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Merge? + OotP; Something didn't seem right.
Topic Started: Jun 20 2014, 01:00:12 AM (278 Views)
Madame Hooch
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Flavorwise, the Yule Ball is something that only happens for one night, and the light blue doesn't seem like a merge tribe color. I don't actually think this merge is going to be final, but it's here anyway.

Anyway, I have no clue what I'm doing. I'm going to have to figure that out sooner rather than later, which isn't helped by the fact that I'm going to be unavailable for most of today.

EDIT: Yeah, called it kind of. The only other thing that I've changed was adding + OotP to the title, and changing the tense of the description.
Edited by Madame Hooch, Jun 20 2014, 10:36:34 PM.
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Madame Hooch
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Neville, stop making me make all of the decisions!
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Madame Hooch
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Also, Hagrid and I asked the tribe forum whether we could see the seeker forums now that George found it, I don't know if you missed that.
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Madame Hooch
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*in the tribe forum

It also appears the edit button has gone missing for the duration of the challenge.
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Madame Hooch
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Nevermind, I'm slow.
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Madame Hooch
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In addition to the fact that loading a page makes it actually load like three times, I now can't click and drag on here either.

Something is really weird, and I'm not going to bother trying to figure it out.
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Rufus Scrimgeour
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Q1: How are you settling into your new tribe? How are your connections with the players you've already interacted with? Any new players you like?
Q2: Did your placement and tribe surprise you?
Q3: Did the placements of any other players surprise you?
Q4: Did the Yule Ball yield any information that could help you?
Q5: Do you see any former allies becoming less attached to you during this tribal phase?
Q6: Who is the biggest threat on your tribe?
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Madame Hooch
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1: Fair enough. I have an alliance with Figg and her pet, and I'm as cordial as I can be with everyone else considering the fact that I'm the slowest PM writer ever. (Which really may not be hyperbole.)

2: Somewhat, though I guess just under the bottom half isn't bad considering that everyone that I had no contact with, I really had no contact with and therefore was really low on quite a few people's while hopefully being in the top 4/5 of the rest of them.

3: Peeves. Seriously, I'm considering doing the math to figure out what the average placement would have been for him without me putting him second to last, and that sounds like a lot of work. I want him to be voted out this EC, but with him getting first place I don't see that happening.

4: A lot less than it should have. The main things though were that Figg seems to really want to work with me for some reason, which worked out really well for this tribe, (seriously, you can't beat simultaneous alliance offers.) and that I don't think Fenrir isn't angry at me because the first thing I did with regards to him was mention the Ravenclaw alliance, when he had apparently already got confirmation about it from two other people. If I want a chance to actually win this game instead of just getting decently far, Fenrir is probably going to need to play a big part in that.

5: Possibly. I think my ties to Fenrir/Luna are safe though. The person I am absolutely most worried about what they think of me is Tonks. I still have no clue where she stands other than with Fenrir, but if it's not with Peeves then I think it would be in my best interest to F3 with her and Fenrir, with Neville being the fourth if that ends up working out. As nice as all the Gryffindors are, they are all far too attached to each other to actually think that I'd have a chance against them en masse. This is still all purely theoretical though, so I'm barely going to try to nudge things in that direction. I still will if my relationship with Neville improves, but that is only an incredibly distant possibility at this point.

6: Myself really. Not as in I'm the biggest threat overall, just the biggest threat to my future specifically. I think I'm pretty much guaranteed to be safe for this entire phase unless I screw up massively. The biggest threat overall though would probably be Figg?
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Madame Hooch
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I talked to him about the Voldemort vote that was supposed to happen, but it was late at night, and I screwed up word usage and called it "the Seamus vote." I think that may have set him off, and if it did, I feel terrible about it.

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I really don't know what I have to say about this, other than the fact that I'm going to need to reread EVERYTHING I've heard about that EC with this statement in mind and see how much it affected things.
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Madame Hooch
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Wait, I'm going through this PM of Neville's excruciatingly slowly, and I just noticed that he asked to work together at the bottom of it despite the fact that he sent it as I was just finishing up my question answers.

This might actually work out.

For now though, I'm closest to Figg. At early merge, I'll be closest to Luna, and if I can manage to stall a Neville vote for that length of time, then I'll consider backstabbing those two.

I kind of want to do a full game runthrough of this strategy now and see exactly how feasible it is. I really need to wait for the results of this TC though before even considering that.

No I'm not planning on picking one of EC or TC and sticking with it.
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I changed my mind. There is an external threat on this tribe: Hagrid. I need to stay allied with Figg in order to stay allied with Luna once we get to merge, but Hagrid needs to go before then or else the Gryffindors will just be far too powerful. How am I supposed to get to him though? I'm going to try to convince Figg that we need to just dump Voldemort now, because if that happens then Neville has a decent chance of becoming just as strong of an ally to both of us that Voldemort was, and Neville actually has a chance of making it past the first vote at merge. After Voldemort is gone I should play up this alliance with Neville while also continuing to string George along. Even in that scenario, I think Draco is the next one that gets voted out, and I don't think we're going to three TC's before merge.

Actually, if Peeves is voted out then I probably should start trying to throw challenges...

Anyway, I've done nothing but just think for like the past two hours, and this all goes to crap immediately if I'm reading Neville wrong. So much for waiting around and seeing how things go.
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Aaand right after posting that I get a PM from Figg that is making me seriously reconsider this.

#@!$ morality.
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I think this exchange warrants posting in my confessional, because I can't think of a better way to put it into words.
Hooch
 
Just wondering, why do you care about Voldemort surviving so much? Right now, it seems like we could get majority in so many ways that if it's just for the numbers we don't really need him that much, especially if Peeves, Stan, or Snape is voted out this TC. And I really don't know who I'd want to vote out either. Right now I'm leaning Draco because of reasons I'm not entirely sure of myself.
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Ok, I've decided that I'm just going to be completely honest with you. Even though we haven't been able to PM for long, I trust you a lot and I would like nothing more than to work with you closely this game. I haven't actually told anyone else this, but the reason why I've been so conflicted about Voldemort since Durmstrang is that, completely out of the blue, he told me he wanted to go to the Final 2 with me. Before he said this I considered him your average ally. We both happened to be part of the majority in Gryffindor and while I still would've been hesitant to turn on him, I don't think I'd have been protective of him to the extent that I have been. Of course, I just as much as anyone know how hard it can be to talk to him. And I've known for a long time now that I'm not going to be able to take him to the end. I honestly can't count the number of times people told me that Voldemort was dragging my game down and essentially implying that he was a burden I should just let go of. However, especially in Durmstrang and even now I just feel so conflicted. I mean, I don't want to backstab him just because other people don't like him. He can be really frustrating sometimes but he's never shown me any reason not to trust him, so I feel like not trying to protect him would be a betrayal in itself. As much as I try to convince myself otherwise, there's probably not much difference between voting him out myself and just letting it happen. Obviously now that I'm telling you this I've come to the decision that it'll probably have to happen, and if you want to vote Voldemort out, that's ok with me.

I'm sorry, this is probably a much more rambly and much less clear response than you expected or wanted when you asked the question, but it's gotten to the point for me where I've been starting to avoid the game because of the conflict, and I need to stop that.
Hooch
 
All this time, and I still think the best topic to bring up right now is the absolute first thing I talked with anyone about in the game: The sorting hat. It is absolutely not a coincidence that any of us ended up on the tribes that we did. One of the questions on the application was what you think your strategy for this game would be. One of the answers was by backstabbing everyone. Pretty much no one would admit to that up front, so the people who ended up in Slytherin were probably just the leftovers, so they were mostly people who were inactive. Another option was to prioritize the challenges, and just look at George for an example of that. As a Ravenclaw, I said that I wanted to take a more strategic route and calculated route. Because of that, there's absolutely no way that I'd continue hanging on to a lost cause if it didn't benefit me in some way, but that's not necessarily true about you. I've been afraid of the Gryffindors since the beginning, because they were chosen for their loyalty, and just look; five of the six are still here. That's not just by luck.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is that from my point of view voting out Voldemort seems obvious, but that's because we have different styles of play so I really don't think I should be deciding for both of us.

That being said, the only other person I've talked to so far since the challenge has been Neville, and he asked if him and I could work together, which I think makes every single person in the tribe. One thing that was mentioned is why all of us ended up in the bottom half of the popularity list, and frankly we agree that Voldemort is probably the only reason why you're here. Here's a quote from him specifically:
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Personally, I rated Figg kinda low, just because I've felt a little wary about the her and Voldemort situation for a long time. I really like her, and I considered her an ally on Durmstrang, but I have no way of working with Voldemort, while she really wants to save him. I think her own game would be better without him, and I'd definitely be more comfortable with her.
I'd completely be open to working with Neville if you are, and I think the position he's in right now would make him a more reliable ally than anyone else here for both of us. I really probably should talk more with Hagrid, George, and Draco before making any decisions though, and for now I can't think of anything else to say. Sorry if all I did was just make the situation harder.
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To be honest though, I haven't actually talked to any of the other three about a Voldemort vote, but I think that's what they'd all want anyway. You could still fight to keep him safe, and I could take full responsibility for backstabbing him, because I'm not sure how much you'd be able to do in this situation anyway.
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Yes, I can't say I haven't been thinking about the Sorting Hat as well. I guess I went into this game with the ambition to try and just be really really loyal, to valiantly protect my allies, vanquish my enemies.. all that fairy-tale type stuff. Obviously it hasn't worked so well though, as I can not be a good ally to you while also being a good ally to Voldemort. If I try both then I know I'm just going to be sealing my own fate in the game, and I've decided now that I'm going to try and adopt more of your thinking and do my best to win the game. I was thinking the same about 5 former Gryffindors remaining in the game, and I agree with you that there's probably more to it than luck. I can say though, that I honestly feel closer to you than I do to the other former Gryffindors, with Voldemort being a possible exception, but you know where my thoughts are at with him. Hagrid I've always been a bit distanced from, I'm not sure why. Luna I was really close to in Gryffindor, but we didn't get the chance to reconnect during the Yule Ball. And Stan is someone I've never talked a great deal of game with. I mean, don't get me wrong, I like them all and would be up for working with any of them, but for some reason I've come to trust you a great deal in such a short space of time and it kind of amazes me. (I know this sounds incredibly corny but I'm being serious).

Thanks for telling me what Neville said, and while it's what I've always suspected, seeing it does kind of hit home the fact for me. I think I have been quite blinded by the alliance with Voldemort and so if you think voting him off would be the best move for us then I'll trust you on that. I appreciate your offer to take responsibility but it's not fair for me not to take part of it. It's possible, likely even, that I wouldn't be able to help it, but if you give the word then I'll support you in voting for him and that's that.

I myself was actually quite shocked that you were so low on the list, as I found you really easy to talk to and genuine right from when we started PMing.

And yes, I would be open to working with Neville. Most of my hesitance in doing so previously was his desire for dead Voldemort, but that's not an issue for me anymore and I agree with you that he'd be a good ally.

And no, you've actually helped me realize a great deal about what I need to do and helped me lots with that, so there's absolutely no need to be sorry.


Right now, I think I have more people who truly trust me than I do words to describe how I feel about this. What am I doing? What am I going to do? What happened to me always being a boring UTR/MOR? Is everyone just going to hate me after this is over?

Do I actually have a good chance to win this?
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I can’t believe this isn’t a dream
My lucent orb is fading bright
I can’t believe it was a dream
So hard to reignite myself
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Madame Hooch
Jun 23 2014, 12:39:19 PM
Do I actually have a good chance to win this?
Obviously!
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Well, a Myrtle vote now is slightly problematic. The complete unknowns are still around, and every single EC from here on until the end of the tribal phase is probably going to be taking out a player that could have voted with us.

Well, apparently Neville likes Peeves, so it looks like I might have to work with him after all. I don't think I've tanked him yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if I was at the bottom of his list, so I definitely have a ways to go.
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