of occupied territory from their last war with Verksana... and its 'allies'. While that can work as justification, it probably would help to see if there were any other valid reasons we could go to war. As I said earlier, we have to be careful about this."
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(OOC: K, I was just making sure. I was slightly confused by your wording.)

"I, for once, agree with the Legantian," Boris said, "we don't need to be fighting a war that we don't have to."
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"Well Dawinia is threatening Medai to try to annex them and they are having 'drills' near their shores. If say a couple of Medaian ships, bases and a small town saw some damage and our own trade ships in the area got attacked we could have a valid Casus Beli, as we say in Valkany. Even more so if Dawinian planes passed over and attacked Valkanian territory in south Lexos and Gilead had a couple of attacks on its southern shore. All of which would be staged of course. No casualties, we aren't fascist Melzae, just a couple of destroyed rusty decommissioned ships, shanty towns and exaggerated reports about injured or dead persons. Rusnya could also pretend one of ts offshore rigs was attacked."pointed out the Emperor;
"And then he continued the whole of Noverra will shout 'Dawinia et Austiana delendae sunt!' in the streets."

He then clicked a button on a remote control and a large map highlighting the attack sights appeared on the screen.


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Silvanus sighed. "No, no, no. For one, we should never assume that a nation not part of the planning process here would take part in this... operation. I know that I wouldn't want to join in something like this without being consulted first, and I expect Amsel feels the same. And Besides," Silvanus shot Valkany's emperor a hard look. "A False Flag operation? That's the most sure-fire way to bring the rest of the world down on us when it is discovered. Not if, when. Because rest assured, someone will find out about it." Silvanus gave a little snort of disgust. "And even if it was a viable plan, I won't let my nation be a part of something so... Dishonorable." He shot Gregorious a glance of frustration, less than half a second, and then used his control to turn off the map. He hoped his friend knew it was frustration at this emperor, and not at him. "If you follow through with this plan, you do it without the support of Legantus. I am, however, still open to other plans." He looked at both Gregorious and, to his own surprise, Boris.
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Gregorius saw the momentary glance from Silvanus, knowing he shared the same angst, yet he showed it less, a practice which he learned over the years. Quickly, he dismissed the Valkanian's idea.

"Our brothers of Verskana and Legantus are correct. We cannot afford to lose the popular support of the international public."

He rubbed his freshly shaven beard and took a few moments to think. Eventually, he said the only thing that made good sense to him.

"We should issue independent requests to Austiana and Dawinia requesting they release the lands acquired during their late dictators' reigns, as it is the only fair thing to do. I was going to propose we do that anyways, as a first and peaceful step. Once they deny this request and the press blows up the story, we should increase our military presences along their borders where and when we can."

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"You could use the bases you just built in Valkany's major ports to move troops in as part of an exercise'." said the Emperor; "Your honour would allow some smart planning, correct?"
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It took all of Silvanus's willpower to keep from beating his head against the table. Instead, he simply said "I think you should let your military commanders deal with the planning. That sort of movement of troops isn't exactly... inconspicuous. Unless there is a valid reason - political instability in the host, terrorist threats against the base, the enemy moving forces close to there - it is just too damn obvious to the enemy that you're planning something." He glanced back at Christian, who nodded. Silvanus turned back. "Give me a week, and I can have the equivalent of two army groups mobilized and ready for combat. Without causing too much suspicion."
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"As you wish." said the Emperor; He took a deep breath and said that which he had left for last; "Gentlemen, I believe it is time I let you know on my thoughts on a certain aspect of our ultimatum. As you have suggested we shall issue one to Austiana and Dawinia to force them to give up their recently captured territories. Dawinia has already given Rendaria and Chanarya sovereignty though not complete, possibly to avoid such an action and probably because the new Emperor isn't a warmongering racist psychopath, unlike his predecessor. I believe that after our ultimatum is released I, using personal communication with Emperor Antonio, with whose country my nation shares good relations, will almost certainly be able to convince him to give up those to territories to Union of Nations control until they hold their first elections. Austiana will probably not follow suit and as such you are free to do anything to force them into submission, though crimes will not be tolerated even against fascists. " he said looking at Boris effectively telling him to control his troops once they're in Austiana; "Even if Dawinia fights us I will not under any circumstances tolerate an abolition of the Dawinian crown nor their colonial empire. Dawinia will at all cases maintain its Emperor and the colonies of Constante Bay and Islas Divinio. Any other scenario would set a bad precedent that could lead to a similar abolition of the Valkanian and Gileadean crowns and colonial empires. And while Gilead as a superpower may have the power to resist this, Valkany is only a superpower the textbooks without her former might and will not be able to, especially after a war. Just like you will not tolerate false flags and colonialism I will not tolerate an abolition of the Dawinian Crown and Colonial Empire." he concluded with a firm look, showing the other brothers that there was no room for negotiation in this specific demand;
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Gregorius was still wondering why Silvanus had chosen to bring an aide to this secret conference, but once the Valkanian's words were uttered, his attention was fully diverted to responding to what he thought was an unnecessary and rather contradictory outburst from the Emperor.

"No one here, I believe, seeks the utter destruction of Dawinia or Austiana. Not only would such a feat be nearly impossible and unethical in the manner of going about it, but punishing entire nations for the acts of their governments is clearly not the way we wish to achieve our goals. Also, you seem to have misunderstood what I meant earlier. I haven't propose to issue official ultimatums. Rather, we will issue completely independent, seemingly non-choreographed letters requesting the complete release of apprehended territories. Our response will be a heavy military presence in Victorium. I will fill my bases and I would expect that you would as well. We will apply whatever pressures we can to force the hands of King Bernhard and Emperor Antonio. Allowing them to keep their titular rule over territories under the ruse of what they want people to believe to be "independence" will set a destructive precedent allowing the old age of imperialism to regain a foothold in our era. Do you, Demetrius, find any qualms with such a strategy?"

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"No I do not Gregorius, yet I want to make sure they keep their crown and rightful territories after the war. Cause let's be honest here; The sun is finally setting on Victorium's Golden Age and after Dawinia and Austiana fall Valkany will be the last remaining Empire in the world. And I don't want that. I'm sure everyone but me would have an interest in a Democratic Dawinia, but I won't stand for that. As I said though I'm fairly sure I can convince Antonio to give up the recently occupied lands entirely. Austiana, you're free to deal with. Call me a selfish old man stuck in his old world of crows and empires, but if I have a say in it Victorium will at least have two crowns left after this is over. If not I fear I might lose mine. The union of nations is not very favorable to colonies and monarchs right now, and after the war they'll be completely hostile. They might end up supporting those memets who want independence at West Sundria or those Negroes at The Cape & Rhodesia Colony. I just wanted this to be clear. At least here I think I can speak my mind among brothers. Speaking of those bases how many troops are you going to move in? They're still not entirely complete and I want to speed the building process up. " said the Emperor sighing after seeing his words had been misinterpreted; He turned to Gregorius since his was the man he trusted the most and the closest thinjg to a brother and fellow monarch at the table. AT least he could understand his concerns.
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As the King took a drink of water, he heard Demetrius speak of being the last Empire and almost choked on his water. "Did he not just admit that his was an Empire only in textbooks?" Gregorius thought to himself.

He maintained his composure and listened to the rest of what the foreign monarch had to say, hoping that he not be too supercilious in the "justification" of being an "empire" and setting more "nonnegotiable" terms.

"Once again, the end goal is to restore full sovereignty to the rightful governments of the lands they have acquired during the reign of their late dictators. No one wants to touch their homelands or force democracy down the throats of either Dawinia or Austiana's populace. As for your claim to convince the Dawinian Emperor to cede the aforementioned territories, I have as much faith in that as I do that Legantus will demilitarize. Don't forget that you previously sent an ultimatum to them yourself, and your relationship with my kingdom is in no way helping your relations with the Dawinians who seem to hold an old grudge against us "rebels" in the Western Hemisphere. Oh, and the Union of nations was proposed by a King and two, actually three now, monarchs sit as members of the Security Council, so there is no negative attitude towards monarchies, so long as there are democratic ideals in place, such as Gilead's National Congress."

He stopped for a second or two and thought about the number of troops he'd be sending to his Valkanian bases, "As brother Silvanus here has suggested, we ought to provide time for our military officials to discuss and cooperate to come to a consensus on such details for the best outcome. Brother Boris, your thoughts?"

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Boris was simply sitting and listening to the emperor's 'rant' (for lack of a better word).

Did I really come all the way here for this, he asked himself.

He was suddenly shook out of his delirium when the King addressed him.

"Personally, I find the emperor's worries about our intentions to be a slight bit paranoid. We have no want, or need, to remove Dawinia and Austiana's monarchs--indeed, doing so may do more harm than good--and I think the emperor's fear of such an action stems from a fear of his own power slipping away. In my country, it's called proyektsiya--or, projection.

"As for the release of territory..."

He thought for a moment, How do I say this without giving away too much information?

He continued, "As a show of good friendship, and in an attempt to curry our favour, the Dawinians have agreed to allow us a say in the further development of Rendarya--so many administrative decisions are made by both Dawinians and our advisers. They have repeatedly sworn that they wish to grant Rendaria independence once its fully developed. Whether or not this is true, I couldn't say."

Though, I sincerely doubt it, he said to himself.

"Further, I actually agree with the King and Silvanus, we should allow our militaries to coordinate future activities together."
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"I think comrade Boris expressed my reasons perfectlyand addressed my concerns. If the reds are Ok with me keeping my piece of gold on my head I think I'm safe. Just the other week we got a Republican Party in Valkany and I got a bit paranoid. Projection eh? I should adopt that word in Valkanian." joked the Emperor; "Anyway it's obvious that without cooperation between our High Commands no military action will be successful. My command and Gilead's already cooperate. Gilead's already cooperates with Legantus' and you know how it goes. Joining them into a joint temporary war council should be fairly easy. Since you have that agreement with Dawinia perhaps you cold be very helpful in putting pressure on them to release the country. After all it'll re-enter your sphere of influence following its liberation."
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