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PT Nation RP (OOC discussion)
Topic Started: Jul 12 2015, 02:23 AM (182 Views)
Swith
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Alright, the idea came up in chat, so I'm gonna copypasta it here for perhaps more thought/input from others.

[02:17] <swith|posting> we should do a pt community for TAB. make a world, populate it with our alt account PT nations
[02:17] <agy> it just involves troopwanking :p
[02:18] <Torsii> It would be kind of neat.
[02:18] <agy> that would be sick, although it would be hard to keep up RPs for it as well as the current ones
[02:18] <Torsii> I like to be unique, so I'd see what everyone else was doing before I did something, lol.
[02:18] <swith|posting> rps would be on ns, and members could post using their mains, if they so wanted
[02:18] <Torsii> And yeah, lol.
[02:18] <swith|posting> one post a week rp
[02:19] <Torsii> Either a Hungarian kingdom, Imperial China, or a Native American tribal nation.
[02:19] <swith|posting> i'm calling hungarian :P
[02:19] <Torsii> Like the Iroquois, or Seminole...
[02:19] <Tiltster> Being unique is awesome.
[02:19] <Tiltster> I call Ancient Persia.
[02:19] <agy> massilia for me :3
[02:19] <agy> or any greek-celt colony
[02:20] <swith|posting> agreeky
[02:20] <agy> celtic steel with greek phalanxes
[02:20] <Tiltster> lol
[02:20] <agy> *nerdgasm*
[02:20] <Torsii> Apache War Band, lol.
[02:20] <swith|posting> torii that would be awesome, though
[02:21] <Torsii> rush in with stone hammers and scalp shit, then run back into the woods.
[02:21] <Torsii> Or Seminole, and run around with muskets and tomahawks on the war path.
[02:21] <agy> "Come out of there you barbarians! Fight like men!" *takes tomahawk to the face*
[02:21] <agy> "That was incredibly ungrateful of you!"
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Just spit-balling ideas for past nations I might make for the region if this ever gets off the ground:
EireneHighfort-alt where the Eirenian Tribe actually successfully creates a Republic nearly two thousand years before the current Highfort Republic
Greco-Roman culture
Citizen military (conscription, not maintained during peacetime)
Democratic government (direct democracy, vote on all issues)
The VerbotenNomad barbarian tribe whose primary source of income and food is raiding; they periodically encamp to raid certain areas before moving onCelt, Iberian, and other European tribal culture
Military culture (all freemen double as warriors)
Tribal government (ruling family dominates all other tribal families, monarchy system)
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I think we'd ought to define (loosely) what will make this PT concept, well, PT. I don't mean to put the gameplay into hard PT, but the difference between a crossbow and a musket warrants a little concern. How far do we advance, or how far back to we stay?
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I'd honestly be happy if we didn't cross into muskets.
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Jul 29 2015, 10:11 PM
I'd honestly be happy if we didn't cross into muskets.
Agreeing with this. Crossbows is as far as I would go, and even then I would strongly recommend that they not comprise the core of anyone's army. If only because:

1. They pierce most armor, so anyone fielding a melee force will be at a severe disadvantage.
2. It's tactically unsound to rely on ranged weaponry as your core; this didn't change until the advent of machine-guns - even during the first World War, melee cavalry played its role on the eastern front.
3. It's very difficult to RP out combat results. Melee combat requires flanking and open field maneuvers which are easy to track, where ranged combat tends to be dependent on dice rolling and thus unpredictable. Additionally, since this is PT, combat will be taking place with units no smaller than around a hundred men and more likely leaning towards the size of a Roman Cohort (480 men). RPing out shot results for such a large unit is unwieldy and not interesting since we can't get to know each member individually beyond maybe a select few.
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Agymnum
Jul 29 2015, 11:16 PM
Swith
Jul 29 2015, 10:11 PM
I'd honestly be happy if we didn't cross into muskets.
Agreeing with this. Crossbows is as far as I would go, and even then I would strongly recommend that they not comprise the core of anyone's army. If only because:

1. They pierce most armor, so anyone fielding a melee force will be at a severe disadvantage.
2. It's tactically unsound to rely on ranged weaponry as your core; this didn't change until the advent of machine-guns - even during the first World War, melee cavalry played its role on the eastern front.
3. It's very difficult to RP out combat results. Melee combat requires flanking and open field maneuvers which are easy to track, where ranged combat tends to be dependent on dice rolling and thus unpredictable. Additionally, since this is PT, combat will be taking place with units no smaller than around a hundred men and more likely leaning towards the size of a Roman Cohort (480 men). RPing out shot results for such a large unit is unwieldy and not interesting since we can't get to know each member individually beyond maybe a select few.
I'm not just addressing crossbows, that was just an example, I'm asking how far back we do we stay and just how far in 'progression' do we go before we cap the limit on technology.
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Jul 29 2015, 11:24 PM
Agymnum
Jul 29 2015, 11:16 PM
Swith
Jul 29 2015, 10:11 PM
I'd honestly be happy if we didn't cross into muskets.
Agreeing with this. Crossbows is as far as I would go, and even then I would strongly recommend that they not comprise the core of anyone's army. If only because:

1. They pierce most armor, so anyone fielding a melee force will be at a severe disadvantage.
2. It's tactically unsound to rely on ranged weaponry as your core; this didn't change until the advent of machine-guns - even during the first World War, melee cavalry played its role on the eastern front.
3. It's very difficult to RP out combat results. Melee combat requires flanking and open field maneuvers which are easy to track, where ranged combat tends to be dependent on dice rolling and thus unpredictable. Additionally, since this is PT, combat will be taking place with units no smaller than around a hundred men and more likely leaning towards the size of a Roman Cohort (480 men). RPing out shot results for such a large unit is unwieldy and not interesting since we can't get to know each member individually beyond maybe a select few.
I'm not just addressing crossbows, that was just an example, I'm asking how far back we do we stay and just how far in 'progression' do we go before we cap the limit on technology.
Late Middle Ages, up to the Early Renaissance (1400s) would be my suggestion. During that period, gunpowder was in its infancy and pike warfare alongside melee cavalry was the order of the day. The most we'd have therefore is small gunpowder contingents - mostly scare or shock troops rather than effective musket or arquebus lines - and inaccurate artillery such as bombards. Warfare is still primarily melee and non-gunpowder ranged.
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-nodnod- sounds good to me, thank ye ^_^
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Agymnum
Jul 29 2015, 11:27 PM
Mincaldenteans
Jul 29 2015, 11:24 PM
Agymnum
Jul 29 2015, 11:16 PM
Swith
Jul 29 2015, 10:11 PM
I'd honestly be happy if we didn't cross into muskets.
Agreeing with this. Crossbows is as far as I would go, and even then I would strongly recommend that they not comprise the core of anyone's army. If only because:

1. They pierce most armor, so anyone fielding a melee force will be at a severe disadvantage.
2. It's tactically unsound to rely on ranged weaponry as your core; this didn't change until the advent of machine-guns - even during the first World War, melee cavalry played its role on the eastern front.
3. It's very difficult to RP out combat results. Melee combat requires flanking and open field maneuvers which are easy to track, where ranged combat tends to be dependent on dice rolling and thus unpredictable. Additionally, since this is PT, combat will be taking place with units no smaller than around a hundred men and more likely leaning towards the size of a Roman Cohort (480 men). RPing out shot results for such a large unit is unwieldy and not interesting since we can't get to know each member individually beyond maybe a select few.
I'm not just addressing crossbows, that was just an example, I'm asking how far back we do we stay and just how far in 'progression' do we go before we cap the limit on technology.
Late Middle Ages, up to the Early Renaissance (1400s) would be my suggestion. During that period, gunpowder was in its infancy and pike warfare alongside melee cavalry was the order of the day. The most we'd have therefore is small gunpowder contingents - mostly scare or shock troops rather than effective musket or arquebus lines - and inaccurate artillery such as bombards. Warfare is still primarily melee and non-gunpowder ranged.
Oh boy, I know a few towers outfitted with it. :P Why? Because new tech is fun tech to add. Hehehe...
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I believe we're looking at Classical Antiquity now?
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The fuck I have 416 posts here?

@Min: we should name the lake between our nations. Any suggestions? I fine with something that reflects your nation's heritage. I'll slap "Loch" in front of it as contribution from mine. :P
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Lol Cer. Yeah, I'll need to take a look at map again and think on it some :p
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Jul 31 2015, 07:48 PM
I believe we're looking at Classical Antiquity now?
That is correct, we are looking at Classical Antiquity as the time period. Originally I was going to be okay with anything from the earliest civilizations up to the Renaissance but, as you guys have explained, that's not really fair nor balanced to those role-playing as earlier nations as they will necessarily be weaker in wartime and gimped at conferences and trade agreements. Classical Antiquity will thus be our focus, we can progress to later eras if everyone agrees or an RP event demands it.
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Agymnum
Aug 1 2015, 04:04 PM
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Jul 31 2015, 07:48 PM
I believe we're looking at Classical Antiquity now?
That is correct, we are looking at Classical Antiquity as the time period. Originally I was going to be okay with anything from the earliest civilizations up to the Renaissance but, as you guys have explained, that's not really fair nor balanced to those role-playing as earlier nations as they will necessarily be weaker in wartime and gimped at conferences and trade agreements. Classical Antiquity will thus be our focus, we can progress to later eras if everyone agrees or an RP event demands it.
I like this as an ongoing game changer as we progress, nothing too fast, but should keep every advancement interesting between all nations.

@Cer, the big ol' lake is named is known to the amazons as "Τα δάκρυα της Αρτέμιδος" Tears of Artemis
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