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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 11 2017, 03:13 PM (1,291 Views) | |
| bure420 | Sep 11 2017, 03:13 PM Post #1 |
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deadpan darling
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Germany: World on a Wire (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1973) [sci-fi] Iran: Minus (Kazem Mollaie, 2009) [sci-fi] Vote for either xGermany or xIran (italicization unnecessary). The deadline for voting is 12:00 AM CST on Monday, September 25. If you need the link or password for the blog, please let me know. Final score: Germany 13, Iran 1. Edited by bure420, Sep 25 2017, 04:55 AM.
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| FLABREZU | Sep 11 2017, 06:20 PM Post #2 |
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This is the actual movie that I picked: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057718/reference |
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| rischka | Sep 11 2017, 09:01 PM Post #3 |
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nazi trumps fuck off!!
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so you're saying it's not world on a wire?? because that's like 3 1/2 hrs long. not that i wouldn't watch it
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| meg | Sep 11 2017, 09:18 PM Post #4 |
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another Edgar Wallace ? https://www.criterion.com/films/27742-world-on-a-wire?q=autocomplete want |
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| Lencho of the Apes | Sep 11 2017, 10:58 PM Post #5 |
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Let's go do some crimes
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Not knowing which movies are actually in competition is a level of disorganization I'm not willing to put up with.
Edited by Lencho of the Apes, Sep 11 2017, 10:59 PM.
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| bure420 | Sep 11 2017, 11:40 PM Post #6 |
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deadpan darling
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Maybe disorganization isn't the right word. I have a spreadsheet with everyone's picks. However, FLABREZU decided to change his pick Saturday night, by informing me (orally) that his pick was "Der Zenker"... then not sending me a message with any information. I tried for half an hour this morning to find out what "Der Zenker" meant. I even searched "nker" in FLABREZU's log, but nothing showed up, which means even "Der Zinker" isn't there. So how could I possibly have found out what he meant? In the end, I set up the rules to be what I thought would be foolproof. Everyone sends in their movies beforehand and has to message me if they want to change a pick. Months to think about it. I think of all the times I've posted the wrong movie, it's been me missing a message once. Every other time has been someone forgetting to inform me, or informing me late, or in this new case, informing me in a manner not preferred then not following up in any way that would enable me to find out what movie was actually being picked. What exactly can I do differently? Maybe I should have been more strict in the first place. Well, that's why I decided to be strict in this case. Rather than delaying the round even further until I could find out what "Der Zenker" meant, I started the round with FLABREZU's most recent genre pick, World on a Wire. So really, there is no disorganization, and no confusion. The match has been started. It's World on a Wire vs. Minus. A little sci-fi on sci-fi action. |
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| Lencho of the Apes | Sep 11 2017, 11:57 PM Post #7 |
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Let's go do some crimes
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I see how you read that sentence, but it wasn't my intention to assign blame for the situation to anybody. The person in my sentence who didn't know what movie had been selected was me, not you or anyone else, and "the level where I no longer know what's going on" was the level up with which I would not put. But the question has been answered, the problem has been resolved, and we can move forward with the game. |
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| kanafani | Sep 12 2017, 12:05 AM Post #8 |
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World on wire is 213 mins, and Minus is 23 mins! |
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| rischka | Sep 12 2017, 12:08 AM Post #9 |
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nazi trumps fuck off!!
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that does seem sort of wacky
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| kanafani | Sep 12 2017, 12:14 AM Post #10 |
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Luckily I've already seen the longer one. |
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| flip out | Sep 12 2017, 12:49 AM Post #11 |
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cryptic
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i didn't have too many choices for iranian genre films, especially since i wanted to focus on recent cinema, so i went with a film by kazem mollaie, a 36 year old director whose first feature film, kupal will, by serendipitous coincidence, have its usa premiere this week (sept 17 at the arizona underground film festival). the film i'm showing in this round is minus, a 23 minute short from 2009. minus won a few 'best experimental film' awards at iranian film festivals, though it has enough sci-fi elements that i think it fits well enough here. Edited by flip out, Sep 12 2017, 12:52 AM.
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| Karl | Sep 12 2017, 03:09 AM Post #12 |
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troubadour
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But isn't The Deer (one of your favorites, right?) an "action film"? That's what I thought you'd pick for this round, and would've given me an excuse to see it. |
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| Patrick | Sep 12 2017, 07:35 PM Post #13 |
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The written word is a lie
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Definitely not an action film in my opinion...although, Kimiai made some fantastic noirish thrillers |
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| Mario Gaborovic | Sep 12 2017, 07:46 PM Post #14 |
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g legs' wife's lover
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Welt am Draht has an interesting concept but unfortunately locations are next to "most dispiriting workplace you could imagine" so it makes all the intended futuristic prediction tale a bit difficult to follow. |
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| josiahmorgan11 | Sep 12 2017, 07:53 PM Post #15 |
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g legs' sweetheart
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xGermany for sure. Minus was an interesting piece but I find many narrative short films lack cohesion in terms of visual development -- this is something my short film round pick later on explicitly focuses on, actually. There are many interesting moments in MINUS, though nothing that explicitly pushed it above WORLD ON A WIRE for me, which.... does anything even need to be said? The mirrors as a thesis for the entire film is perhaps my favorite mode of analysis in that particular case. |
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| Mario Gaborovic | Sep 12 2017, 08:00 PM Post #16 |
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g legs' wife's lover
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xIran |
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| mesnalty | Sep 12 2017, 08:11 PM Post #17 |
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g legs' flame
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World on a Wire is a longtime favorite so it'd be hard to beat, and Minus doesn't manage - despite nice sound design, it doesn't really go anywhere. xGermany |
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| flip out | Sep 12 2017, 08:48 PM Post #18 |
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cryptic
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the deer is great, but i'd need to have stretched the definition of 'action film' pretty far in order to include it. but since i chose a short film, you have some free time left over to watch something else! i'd wager that you'll enjoy the deer quite a bit more than the film i chose. |
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| Brotherdeacon | Sep 13 2017, 11:06 PM Post #19 |
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It conjures willy-nilly
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bure, thanks for doing a great job. Thanks everyone. Shit happens. |
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| brian d | Sep 14 2017, 02:00 AM Post #20 |
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xgermany |
| I will talk breathlessly about Spanish and Portuguese cinema, João César Monteiro, Ritwik Ghatak, and Jacques Rivette, and hardly ever about anything else. | |
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| kanafani | Sep 14 2017, 12:14 PM Post #21 |
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xGermany |
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| Brotherdeacon | Sep 15 2017, 10:12 PM Post #22 |
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It conjures willy-nilly
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Much respect for Kazem Mollaie's Minus. Had the primary ingredients often seen stretched out into feature country, nice pace and overall simplicity. Unfortunately it's running against a German juggernaut in World on a Wire--and yes Achilles can catch the Tortoise. xGermany |
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| rischka | Sep 19 2017, 08:24 PM Post #23 |
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nazi trumps fuck off!!
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i'm watching world on a wire: attempted to make screenshots but gave up after about half an hour. it's too dynamic and overwhelming with all the glass, mirrors, reflections. and how does this dude remind me so much of jack nicholson in chinatown ![]() ![]() i think we know what happens to nosy fellows ![]() thanks for inspiring me to finally watch this!!
Edited by rischka, Sep 19 2017, 08:28 PM.
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| john ryan | Sep 21 2017, 03:50 AM Post #24 |
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| meg | Sep 21 2017, 02:29 PM Post #25 |
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enjoyed Minus but yeah...gotta go with xGermany as well |
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| Lencho of the Apes | Sep 21 2017, 02:30 PM Post #26 |
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xGermany |
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| rischka | Sep 21 2017, 02:56 PM Post #27 |
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nazi trumps fuck off!!
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i don't want to pile on so will abstain not too many films could've beaten welt am draht i think Edited by rischka, Sep 21 2017, 03:00 PM.
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| flip out | Sep 21 2017, 09:47 PM Post #28 |
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cryptic
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i didn't expect my film to be competitive against world on a wire, so feel free to vote how you like! as long as a few people found it worthwhile, and some people thought something like 'i didn't realize films like this were made in iran', then i'll be happy i showed it, and it got one vote, so that's a bonus. ![]() |
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| meg | Sep 21 2017, 10:22 PM Post #29 |
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flip that is exactly what I thought and appreciated the chance to see against a lesser beast I'd have very likely voted for it |
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| DT. | Sep 23 2017, 09:22 AM Post #30 |
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Let them eat Prozac
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xGermany World on a Wire is one of Fassbinder’s most dazzling films, which for him is really saying something. Minus definitely isn't something I expected from Iran. A really slick production, though I'm not sure it amounted to much in the end. |
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