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Phoenix is bad.
Topic Started: Aug 30 2006, 04:59 PM (581 Views)
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Phoenix is an AMAZING monster once it is out. The problem with it is that it is a slower deck and the meta right now is really aggro. Therefore it is more held back by the current meta (which won't last long) than it is by the format which promotes phoenix.
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Do you mean Cyber Pheonix?? As it would be good in a Chimeratech Overdragon deck keeping it safe (Unless they Futured it)
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Phoenix is stopped by Warrior Toolbox. It's always too easy to stop. If it becomes CC, as Chaosmage pointed out, ppl will just run 2-3 BTHs. Phoenix can be a good archetype, but never Tier 1.

Oh, and Dimensional Fissure >> Phoenix. Infact, Dimensional Fissure is almost a counter to anything except Return.
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Aug 30 2006, 08:16 PM
No it wont. Peopel will never run Phonix as CC in this format.

I'm running Soul control o.o
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While Phoenix's effect is quite useful with all the creature destruction elements running around, its atk for a two sac monster is below par. I don't know about anyone else but it would be more than worth suiciding a resurrected Zaborg or Mobius just to get rid of it......or any one of the DD Family if you're that desperate.
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Aug 31 2006, 04:06 AM
While Phoenix's effect is quite useful with all the creature destruction elements running around, its atk for a two sac monster is below par. I don't know about anyone else but it would be more than worth suiciding a resurrected Zaborg or Mobius just to get rid of it......or any one of the DD Family if you're that desperate.

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Aug 31 2006, 03:13 AM
I'm running Soul control o.o

Thats too slow for this format.
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Grand Master Nikku
Aug 31 2006, 08:31 AM
Thats too slow for this format.

Not really.

Not if run correctly.
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Aug 31 2006, 08:40 AM
Not really.

Not if run correctly.

How can you say that? Soul exchange is a SLOW card b/c of its effect. If you run three soul exchange it will make you winning slower giving you opponent a chance to strike back. You should know this seeing as ur a self proclaimed "deck builder".
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Aug 31 2006, 08:45 AM
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Aug 31 2006, 08:40 AM
Not really.

Not if run correctly.

How can you say that? Soul exchange is a SLOW card b/c of its effect. If you run three soul exchange it will make you deck slow. You should know this seeing as ur a self proclaimed "deck builder".

Umm Just because i say Soul Control doesn't mean i mean Soul exchange.

DUH

I mean brain control etc...

plus i do run soul exchange but only one
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Aug 31 2006, 08:47 AM
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Aug 31 2006, 08:40 AM
Not really.

Not if run correctly.

How can you say that? Soul exchange is a SLOW card b/c of its effect. If you run three soul exchange it will make you deck slow. You should know this seeing as ur a self proclaimed "deck builder".

Umm Just because i say Soul Control doesn't mean i mean Soul exchange.

DUH

I mean brain control etc...

plus i do run soul exchange but only one

You said soul control. Not brain/mind control. Since you have mroe brains then souls then its brain control. Different in the card soul exchange or brain control.
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the deck is called soul control.

Duh..
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alright here it goes. First off, phoenix BY ITSELF is a disadvantageous card. A 2 tribute that anyone can just kamikaze with a monarch, and of course is PHAILS against stein.

Of course what DOES make phoenix playable is the almighty apprentice swap. Although this format it has dropped to tier 2 from the lack of chaos, it can still be run competitively.

This is how phoenix should be played.

Set apprentice.

either have another monster in attack in and swap it, or wait for the opponent to attack it.

bring hand of nephythys out at a point in which it can actually LIVE for a turn <_<

flip hand and use effect to bring out nephythys

and even THEN you want to make sure they dont have any sort of presence, or like I mentioned earlier they will just summon a monarch or stein and kamikaze or pwn, respectively

Case and point: Phoenix is good when played right in conjunction with other cards, sucks alone.
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Aug 31 2006, 09:12 AM
the deck is called soul control.

Duh..

not when its brain control. Obv~
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Aug 31 2006, 09:49 AM
Josh Killer Orton
Aug 31 2006, 09:12 AM
the deck is called soul control.

Duh..

not when its brain control. Obv~

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