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France vs. Argentina
Topic Started: Aug 13 2017, 03:46 PM (906 Views)
bure420
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France: Les Creatures (Agnes Varda, 1963) [sci-fi]

Argentina: El rufián (Daniel Tinayre, 1961) [thriller]

Vote for either xFrance or xArgentina (italicization unnecessary).

The deadline for voting is 12:00 AM CST on Sunday, August 27.

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Final score: France 5, Argentina 5.
Edited by bure420, Aug 27 2017, 07:41 AM.
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ooooooooooh a new match
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mesnalty
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A few words about my pick:

Les Creatures is an outlier even in Varda's singular filmography, certainly one of the strangest things she's done. It was very poorly received on its release, and Varda even went so far as to use some of the film stock to construct a cabin she called My Cabin of Failure. But I like it quite a lot; it's a bizarre mixture of sci-fi and meta-fiction with a heavy dose of visual experimentation, plus it's one of Brian's beloved lighthouse movies.
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It conjures willy-nilly
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Oh wow, I just happened to look here and Les créatures is one of my top 3 discoveries of this year. But I can't vote in good conscience because I haven't seen Argentina's entry.

It's too bad Varda relented to the public's verdict that it was a failure. Besides being full of quirky imagination, it also makes a nice point that humans aren't very good at playing gods (contrasting Piccoli's manipulations in the chess game in the tower with Deneuve's more "proper" act of creation at the end).
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This one could go either way so I'll just balance out the votes for now. Enjoyed both pretty immensely, and found my favorite Varda feature to date!

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Posted ImageLes créatures - Posted ImageEl rufián: 2-2

Four days left.
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el rufián is quite good, but does it have catherine deneuve, and a lighthouse, and chess, and eva dahlbeck, and michel piccoli scaring a child with a dead cat? :scratch: not really a fair fight. xfrance
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I discovered "El rufián" not long ago, it's almost unknown outside Argentina and it was never released in Spain. And the film is very good, well-written-constructed-directed and particularly brilliant at the beginning and the end.
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xArgentina , by a hair. Creatures was more ambitious, Rufian was more fully realized.
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xFrance

I have to agree with the above assessments of Les Creatures, which was odd and jarring in just the right ways to tickle my fancy. And for all its weird flourishes, it still felt unmistakeably like Varda.

The Ruffian was a rough and lurid affair that reminded me of Vertigo more than once, with as much focus on the Kim Novak character as the Jimmy Stewart one.

Two curious discoveries - a good match all-round. :toast:
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yeah this is a tough one!! and it's tied 4-4 :O

think i'm gonna sleep on it :sh:
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no time to sleep, voting ends in just over an hour!
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oh seriously? dammit. ok. then i'll go with varda. :sly: xFrance
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what Lencho said...
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damn i didn't finish the argentinian movie. i really liked the french one tho. not sure who i would've voted for, i'm only about half done the argentinian one
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Final score: France 5, Argentina 5.
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I tried to watch El rufián on YouTube yesterday, but the print was so dark and blurry it was worthless. Oh well, I'm happy enough to see my beloved Créatures in a tie.
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frankly i love carnival noir but... all the things brian said above ^_^
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Thanks to mesnalty and all the voters. Great match.
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Fun match!
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