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Probably my final list; Yet another crack at the List XD
Topic Started: Aug 1 2006, 09:55 PM (664 Views)
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ya but I rebanned tribe since we have sinister. I didnt want decree+goat/control to be overgood. But you do have a point I guess. Just that the stalling in this format is going to be a little high. I'll consider it after testing.
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Aug 10 2006, 09:55 PM
Dark hole allows ppl to totally recover from being outplayed. With no skill involved.

And Cyber Stein doesn't? Dark Hole is no more broken than Mirror Force or Torrential Tribute, except that those are traps and are slower =/
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I dont see them banning breaker hes a staple yes but not really ban worthy. I think they should just leave him at 1.
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Aeto
Aug 11 2006, 02:10 AM
And Cyber Stein doesn't? Dark Hole is no more broken than Mirror Force or Torrential Tribute, except that those are traps and are slower =/

Cyber stein should be banned as well.

And If you think Mirror force and torrential
are on the level of dark hole there is really no hope for you.
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Spectre
Aug 11 2006, 02:43 PM
And If you think Mirror force and Dark hole are on the level of dark hole there is really no hope for you.

I assume you mean Torrential Tribute isn't on the same level as Dark Hole right?

Sorry, but I thought you might want to fix that mistake.
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chaosmage
Aug 11 2006, 04:21 PM
I assume you mean Torrential Tribute isn't on the same level as Dark Hole right?

Sorry, but I thought you might want to fix that mistake.

You didnt assume you inferred rather easily as I was paraphrasing him.

But cheea. Torrential < dark hole. Force < dark hole.
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True, but assume sounds better then infer.
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Aug 11 2006, 11:17 AM
I dont see them banning breaker hes a staple yes but not really ban worthy. I think they should just leave him at 1.

I added some staples and removed more staples. People now have room in their decks to use different cards then the usual 20-25 staples or near staples.
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Aug 1 2006, 10:04 PM
I'd have no problem playing under this list.

Only complaint I'd make is about semi-limiting DD Assailant and Warrior Lady. It would be giving Chaos Return even more help....and quite frankly, it doesn't need any more.

This list would be okay if the following mistake wasnt made more than 1 Exiled force, and Last Will. first of all you can destroy 2 monsters this way; play last will summon Exiled Force, trib Exiled Foce, bring out an Exiled force, and trib it too. boom two of opponents monsters are gone. and the main reason of limiting Last will was not Cyber Stein, so if you think banning Stein will let last will come back to 3 you r wrong you'd have to limt Rescue cat to one (and thats not going to happen any time soon) and limit Milus Radiant to one (and that wont happen either)
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Spectre
Aug 11 2006, 01:43 PM
Cyber stein should be banned as well.

And If you think Mirror force and torrential
are on the level of dark hole there is really no hope for you.

Now I remember why I don't visit here anymore. Arrogant little scrubs like you who don't even respect those who have bigger reputations than you. No hope for me because I think that TT and Mirror Force are along the lines of Dark Hole? Let's see then:

They're all Mass Removers
They all come in handy in a pinch
Two are used in 99% of decks in competitive play right now, and DH would be used in 99% of decks if it were allowed.

Let's see. So, comparing all those reasons, and the tiny stipulations to each one (Mirror Force: Attack Mode only, Dark Hole: Every monster, including yours, Torrential: A monster must be Summoned)


I always thought that DHQ used to be a friendly community, where those who hated Pojo got together. Now I realized that the vermin from Pojo have found their way in here and are as hateful as ever.

And go ahead, warn me for flaming. I don't care. Spectre needs a good thrashing.
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Aeto
Aug 12 2006, 12:42 AM
Spectre
Aug 11 2006, 01:43 PM
Cyber stein should be banned as well.

And If you think Mirror force and torrential
are on the level of dark hole there is really no hope for you.

Now I remember why I don't visit here anymore. Arrogant little scrubs like you who don't even respect those who have bigger reputations than you. No hope for me because I think that TT and Mirror Force are along the lines of Dark Hole? Let's see then:

They're all Mass Removers
They all come in handy in a pinch
Two are used in 99% of decks in competitive play right now, and DH would be used in 99% of decks if it were allowed.

Let's see. So, comparing all those reasons, and the tiny stipulations to each one (Mirror Force: Attack Mode only, Dark Hole: Every monster, including yours, Torrential: A monster must be Summoned)


I always thought that DHQ used to be a friendly community, where those who hated Pojo got together. Now I realized that the vermin from Pojo have found their way in here and are as hateful as ever.

And go ahead, warn me for flaming. I don't care. Spectre needs a good thrashing.

1. You don't have greater anything than me.

2. You think Dark hole = TT and force. And I am the scrub? I lol'd

Dark hole is see card play card. Mirror forces activation and the amount of damage it can inflict is directly based on how good a player you are facing. Against some1 good you will rarely use force for advantage.

Even more so with torrential as I can literally force you to waste your turn summon and a monster in order to activate should i merely stop summoning.

So therefor If you cant see that you really do know nothing and you should quit this game.
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Spectre
Aug 12 2006, 10:06 AM
Aeto
Aug 12 2006, 12:42 AM
Spectre
Aug 11 2006, 01:43 PM
Cyber stein should be banned as well.

And If you think Mirror force and torrential
are on the level of dark hole there is really no hope for you.

Now I remember why I don't visit here anymore. Arrogant little scrubs like you who don't even respect those who have bigger reputations than you. No hope for me because I think that TT and Mirror Force are along the lines of Dark Hole? Let's see then:

They're all Mass Removers
They all come in handy in a pinch
Two are used in 99% of decks in competitive play right now, and DH would be used in 99% of decks if it were allowed.

Let's see. So, comparing all those reasons, and the tiny stipulations to each one (Mirror Force: Attack Mode only, Dark Hole: Every monster, including yours, Torrential: A monster must be Summoned)


I always thought that DHQ used to be a friendly community, where those who hated Pojo got together. Now I realized that the vermin from Pojo have found their way in here and are as hateful as ever.

And go ahead, warn me for flaming. I don't care. Spectre needs a good thrashing.

1. You don't have greater anything than me.

2. You think Dark hole = TT and force. And I am the scrub? I lol'd

Dark hole is see card play card. Mirror forces activation and the amount of damage it can inflict is directly based on how good a player you are facing. Against some1 good you will rarely use force for advantage.

Even more so with torrential as I can literally force you to waste your turn summon and a monster in order to activate should i merely stop summoning.

So therefor If you cant see that you really do know nothing and you should quit this game.

1-I think there's 80% of DHQ and about 10% of Pojo that would disagree with you there, buddy. Oh yeah, and if you went down to my card store, 100% of the players would disagree, seeing how I am the most dominant player there (Not always winning, thanks to stupid Stein. However, I ALWAYS get 2nd place at least) So, what have you done lately? Been to a SJC or Regs? Don't take your oversized internet ego and blow it up on me, because it will only make you look like an idiot. And that's what you and your whole gang have. Oversized ego because you win at a game where you use a system that's so randomly luck based, the best of players can look like jank players (I'm talking about YVD, of course)

2-I never SAID that Dark Hole=Force and Torrential. I said it was ALONG the same lines. Besides, I see none of them as a problem. Bring em' all back for all I care. Or they could all be banned. Whatever happens.

Oh yeah, and TT can make your opponent can waste a summon. Mirror Force can save you from a Donny Z hit. You can't use Dark Hole on your opponent's turn. You have to get it on your turn, and you're not just gonna activate it when you get it. Anyone with half a functioning brain will wait to play it for the opportune moments.

Oh well. I'm done wasting my time with mindless scrubs like you, who do nothing but flame people who have different opinions than themselves. I'm off to go dominate people at my card store again. Have fun with your YVD duels!
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Aeto
Aug 12 2006, 11:43 AM
Spectre
Aug 12 2006, 10:06 AM
Aeto
Aug 12 2006, 12:42 AM
Spectre
Aug 11 2006, 01:43 PM
Cyber stein should be banned as well.

And If you think Mirror force and torrential
are on the level of dark hole there is really no hope for you.

Now I remember why I don't visit here anymore. Arrogant little scrubs like you who don't even respect those who have bigger reputations than you. No hope for me because I think that TT and Mirror Force are along the lines of Dark Hole? Let's see then:

They're all Mass Removers
They all come in handy in a pinch
Two are used in 99% of decks in competitive play right now, and DH would be used in 99% of decks if it were allowed.

Let's see. So, comparing all those reasons, and the tiny stipulations to each one (Mirror Force: Attack Mode only, Dark Hole: Every monster, including yours, Torrential: A monster must be Summoned)


I always thought that DHQ used to be a friendly community, where those who hated Pojo got together. Now I realized that the vermin from Pojo have found their way in here and are as hateful as ever.

And go ahead, warn me for flaming. I don't care. Spectre needs a good thrashing.

1. You don't have greater anything than me.

2. You think Dark hole = TT and force. And I am the scrub? I lol'd

Dark hole is see card play card. Mirror forces activation and the amount of damage it can inflict is directly based on how good a player you are facing. Against some1 good you will rarely use force for advantage.

Even more so with torrential as I can literally force you to waste your turn summon and a monster in order to activate should i merely stop summoning.

So therefor If you cant see that you really do know nothing and you should quit this game.

1-I think there's 80% of DHQ and about 10% of Pojo that would disagree with you there, buddy. Oh yeah, and if you went down to my card store, 100% of the players would disagree, seeing how I am the most dominant player there (Not always winning, thanks to stupid Stein. However, I ALWAYS get 2nd place at least) So, what have you done lately? Been to a SJC or Regs? Don't take your oversized internet ego and blow it up on me, because it will only make you look like an idiot. And that's what you and your whole gang have. Oversized ego because you win at a game where you use a system that's so randomly luck based, the best of players can look like jank players (I'm talking about YVD, of course)

2-I never SAID that Dark Hole=Force and Torrential. I said it was ALONG the same lines. Besides, I see none of them as a problem. Bring em' all back for all I care. Or they could all be banned. Whatever happens.

Oh yeah, and TT can make your opponent can waste a summon. Mirror Force can save you from a Donny Z hit. You can't use Dark Hole on your opponent's turn. You have to get it on your turn, and you're not just gonna activate it when you get it. Anyone with half a functioning brain will wait to play it for the opportune moments.

Oh well. I'm done wasting my time with mindless scrubs like you, who do nothing but flame people who have different opinions than themselves. I'm off to go dominate people at my card store again. Have fun with your YVD duels!

You have just proved your nuBhood by bragging about local sotre dominance.

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Dark Hole is no more broken than Mirror Force or Torrential Tribute


So yes you did in essence say Dark hole =Force and TT. which makes you irrefutably nub. Good players can make it so that you can never TT or force them for advantage. Not the case with Dark hole.


So yes please. Go back to your card store where Dark hole = torrential tribute.
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Look. Dark Hole is the better card out of the 3. When we make convos here we are always talking about playing against a good player. Noobs or noobish people are not considered when making decisions.

Also mr ehero whatver your name is. Last will and Exiled is not broken when we have goats. the exiled last will combo is still makes 1-1s and nothing more. Also that combo isn't even a game winning move It's like saying having smashing ground at s is bad because you can use it twice or three times in the same turn.
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Aug 12 2006, 12:53 PM
Look. Dark Hole is the better card out of the 3. When we make convos here we are always talking about playing against a good player. Noobs or noobish people are not considered when making decisions.

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