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2015 GC:G31 Ariel Vs The Mother and the Whore
Topic Started: Jul 7 2015, 01:57 AM (700 Views)
javierquintero
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Gifts must affect the receiver to the point of shock. - Walter Benjamin
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SCFZ GENRE CUP 2015
GROUP STAGE - THIRD ROUND


Match 031

GROUP D

On this thread voting will be on


Ariel (Ariel, Finland, 1988) Aki Kaurismäki
Manager: dong king
Genre: ROMANCE AT DA DOCKS

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The Mother and the Whore (La maman et la putain, France, 1973) Jean Eustache
Manager: Mischa
Genre: STEPS TO PECULIARITY


Participants will have seven day to issue their votes. Therefore, this match will end on Monday July 13th at 9:00 pm (GMT -5, Bogotá, Lima *If you are not sure about time please check my local time going to my profile information

After the voting period is over, the votes will be counted and the results published.

Each user can vote on any match as long as s/he has watched both films paired against each other. Please cast your vote using the titles of both films in the following manner:


ARIEL– 1 or 0
THE MOTHER AND THE WHORE – 0 or 1


And kindly BOLD your selection, if possible.

Managers are not allowed to vote on matches their own directors participate in, so dong king — manager for Ariel and Mischa– manager for The Mother and the Whore, cannot vote in this match.

During Group Stage, each genre will have three matches. By the end, according to victories, votes for and votes against, those with best scores will pass to second round.

If you have yet to see either film and still don’t have access to them, please send me a pm so I can assist you locating the the films to view.

VOTERS ARE REQUESTED TO POST THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE COMPETING FILMS ALONG WITH THEIR VOTE. THANK YOU.
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rischka
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at first i wondered why i'd never heard this was a comedy. by the end of course it was hard to keep from crying. jean-pierre leaud is a perfect jackass in so many familiar ways. i love aki and ariel but like wba said they've got virtually no chance here. group of death indeed :toast:

ARIEL– 0
THE MOTHER AND THE WHORE – 1
Edited by rischka, Jul 7 2015, 02:20 AM.
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brian d
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ariel – 0
the mother and the whore – 1

aki's films don't work for me for some reason. maybe because i'm a humorless person. :ermm: (not to take away from the eustache, which is great.)
I will talk breathlessly about Spanish and Portuguese cinema, João César Monteiro, Ritwik Ghatak, and Jacques Rivette, and hardly ever about anything else.
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ariel - 1
the mother and the whore - 0

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ARIEL– 0
THE MOTHER AND THE WHORE – 1
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mesnalty
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ARIEL– 0
THE MOTHER AND THE WHORE – 1

I tend to like Aki and Ariel is no exception, but man, dong king has had some tough luck with the matchups. It's been a long time since I've seen The Mother and the Whore, but I vaguely remember it as a masterpiece. Aki's deadpan black humor also kind of works against the emotional resonancy of the story here, because the way the father's suicide is staged, and the protagonist's reaction to it, seems to place the film in somewhat of an allegorical mode, right out of the starting gate.
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Ariel features a hilariously dispassionate romance and its deadpan humour masks warmth and affection, but at the end of the day, it's Kaurismaki just doing what he always does.

By contrast, I'd previously seen The Mother and the Whore, but being closer in age to the characters now revealed it to be a truly sensitive exploration of male-female dynamics at this time of life. Dialogue that cut to the heart, spoken by characters stripped emotionally bare, made it a draining experience once again.

ARIEL – 0
THE MOTHER AND THE WHORE – 1
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tuggingonmoustaches
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javierquintero
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Since we hadn't noticed that the subtitles for The Mother and the Whore are from a really awful translation, now you can find a much better version of the film and subs in the secret blog, also with a better visual quality.
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Gylfi
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ARIEL – 0
THE MOTHER AND THE WHORE – 1

I would place The Mother and the Whore on my top 10 favorite films list. Really enjoyed Kaurismäki's film though!
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Mauries
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The Economy stinks, bees are dying, and movies are pretty much all sequels now
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Mario Gaborovic
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ARIEL – 0
THE MOTHER AND THE WHORE – 1

Besides usual praise, I was grabbed by at-first-look insignificant detail that raises many questions with me about post-68 liberation, or any accomplished stage of human (d)evolution: Alexandre's undoing of dishes. :scratch:
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About 15 hours to go.
Edited by tuggingonmoustaches, Jul 13 2015, 10:46 AM.
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ARIEL – 0
THE MOTHER AND THE WHORE – 1

"The four cardinal points of the compass? In reality, there are only three: North and South."
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javierquintero
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ARIEL – 1
THE MOTHER AND THE WHORE – 0

Two great films in terms of forms. At this point my vote goes to the types of spirits and fable I feel more sympathy for.
Edited by javierquintero, Jul 14 2015, 01:57 AM.
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VOTING IS CLOSED

ARIEL - 2
THE MOTHER AND THE WHORE - 9

CONGRATULATIONS to Mischa and the genre STEPS TO PECULIARITY

Thanks a lot to dong king for bringing us ARIEL as part of the genre ROMANCE AT DA DOCKS

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if i had to lose i'm happy that i lost by such a margin that i propelled mischa into the top 4 third place finishers. i faced some damn good movies and i'm excited to what these three managers come up with in the rest of the tourney!
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