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Robin Williams
Topic Started: Aug 12 2014, 02:23 PM (1,977 Views)
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Aug 13 2014, 04:04 PM
Um, yeah, mourning of any sort is pretty much inherently "selfish" as well as largely cultural universal among humankind.

Well put. Also the rest of greg's post. But that sentence says it all.

I'm mourning about the death of Williams similar to how I would be mourning if my favorite chocolate candy bar was taken off the market (or probably a bit less, as he wasn't one of my favorite actors), though I do aknowledge that he was also a person, bla bla.
Edited by wba, Aug 13 2014, 06:55 PM.
To please the majority is the requirement of the Planet Cinema. As far as I'm concerned, I don't make a concession to viewers, these victims of life, who think that a film is made only for their enjoyment, and who know nothing about their own existence.

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I understand and respect that you're not happy with my mourning (or my way of mourning) KFV, but honestly there's nothing I can do about it. I'm mourning, that's that. And the way is of course completely personal and though it might seem similar to the way others feel, deep down it's not, cause my associations and reasons are my own. As they are for everyone else.
To please the majority is the requirement of the Planet Cinema. As far as I'm concerned, I don't make a concession to viewers, these victims of life, who think that a film is made only for their enjoyment, and who know nothing about their own existence.

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Aug 13 2014, 06:53 PM
I'm mourning about the death of Williams similar to how I would be mourning if my favorite chocolate candy bar was taken off the market (or probably a bit less, as he wasn't one of my favorite actors), though I do aknowledge that he was also a person, bla bla.

I understand and respect that you're not happy with my mourning (or my way of mourning) KFV, but honestly there's nothing I can do about it. I'm mourning, that's that. And the way is of course completely personal and though it might seem similar to the way others feel, deep down it's not, cause my associations and reasons are my own. As they are for everyone else.
this is very liberal usage of the word mourning and that's sort of my point. you're treating this human being like a chocolate bar

let's bust an analogy out here

1)
bob: snickers was taken off the market
jim: oh i don't care about that. i don't like snickers anyway

2)
bob: snickers was taken off the market
jim: oh that sucks! i loved snickers

3)
bob: robin williams died
jim: oh i don't care about that. i don't like robin williams anyway

4)
bob: robin williams died
jim: oh that sucks! i loved robin williams

1 and 2 are acceptable social behaviour. 3 isn't. why not? because it's treating human life with a flippancy more appropriate for discussions about chocolate bars. the relationship between 3 and 1 is identical to the relationship between 4 and 2. thus, if the flippancy in 3 is more appropriate for discussions about chocolate bars (1), then the flippancy in 4 is also more appropriate for discussions about chocolate bars (2)

so you see? saying "oh that sucks! i loved robin williams" is just as flippant as saying "oh i don't care about that. i don't like robin williams anyway"
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Aug 13 2014, 06:33 PM
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Aug 13 2014, 06:48 AM
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Aug 13 2014, 05:25 AM
Yeah yeah yeah, Curtis went on the same provocation tirade when Roger Ebert died. And he pretends he's not a troll.

Anyway, this thread is not about Curtis. It's about someone far more talented and entertaining that him.

RIP Robin
more personal attacks? is this sort of behaviour seriously allowed in this community? for shame...

anyway, i'd care more if it weren't such a classic cineastic post i.e. a post filled with errors. 1. i don't pretend i'm not a troll 2. i'm more talented than robin williams at literally everything because he's dead 3. a "provocation tirade" is not a thing and that phrase should not be used ever 4. this thread is about me because i'm a star, baby, everything's about me.
Oh please, please, please make yourself out to be a fool again by giving me a cogent reason as to why that's not a 'thing', whatever the hell that means.

And since I did use that phrase and you're going on another provocation tirade, it seems you do care. I would assume the anger is additionally a projection of your insecurity over how much more talented Robin Williams is than you, even as he is departed.

RIP Robin
i never said i didn't care. i said "i'd care more if....." implying that i do care somewhat

sick english degree bro
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I see nothing wrong with #3. Sometimes when people die, it doesn't affect me, and if Robin Williams were one of them, that would be my prerogative. I might argue that "Finally dead, hooray! Robin Williams was such a turd!" was indefensible...

Or I might not.
Edited by Lencho of the Apes, Aug 14 2014, 04:10 AM.
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Aug 14 2014, 03:57 AM

so you see? saying "oh that sucks! i loved robin williams" is just as flippant as saying "oh i don't care about that. i don't like robin williams anyway"
I don't know what you're talking about.

All I said was basically that "I respect that you don't give a shit about Williams dying" and that "I mourn him like I would a passing of a great chocolate bar" - or smoething similar. Don't know which is or isn't (more) of an acceptable social behaviour and don't care. Maybe it's fun for you developing some societal and/or philosophical ideas about this (which i don't get), so whatever.
Edited by wba, Aug 19 2014, 11:42 PM.
To please the majority is the requirement of the Planet Cinema. As far as I'm concerned, I don't make a concession to viewers, these victims of life, who think that a film is made only for their enjoyment, and who know nothing about their own existence.

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