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2015 GC:G27 Perceval Le Gallois Vs 27 Down
Topic Started: Jun 23 2015, 12:00 AM (1,116 Views)
javierquintero
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SCFZ GENRE CUP 2015
GROUP STAGE - THIRD ROUND


Match 027

GROUP B

On this thread voting will be on


Perceval Le Gallois (France, 1978) Eric Rohmer
Manager: Greg X
Genre: GOD IS LOVE, BUT KEEP YOUR HANDS TO YOURSELF

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27 Down (India, 1974) Awtar Krishna Kaul
Manager: Tuggingonmustaches
Genre: MATRIBHUMI'S MALAISE


Participants will have seven day to issue their votes. Therefore, this match will end on Monday June 29th at 7:00 pm (GMT -5, Bogotá, Lima *If you are not sure about time please check my local time going to my profile information

After the voting period is over, the votes will be counted and the results published.

Each user can vote on any match as long as s/he has watched both films paired against each other. Please cast your vote using the titles of both films in the following manner:


PERCEVAL LE GALLOIS– 1 or 0
27 DOWN – 0 or 1


And kindly BOLD your selection, if possible.

Managers are not allowed to vote on matches their own directors participate in, so Greg X — manager for Perceval Le Gallois and Tuggingonmustaches– manager for 27 Down, cannot vote in this match.

During Group Stage, each genre will have three matches. By the end, according to victories, votes for and votes against, those with best scores will pass to second round.

If you have yet to see either film and still don’t have access to them, please send me a pm so I can assist you locating the the films to view.

VOTERS ARE REQUESTED TO POST THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE COMPETING FILMS ALONG WITH THEIR VOTE. THANK YOU.
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perceval le gallois – 1
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really enjoyed 27 down: editing, sound, acting, pretty much all of it. but i'm going to vote for one of the rohmers that made me really start enjoying rohmer (and the fact that it reminds me of, and probably influenced, silvestre doesn't hurt.)
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PERCEVAL LE GALLOIS – 0
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PERCEVAL LE GALLOIS – 1
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I enjoyed both movies a lot, but I have to give Rohmer the vote for making a movie unlike anything I've seen before. It feels like what medieval movies would have looked like if they had had the technology back then. It's especially interesting how Rohmer mostly updates Chretien de Troyes' verse to modern French, but keeps a few archaisms in there. It's pretty funny when they're talking about kissing using the verb baiser, which originally meant "to kiss" but now basically just means "to fuck."
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tough choice as i really enjoyed both films. as brian said perceval is much like silvestre, with a touch more humor. i almost expected the singers would break out with "the tale of brave sir robin" from monty python's holy grail. but i think i'm going with the wonderful indian trains... <heart>

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This is damn tough, Perceval was such an achievement and enjoyed it thoroughly from start to finish, but Sanjay's deeply touching helter skelter odyssey to find something, anything, to quell the lost despair of his languishing misplaced spirit ( in that setting, plus humour, plus trains) wins the day. <heart> <heart> <heart>

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27 DOWN – 1


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PERCEVAL LE GALLOIS – 0
27 DOWN – 1

Not as good as Charulata, but I think I'm finally getting Indian vibe, which was a very distant to me in Manoos and some other Ray films.
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Got to admit I thought 27 Down was kinda wonderful and I'm not looking forward to seeing a consciously artificial-looking medieval ballad, a kooky colourfest of cardboard and papier maché, unless it stars John Cleese and Michael Palin. Hope I surprise myself, though.
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PERCEVAL LE GALLOIS – 1
27 DOWN – 0

Perceval can be ponderous at times but is still exquisite in its own way. It's stylised to the point of looking like a segment on a children's TV show (and the use of third-person is a tad excessive in adding to the artifice), but it's engaging for those very qualities - airy and playful, high-brow and irreverent at the same time.

The flashback narrative in 27 Down was more lucid than the Proustian fever dream it looked like it was going to succumb to at the start, which made it a more sensitive recollection of the protagonist's life than I was expecting, with flashes of poignancy coming through. However, it also meant that the rambling existential journey of the final act didn't evoke for me as much as it might have otherwise.
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27 DOWN – 1



Edited by Brotherdeacon, Jun 27 2015, 02:09 PM.
“Somebody has to do something, and it’s just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. “
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when greg comes back, remind me to give him a high-five for showing this movie.
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PERCEVAL LE GALLOIS – 0
27 DOWN – 1

It wasn't just me that got a whiff of Monty Python from Perceval, then. That burlesque feel mostly surfaced during the bits where Perceval was misunderstanding the code of chivalry and doing all the wrong things for the right reasons... which I guess he outgrew as he developed more knightly polish.

Ingenious and charming, but pretty-much irrelevant to anything I'm ordinarily interested in pursuing.

My vote goes to 27 down; as artfully made and more 'relatable' to me. I wish the film had been more generous toward the coconut-oil woman; she was as unhappy as the other two, but the narrative framed her as the badguy gal in the triangle through no fault of her own, in a way that made Sanjay look a bit more like a self-pitying teenager.
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Jun 28 2015, 03:00 PM
when greg comes back, remind me to give him a high-five for showing this movie.
Pretty sure Greg quit this place in disgust.
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It wasn't just me that got a whiff of Monty Python from Perceval, then.
My favorite part of a recent evening with John Smith was when a friend of mine asked him privately if his early films were inspired by Monty Python and Smith replied enthusiastically with "absolutely"! :wub:
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PERCEVAL LE GALLOIS – 0
27 DOWN – 1

27 down is my favorite new discovery of the Cup. It features both one of the more touching love stories I've seen of late and insightful observations the pluses and minuses of living life on your own terms (or not.) Visually exciting and the train metaphor is well used. So glad the Cups allow us to discover films this good.

I used to think my love of the films of Eric Rohmer knew no bounds. With Perceval, I have found those bounds.
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I choose to remain optimistic that greg's return is a matter of when rather than if. after all, Karl is wrong about oh so many things. :D :-/

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VOTING IS CLOSED


PERCEVAL LE GALLOIS - 4
27 DOWN - 10

CONGRATULATIONS TO "MATRIBHUMI'S MALAISE" (Manager: Tuggingonmustaches)!!!


Thanks a lot to Greg X for bringing us Perceval Le Gallois as part of "GOD IS LOVE, BUT KEEP YOUR HANDS TO YOURSELF"
Edited by javierquintero, Jun 30 2015, 12:07 AM.
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