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Robin Williams
Topic Started: Aug 12 2014, 02:23 PM (1,976 Views)
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weird movie but i'm not sure better casting was possible
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Aug 12 2014, 04:52 PM


weird movie but i'm not sure better casting was possible
I rewatched this and one of his stand-up films last night. Popeye was much better than I remembered, tho not necessarily crying out for critical rehabilitation. whatever the problems were it wasn't williams, he was very talented. :(
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i liked this one too back in the day. i was kind of obsessed with the grail legends. dunno how it would hold up now. still a cool idea tho
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It's my fave Gilliam. At least he goes easy on the wide angle for once.

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this will always be my favorite :')



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lauren bacall just died too :(
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oh cmon, who cares? she was like a million years old (approx). honestly, who cares about robin williams either. they're just actors. people die every second. nobody on here knew either of these people. i feel nothing but contempt for anybody who gives a shit about celebrities dying

you know what? i'm glad they both died. take that
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Oh no, Lauren Bacall died? :-/
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Aug 13 2014, 12:34 AM
you know what? i'm glad they both died. take that
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oh cmon, who cares? she was like a million years old (approx). honestly, who cares about robin williams either. they're just actors. people die every second. nobody on here knew either of these people. i feel nothing but contempt for anybody who gives a shit about celebrities dying
I guess it's pretty obvious that some of us should be feeling bad about the death of certain people involved in films. I mean, it's a film board.
I've enjoyed many appearances of Robin Williams in films and the same goes for Bacall, and I had hoped to see both in more films in the future. :-/
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Aug 13 2014, 01:07 AM
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you know what? i'm glad they both died. take that
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ad hominem. lame. thought you were above personal attacks, m_penalosa
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oh cmon, who cares? she was like a million years old (approx). honestly, who cares about robin williams either. they're just actors. people die every second. nobody on here knew either of these people. i feel nothing but contempt for anybody who gives a shit about celebrities dying
I guess it's pretty obvious that some of us should be feeling bad about the death of certain people involved in films. I mean, it's a film board.
I've enjoyed many appearances of Robin Williams in films and the same goes for Bacall, and I had hoped to see both in more films in the future. :-/
well, at least you're being honest. but think about what you're saying. you're sad that someone died because you wanted to consume more stuff that she created. a human died, and you're sad because you can't consume as much stuff
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ad hominem = "you're ugly, so you are wrong"
insult = "you're ugly"

not usually pedantic about anything, but it's pathetic when people try to bolster their position by mixing these up, whether intentionally or not.
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Aug 13 2014, 04:20 AM
ad hominem = "you're ugly, so you are wrong"
insult = "you're ugly"

not usually pedantic about anything, but it's pathetic when people try to bolster their position by mixing these up, whether intentionally or not.
obviously he was implying that i was wrong, or that something i said was wrong, or that my reasoning was wrong, basically that something i did or was doing was wrong and would perhaps be not wrong if i went sober for 78 days. duh. be for real

also i'm not usually pedantic about anything (except everything) but i wasn't trying to bolster my position by mixing them up. even if i did mix them up (i didn't) and even if i were trying to bolster my position (i wasn't), i'd have been trying to bolster my position and i'd have failed due to mixing them up. what you're saying is akin to remarking that someone who crosses the street and gets smashed by a truck was "trying to cross the street by getting smashed by a truck"

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oh yea I should mention I put you on ignore after making that post because I don't want it to look like the first thing I did upon joining the forum was find a good candidate to be my prison b*tch. sorry everyone, I'll try to be a force for friendliness.
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Yeah yeah yeah, Curtis went on the same provocation tirade when Roger Ebert died. And he pretends he's not a troll.

Anyway, this thread is not about Curtis. It's about someone far more talented and entertaining that him.

RIP Robin
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Some general sadness for the loss of people (and or their work) that we admired, even from a distance, is no great sin as far as I can tell. It's not as if anyone here is moping around with celebrity obsessed scars from self-flagellation or anything. I'm amazed that you can't tell there is a difference between the two (or maybe you can and you just don't care to mark the distinction).
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Yeah yeah yeah, Curtis went on the same provocation tirade when Roger Ebert died. And he pretends he's not a troll.

Anyway, this thread is not about Curtis. It's about someone far more talented and entertaining that him.

RIP Robin
more personal attacks? is this sort of behaviour seriously allowed in this community? for shame...

anyway, i'd care more if it weren't such a classic cineastic post i.e. a post filled with errors. 1. i don't pretend i'm not a troll 2. i'm more talented than robin williams at literally everything because he's dead 3. a "provocation tirade" is not a thing and that phrase should not be used ever 4. this thread is about me because i'm a star, baby, everything's about me

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Aug 13 2014, 05:29 AM
Some general sadness for the loss of people (and or their work) that we admired, even from a distance, is no great sin as far as I can tell. It's not as if anyone here is moping around with celebrity obsessed scars from self-flagellation or anything. I'm amazed that you can't tell there is a difference between the two (or maybe you can and you just don't care to mark the distinction).
some excellent points, jand. thank you for bringing them up. i see what you're saying but my main issue, as i alluded to in response to wba, is that any relationship that someone in this community (or on other forums, or on facebook, or on tumblr, or anywhere i've seen responses) has with robin williams is strictly as a consumer of his goods/services. they do not know him as a person. thus, feeling sad that he's died is actually incredibly selfish as it's responding to a loss of human life by feeling sad because, to use wba as an example (not picking on him, it's how many people are behaving), he won't get to consume any more of the person's goods/services

"I've enjoyed many appearances of Robin Williams in films and the same goes for Bacall, and I had hoped to see both in more films in the future."

that's exactly what wba said and it's true for many of the people about whom i'm ranting right now. they're not actually sad because the person died, but because they won't make films anymore. it is unbelievably selfish if you think about it

the ethical thing to do, in my opinion - but keep in mind i'm the #kingoflogic not the #kingofethics - is to not pretend to give a shit about the death of someone about whose life (as opposed to work) you don't actually care at all
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Some general sadness for the loss of people (and or their work) that we admired, even from a distance, is no great sin as far as I can tell. It's not as if anyone here is moping around with celebrity obsessed scars from self-flagellation or anything. I'm amazed that you can't tell there is a difference between the two (or maybe you can and you just don't care to mark the distinction).
some excellent points, jand. thank you for bringing them up. i see what you're saying but my main issue, as i alluded to in response to wba, is that any relationship that someone in this community (or on other forums, or on facebook, or on tumblr, or anywhere i've seen responses) has with robin williams is strictly as a consumer of his goods/services. they do not know him as a person. thus, feeling sad that he's died is actually incredibly selfish as it's responding to a loss of human life by feeling sad because, to use wba as an example (not picking on him, it's how many people are behaving), he won't get to consume any more of the person's goods/services

"I've enjoyed many appearances of Robin Williams in films and the same goes for Bacall, and I had hoped to see both in more films in the future."

that's exactly what wba said and it's true for many of the people about whom i'm ranting right now. they're not actually sad because the person died, but because they won't make films anymore. it is unbelievably selfish if you think about it

the ethical thing to do, in my opinion - but keep in mind i'm the #kingoflogic not the #kingofethics - is to not pretend to give a shit about the death of someone about whose life (as opposed to work) you don't actually care at all
While I agree with you completely, I think pointing all this stuff out is a bit unnecessary on this forum. I'm pretty sure that everyone here is well aware of the main reasons that the deaths of such celebrities is... bothersome. They're not exactly the people on tumblr talking about how much they're crying because Robin Williams had changed their life and formed a special connection with them and the loss really hit them personally and uhh muh asjk ldffl
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In that respect, it is sad to hear about Bacall's death because she was a very talented and admirable actress.
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"that's exactly what wba said and it's true for many of the people about whom i'm ranting right now. they're not actually sad because the person died, but because they won't make films anymore. it is unbelievably selfish if you think about it"

Well at least you admit it's ranting (ha ha). If everyone knew that Robin Williams were to never appear in public again, do you really think people would have cared any less? Of course we don't know Bacall or Wiliams as real people, but we do know a part of them through their work and have developed connections with them--albeit in a limited, one-sided fashion--so it's only natural to express some remorse over their demise (especially a demise as tragic as Williams': We know that he is a real person who died before his natural time. We know that he had connection with real people. We know he suffered. I have been sad over the death of fictional characters before in literature and film).

Of course there may be a cultural phenomenon occurring in which we know more about our favorite celebrities than we do about our neighbors and family members; in which we feel more for the simulacrum than the reality-- but that's neither here nor there in regards to public sympathy/mourning for the death of people we have admired. There is a limit to this mourning and to this feeling of connection toward people we have never personally met, but there's a... I don't know... a transcendent aspect to art (even bad art--and even the word 'art' is somewhat limited here because it goes beyong that, of course) that I don't think can be so easily dismissed
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Um, yeah, mourning of any sort is pretty much inherently "selfish" as well as largely cultural universal among humankind. The dead have either moved on to whatever afterlife if you believe in that, and are satisfied/happy/above petty human concerns, or they're just dead and don't have any feelings about anything at all if no afterlife is your preference, so mourning is always about what "we" lost, and by that it's generally the felt loss of some connection to our past, some memories of another time when the person who died provided "us" with something considered meaningful As well as a reminder of our own mortality and the fragility of life.

Individually some of "us" may not sign on for that or might find the methods or practices in vogue regarding death to be distasteful, but be that as it may, criticizing people for their sorrow is at least as tacky or distasteful as the sorrow itself could be since that too is selfish and serves little greater purpose than an attempt to separate oneself from the perceived herd. Or is there some great gain to be had by ending mourning? Or is this just a celebrity thing? In which case is it about mourning at all, or just using that moment as a convenient excuse to score extra shock attention when people feel down? Actually, nah, I don't really even want an answer, believe what you want about it and the same for Williams, Bacall or whoever.
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Yeah yeah yeah, Curtis went on the same provocation tirade when Roger Ebert died. And he pretends he's not a troll.

Anyway, this thread is not about Curtis. It's about someone far more talented and entertaining that him.

RIP Robin
more personal attacks? is this sort of behaviour seriously allowed in this community? for shame...

anyway, i'd care more if it weren't such a classic cineastic post i.e. a post filled with errors. 1. i don't pretend i'm not a troll 2. i'm more talented than robin williams at literally everything because he's dead 3. a "provocation tirade" is not a thing and that phrase should not be used ever 4. this thread is about me because i'm a star, baby, everything's about me.
Oh please, please, please make yourself out to be a fool again by giving me a cogent reason as to why that's not a 'thing', whatever the hell that means.

And since I did use that phrase and you're going on another provocation tirade, it seems you do care. I would assume the anger is additionally a projection of your insecurity over how much more talented Robin Williams is than you, even as he is departed.

RIP Robin
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well, at least you're being honest. but think about what you're saying. you're sad that someone died because you wanted to consume more stuff that she created. a human died, and you're sad because you can't consume as much stuff
Yes, thats what I said. Got a problem with it? ;)
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