| MGSV Ending + Other SPOILER Discussions; For those who finished | |
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| Topic Started: Sep 9 2015, 12:25 AM (18,726 Views) | |
| Maurycy | Sep 13 2015, 12:05 AM Post #221 |
Johnny Sasaki
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Some more funky stuff from the reddit thread: - 6th man theory about how Venom Snake is not Medic but someone else and it's Ishmael who is the Medic - http://puu.sh/k79j8/2262a8fb47.png - Chapter 3: Peace found in source files - https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1443449&s=be411f7a1a232d67db9eddc722b7702d&p=48663226&viewfull=1#post48663226 - And some more tweets fomr Gray Xof - https://twitter.com/gray_xof/with_replies I admit I am intrigued by the fiddles that fiddle everywhere around there and here. Edited by Maurycy, Sep 13 2015, 12:13 AM.
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| Hoss | Sep 13 2015, 12:20 AM Post #222 |
One and Only
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But Ishmael's identity is told, in the game in a side ops... Oh wait, Reddit. |
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| iExPreZz | Sep 13 2015, 12:20 AM Post #223 |
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Johnny Sasaki
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^Yeah I read the 6th man and boy, It's annoying how much it might actually be true, After all this is Kojima, he knew exactly how many people he wanted inside that chopper, and he knows exactly what he's doing, it's not like they added him there by mistake. God dammit who's the real Big Boss.. Spoiler: click to toggle Had to do it. |
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| Maurycy | Sep 13 2015, 12:28 AM Post #224 |
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Johnny Sasaki
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That's exactly my problem with all these theories. If this was any other game done by anyone else I wouldn't even bat an eye. But it's Kojima, a known perfectionist and a person who pulled off MGS2 without it leaking. If anyone were to do so much midfuckery with an AAA game it can only be him. But heck, even if there is nothing to it it's still fun to follow the whole thing :). I love to observe the events as they unfold. Reminds me of the time in Kingdom of Loathing (an old but still maintained browser RPG) where the comet hit the land and it turned out to be a major plot point in the game for quite some time and I was lucky enough to be playing the game at that time :). Suffice to say I am rewatching the trailers right now and in the Garbage trailer it is said "From "FOX" Two Phantoms were Born", "FOX vs. XOF" and "A Phantom Battle Waged by the Vanished". Is "Vanished" ever used anywhere else in the game or is it exclusive for this trailer? Because the way I understand it is - two phantoms refers to Medic Snake and Skull Face which is enforced by "FOX vs. XOF". A Phantom Battle refers to the battle waged by the two phantoms but the vanished doesn't make much sense to me. Unless, going by the dictionary definition "to disappear by ceasing to exist; come to an end" it refers to Big Boss's "death" before the coma and Skull Face's death before becoming one with parasites. Wait... THE CONSPIRACY IS TAKING ME IN, HELP D: And now I feel sad because I saw Quiet in the trailer :(. I'll just go and play the game a bit more. Edited by Maurycy, Sep 13 2015, 12:37 AM.
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| Big Paws | Sep 13 2015, 01:16 AM Post #225 |
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Okay, i watched the Quiets mission. Now its confirmed she had more lines than Kiefer : 3 |
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| Gatsu | Sep 13 2015, 02:11 AM Post #226 |
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Oh maan, crazy theories still going on even after players finished the game lol. This is awesome xD! |
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| AerGre | Sep 13 2015, 03:03 AM Post #227 |
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| iExPreZz | Sep 13 2015, 06:41 AM Post #228 |
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Johnny Sasaki
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Apparently there are scenes in the game we have yet to discover, as confirmed by community manager Robert Peeler. I doubt it has anything to do with the whole Medic,Big boss thing and the confusion but it definitely seem to be about the "cut content" in E3 2014 trailer, seems to do with nuclear weapons and what not https://twitter.com/popcicle/status/642887363677454337 https://twitter.com/popcicle/status/642888010950832128 https://twitter.com/popcicle/status/642885705182523392 And here's the video apparently of the scene of you wanna check it out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2E17aKPp_o&feature=youtu.be I decided not to, I'll try to find it on my own, though after deleting my save seems like itls gonna take way longer than it should judging by "if someone got this scene naturally, this early, I'm impressed" |
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| No Place For Hayter | Sep 13 2015, 11:59 AM Post #229 |
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Weird heavy handed pseudo story with a quote from a retard all tied into the ONLINE portion of the game? really? is this what MGS has become? I'm so disappointed right now, this is the last kind of bullshit I needed. I don't play online so i won't see this kind of stuff? seriously? KP can piss off for this one, I HATE online and it just pisses me off to have such a broken intrusive online portion in MGS to actually be important in anyway, who cares if you bought the game and enjoy single player and want to experience and play the story without immersion breaking online components, because fuck you if you are that kind of person, you are supposed to play and be involved in the online portion, and if you don't you won't get all of the game. Someone could have told be before I bought TPP, that way I wouldn't have to waste my time and money on it, as I will be watching it on Youtube anyway as I won't see it in my game. Yeah this made me upset, lol, I'm ranting here without full knowledge of the subject, lol. I'll just make sure to complain again or something when we know the full story, in more ways than one. |
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| Maurycy | Sep 13 2015, 12:40 PM Post #230 |
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I am not sad by the fact that she died or not. I am sad because I lost her and I'll never see her again :(. Also, ingsoc is pretty much officially confirmed to be a ruse: - Robert says so https://twitter.com/popcicle/status/642907668064038913 - Gray XOF has been taken over by Patriots AI https://twitter.com/gray_xof/with_replies - Interestingly, http://ingsoc.org now says "Silence" in the title - http://www.blackhoundgame.com/ has been taken down - People on reddit are abandoning the Ruse Cruise - https://www.reddit.com/r/metalgearsolid/comments/3kbjuq/spoilerish_somethings_coming_on_911/?sort=new&limit=500 It was fun while it lasted and I wish it took longer for the Cruisetanic to hit the Iceberg of truth :). Edited by Maurycy, Sep 13 2015, 12:45 PM.
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| Big Paws | Sep 13 2015, 01:15 PM Post #231 |
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Oh well, its deleted now. But tbh I dont care, no hidden scenes will repair the story. |
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| iExPreZz | Sep 13 2015, 01:33 PM Post #232 |
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Johnny Sasaki
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I feel like everything related to MGSV that's not about fixing chapter 2 pisses you off at this point 
Edited by iExPreZz, Sep 13 2015, 01:33 PM.
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| Full_Options | Sep 13 2015, 03:10 PM Post #233 |
Totally incompetent
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Ok, done... Although the 40% way though...  Da Story : The romantic story and role of Quiet with Big Boss is top fun. There are a lot of other rich in emotion sequence, sooo deep ones that I definitely not remember a game able to trigger almost tears from me. I think what was served was 8/10 MGS quality in terms of ideas. However, since I feel missing at least 1/3 of the product, I can hardly issue any higher than 6/10 for the story. The game structure has been clearly destroyed by those cuts. I was expecting perhaps something longer. I feared something not as long as MGS4 (I would have loved to) since the game was unfortunately criticized for that aspect. Perhaps if those 35 (or so) missions were split in 5 acts and a properly packaged epilogue, and if we never had eared about "the area 51", this combined with more fine-tuning on boss level cinematic and rhythm, I would have feel like I have a complete MGS V. It is a pitty because there are solid and massive contents but they are not presented and rhythmical the way they deserve. It is not fair for KP but there was definitely a problem with the game's dev road-map. In the old years KCE would have let KP finish properly, delaying the game for one extra year or so, but we live in a world where all is deadly accelerating. It would have been very painful but I would have accepted it because I know that KP usually never fuck up on MGS. Da Code / gameplay : Well, minus very anecdotal factors such as Snake sometimes not able to climb 30cm high obstacles (very rare though), 10 out of 10 is the only suitable mark in my opinion. I may miss also a little more cracks to climb but I am probably not realizing how glitch-prone it could be for devs. The mother base look a bit unused but I guess/hope this part is reserved for MGO... I would have appreciated more MB-retake-like missions (but not sure if I yet discovered all that has to be done on MB). Re-playing missions in extreme is totally cheesy since the ranking system is supposed to be there specially for that purpose. But since the easy versions of the missions propose different ennemy AI, it is maybe ok to present them like that within the short time-frame they had. The problem is that it is fillers that make the story look cheap whereas it is not really. This gameplay new concept is huge, so far longer to fine-tune. It can be improved and more stabilized but so far, I never played something that orgasmic !!! Da conclusion : It is probable that Kojima was asking for an extra year. He managed to get a even a longer delay for MGS IV, since CellBE SPU's were too new and most early PS3 games were poorly using just the PPU (all studios were in deep shit). Sony's libs to handle SPU jobs or patch RSX shaders accross SPU's were not mature enough, giving hereby a nice excuse to KP for grabbing 2 extra years. Unfortunately, all those libs were mature enough for FoxEngine to use them for MGS V, hereby giving no excuse of such to KP this time. The title was also not PlayStation® exclusive this time, which introduced tons of new caveats to take care of. All those platform hardware are drastically different. I play games more for the gameplay than the story so I feel very very satisfied to have my hands on this huge sandbox. Although, there are very few I play also for the story and MGS's is one of those franchises so... I don't know what happened but the story experience was clearly butchered for me. I think there is something weird with how reviewers noted MGSV TPP. Either they are KCE's complices to boost sales (which looks a realistic reason), either they wanted to send a message to KCE, hereby defending how they could KP. Maybe the truth is somewhere between those both reasons. In any cases, trying to reach 100% and searching easters is going to be top-fun. I am really happy to finally have a new MGS with a so perfect gameplay. Edited by Full_Options, Sep 13 2015, 03:11 PM.
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| leguywhodrownedquiet | Sep 13 2015, 04:58 PM Post #234 |
Johnny Sasaki
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Well mgsv tpp still had that mgs feeling for me in a ki dof way I'm talking about supernatural shit not the story btw and to be fair when I first played a heroes way it was fun to order a sniper rifle despite I bombed in that mission a dwell the ending should have been a little shorter though lol so ce I was mindfucked by it Ingsoc was a fucking petition Imagine all that delight if mgsv tpp was released in 2016 but no story or gameplay cut content as long it doesn't ruin the immersion of hhe game and ofc fully polished Edited by leguywhodrownedquiet, Sep 13 2015, 05:00 PM.
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| SolidLiquid | Sep 13 2015, 05:51 PM Post #235 |
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I think that's what you're not understanding. He is pissed at those people, along with Big Boss. Even though he didn't ask to be a part of it, he was. Liquid is pissed at the WORLD. Not just BB. It's why he wants to bring destruction to the world. He has no good intentions. I just don't think it's realistic to say you wouldn't be mad because we don't have that perspective. You literally ONLY exist so someone else can exist. You don't matter. You are nothing but a shadow of the person they wanted to create. That's heavy stuff. And as Scotia responded with a GIF, we heavily disagree with you lol |
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| leguywhodrownedquiet | Sep 13 2015, 06:00 PM Post #236 |
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Johnny Sasaki
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How many mods are there here?just wanted to know lol Already know I'm sorry Https://m.youtube.com/watch?vQlxO4h5XVho Edited by leguywhodrownedquiet, Sep 13 2015, 06:17 PM.
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| AerGre | Sep 13 2015, 06:51 PM Post #237 |
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Can someone tell me how mission replays work? Like if I redo a heros way and extract the spetsnaz commander will I get a second one with different skills and such? |
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| iExPreZz | Sep 13 2015, 06:53 PM Post #238 |
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Johnny Sasaki
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yeah nevermind i watched the whole Nuke Disarmament thing and glad that I did, apparently in order for these cutscenes to trigger we need. to. clear. ever. nuke. from. every. FOB. in. the. FUCKING. WORLD. Right Kojima, I wonder if he actually expected people to do this shit. here's the video if you wanna check it out yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4uSkAACoHc Sorry for the misinformation earlier, it had nothing to do with 2014 E3 trailer, I just assumed back then. |
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| AerGre | Sep 13 2015, 06:56 PM Post #239 |
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That cant be true like, how is that possible? People can build their nukes whenever they get the materials so how can we go about disarming them all if there can always be someone making new ones. Also how can someone find a nuke in FOB? Edited by AerGre, Sep 13 2015, 06:58 PM.
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| iExPreZz | Sep 13 2015, 07:00 PM Post #240 |
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Johnny Sasaki
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I have no Idea, I only told you what the description of the video says. Oh by the way, this @gray_xof guy, hes starting to piss me off at this point, he's trying way too hard, but i'll give him props for that, hes just a fan wanting to pressure Konami or something to make a statement http://imgur.com/a/5J1c7 And there's a bunch of nonsense on his twitter, sigh. Edited by iExPreZz, Sep 13 2015, 07:01 PM.
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