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A Time in Film
Topic Started: Feb 9 2018, 01:13 AM (802 Views)
SleepTight

Hey guys. Been stalking this forum for a while and finally decided to join.

I began editing these videos that I think people here might enjoy, and perhaps can help me with movie suggestions for future films?

I apologize if this is not the place to post this but I wasn't exactly sure where, but with the amount of cinephiles here I figured to try anyway!

Check them out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUwwqZMVZ5g&list=PL6ySBquNJNQIkTxfDEOb0NflZQjNEQcB8

Hope to keep posting around here! Planning on spending the rest couple of months/years working on these videos btw, on to the 1920s!

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Welcome to SCFZ, Sleeptight.
I had a look at some of the compilations and let me tell you that I still have lots of filmmakers to discover. Your work will encourage people to eventually get to the whole films. The question I have is: what are your criteria for choosing each fragment and its specific length?
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Have only watched the first one so far, but great work! Looks like a good way to discover films I didn't know I'd missed, and I'll watch the rest. I do think the music that starts at 1m00 is a much better accompaniment than the guitar at the beginning, which to my ear draws too much attention to itself, and I think you have a typo in the video title (I think the '1889' should be '1899'?).

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Watched 'em all and they look great! An excellent selection of clips that should spark anyone's interest in those early years of movie making.

I missed seeing clips from a small handful of personal favorites I wouldn't have been able to resist including, but found even more I've yet to see that look fantastic. My only quibble would be in the music, mostly how it just sort of cuts out at the end of each video in a way that feels a little abrupt or just off a tad, but otherwise I'm nothing but impressed.
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fun, I've been thinking about this period in film lately (rewatching Noël Burch's What Do Those Old Films Mean? — if you haven't seen it, def check it out!) so you caught me at just the right time!

I'm watching the first one right now. I'm not sure the Tarrega waltz on the soundtrack really fits as an evocation of the era — if that's what you were going for. it's salon music, which is a bit removed from the world of early cinema, even though the time frame lines up. (edit: well, actually, it's debatable how removed it is, since we are talking about the idle rich; and anyway this is a minor quibble that basically amounts to me saying, it "feels" wrong) — actually, does Muybridge even need music? maybe just horse clops! haha, just a thought…

now you gotta start posting, SleepTight. those are the rules.
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SleepTight

Thanks for the welcome, guys!

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Welcome to SCFZ, Sleeptight.
I had a look at some of the compilations and let me tell you that I still have lots of filmmakers to discover. Your work will encourage people to eventually get to the whole films. The question I have is: what are your criteria for choosing each fragment and its specific length?


Thanks javierquintero!

Criteria: basically trying to find a balance between clips/films that I personally like but also that are of relevance to that year/in film history. Some of my personal favorites might get a bit more time than others but i'm trying to balance it out.

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Have only watched the first one so far, but great work! Looks like a good way to discover films I didn't know I'd missed, and I'll watch the rest. I do think the music that starts at 1m00 is a much better accompaniment than the guitar at the beginning, which to my ear draws too much attention to itself, and I think you have a typo in the video title (I think the '1889' should be '1899'?).


Thank you for the feedback! As for the typo, do you mean for Monkeyshines? It is from 1889, although some places have it as 1890.

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Watched 'em all and they look great! An excellent selection of clips that should spark anyone's interest in those early years of movie making.

I missed seeing clips from a small handful of personal favorites I wouldn't have been able to resist including, but found even more I've yet to see that look fantastic. My only quibble would be in the music, mostly how it just sort of cuts out at the end of each video in a way that feels a little abrupt or just off a tad, but otherwise I'm nothing but impressed.


Thanks for the feedback! What are some favorites that I missed? I'm still discovering a ton as I research the years i'm working on. Particularly watching a ton of new films pre-1940 for these videos.

I'll see what I can do about the endings, i'm learning how to edit as I make these as well. :$

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fun, I've been thinking about this period in film lately (rewatching Noël Burch's What Do Those Old Films Mean? — if you haven't seen it, def check it out!) so you caught me at just the right time!

I'm watching the first one right now. I'm not sure the Tarrega waltz on the soundtrack really fits as an evocation of the era — if that's what you were going for. it's salon music, which is a bit removed from the world of early cinema, even though the time frame lines up. (edit: well, actually, it's debatable how removed it is, since we are talking about the idle rich; and anyway this is a minor quibble that basically amounts to me saying, it "feels" wrong) — actually, does Muybridge even need music? maybe just horse clops! haha, just a thought…

now you gotta start posting, SleepTight. those are the rules.


Haven't seen that but will look it up!

Yeah, the music was a hassle as i'm also trying to avoid copyright laws etc. I think once we get to the 30s it'll be easier to chose as I can use movie soundtracks etc.

will do! ;)
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SleepTight
Feb 10 2018, 10:40 PM
As for the typo, do you mean for Monkeyshines? It is from 1889, although some places have it as 1890.


I meant literally the title of the video - the title you've used is:

"A Time in Film: 1878-1889"

and I think the second year should probably be 1899 because you include a lot of clips from the 1890s.

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For 1920 these are the ones i'm thinking of adding, anything i'm missing?

ANNA BOLEYN
DR. JEKYLL AND MR. HYDE
EROTIKON
FANTE-ANNE
FROM MORNING TO MIDNIGHT
GENUINE
LEAVES FROM SATAN’S BOOK
MAN OF THE SEA
NEIGHBORS
ONE WEEK
SUMURUN
THE CABINET OF DR. CALIGARI
THE GARAGE
THE GOLEM: HOW HE CAME INTO THE WORLD
THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS
THE LOVE FLOWER
THE PARSON'S WIDOW
THE PENALTY
THE SCARECROW
THE SPIDERS, PART 2: THE DIAMOND SHIP
THE SWALLOW AND THE TITMOUSE
THE SYMBOL OF THE UNCONQUERED
THE WANDERING SHADOW
WAY DOWN EAST
WHY CHANGE YOUR WIFE?
WITHIN OUR GATES

sorry for the caps :scratch:


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SleepTight
Feb 10 2018, 10:40 PM
As for the typo, do you mean for Monkeyshines? It is from 1889, although some places have it as 1890.


I meant literally the title of the video - the title you've used is:

"A Time in Film: 1878-1889"

and I think the second year should probably be 1899 because you include a lot of clips from the 1890s.

Duh! Didn't think to check. Fixed*

Good eye! ;)
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I have a fondness for some of the other Walter Booth and Robert Paul shorts from the early 1900s, like What Came Out of the Cheese (1901), The Magic Sword (1901), or The (?) Motorist (1906) among quite a few others since they combine the Melies/de Chomon fantasy elements with more mundane real world situations in a way that feels very British.

The BFI 1903 Alice in Wonderland by Hepworth and Stow has some nice moments to it. (The BFI archives have quite a few nicely restored early movies.)

I'd personally have to have something from Max Linder since he's a favorite early comedian that preceded Chaplin and Keaton in fame and influence.

I was really pleased to see the clips from Saturnino Farandolo, which is amazing, and personally would have to add at least something from one of Marcel Perez/Fabre's Robinet shorts, Robinet aviatore/Tweedledum, Aviator (1911) being an all time fave, but the others having some fine moments as well.

I don't recall seeing anything from Feuillade. Les vampires is pure genius.

The Miller's Daughter (1905) was excellent.

Santa Claus (1898) has a moment I love, where the children are in bed and the maid turns down the gas jet bringing a literal curtain of night down to signify darkness as an iris of Santa on the roof appears. Don't know if that would translate well to a clip, but I thought it was brilliant.

Fantasmagorie aka A Fantasy (!908) Emile Cohl The first cartoon
Dreams of Toyland - Coper (1908) Live action and stop motion animation

1898 Aleksandr Mişon - "Bibiheybatda neft fontani yangini" is just a shot of an oil fire, but it's a heck of a shot.

The Hen that Laid the Golden Eggs (1905), Patchwork Girl of Oz (1914), something from Harold Lloyd, The Student of Prague (1913) are some others that jump to mind, but after 1914 it gets tough to narrow things down. As I said though, that's mostly nitpicking around some personal faves you may have already considered and found they didn't fit, while the stuff you have is superb already with most things I like already covered and lots of things I now really want to see. So this isn't criticizing what you have at all.
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^ there are a few of those that I did consider but a few I didn't know about. I'll check 'em out, I regret not including The Student of Prague :/


1920 is DUN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfeU-JdHJtk


my current lineup for 1921:
BACKSTAIRS
DESTINY
EL DORADO
GROWTH OF THE SOIL
HAMLET
JOHAN
LA TERRE
L'ATLANTIDE
ORPHANS OF THE STORM
SOULS ON THE ROAD
THE AFFAIRS OF ANATOL
THE BLOT
THE BOAT
THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE
THE GOAT
THE HAUNTED CASTLE
THE HAUNTED HOUSE
THE INDIAN TOMB: PART I, THE MISSION OF THE YOGI
THE INDIAN TOMB: PART II, THE TIGER OF BENGAL
THE IDLE CLASS
THE KID
THE PHANTOM CARRIAGE
THE SHEIK
THE WILDCAT
TOL'ABLE DAVID

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1921: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd4zZyJuWgE

current lineup for 1922:
BLOOD AND SAND
COPS
COSTER BILL OF PARIS
DR. MABUSE: THE GAMBLER
FOOLISH WIVES
HÄXAN: WITCHCRAFT THROUGH THE AGES
LORNA DOONE
LOVE ONE ANOTHER
LOVE'S CRUCIBLE
LUCREZIA BORGIA
MANSLAUGHTER
NANOOK OF THE NORTH
NOSFERATU
ONCE UPON A TIME
PAY DAY
PHANTOM
SODOM AND GOMORRAH
THE BLACKSMITH
THE BURNING SOIL
THE LOVES OF PHARAOH
THE SURAM FORTRESS
THE TOLL OF THE SEA
THE WOMAN FROM NOWHERE
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What kind of computer and software do you use to make these?
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You might find something enjoyable in The Three Must-Get-There's, and definitely should look into something from Salome for '22, it's a knockout.

You also might find It's a Gift interesting from 1923 when you get there.

Your '20 and '21 clips are both great. Keep up the good work and feel free to ignore the suggestions if they don't fit your concept. Just throwing them out there in case your looking for some other options.
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What kind of computer and software do you use to make these?


I have a PC and Mac laptop but lately using my pc, and use Adobe Premiere.

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You might find something enjoyable in The Three Must-Get-There's, and definitely should look into something from Salome for '22, it's a knockout.

You also might find It's a Gift interesting from 1923 when you get there.

Your '20 and '21 clips are both great. Keep up the good work and feel free to ignore the suggestions if they don't fit your concept. Just throwing them out there in case your looking for some other options.


Thanks for the suggestions! I had Salome marked down as '23 but added it to '22. Thanks!
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1922: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJzMcZdhKtA
1923: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJljEAce6cs

Not my favorite years, but here's where the 20s get real interesting. <heart>
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Hey guys, been a while.

Latest two, i'm fairly happy with how 1925 turned out!

1924: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=993l5ns7eBk
1925: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbJ9rQzBHZM
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