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Raskalov
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Sep 16 2015, 01:20 AM
MGS V was full of bullshit scenes. I still laugh at allowing Liquid to stay in helicopter when they went to meet Skull Face and letting again blond kid steal your Metal Gear.
What were they supposed to do? Throw Eli out of the helicopter? They didn't discover him until they left Mother Base.
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Yes, that's what I would do. And get rid of all the kids from the base, having a good heart just costed a lot of men their lives
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Sep 16 2015, 01:45 AM
Yes, that's what I would do. And get rid of all the kids from the base, having a good heart just costed a lot of men their lives
Man, I dunno if you post in jest most times but lord are most of your posts ridiculous lol.
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Well, if Kojima wanted ME to be the Big Boss he should have given me more freedom. I dont want to save world and worthless children. One incident and they would go on a raft with Huey. Or just straight for the sharks or Ocelot so he could train his torture techniques. You cant call me a demon when im forced to act like fucking angel. Stupid one.
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Sep 15 2015, 01:01 PM
The Mr. Wolfe review is indeed very accurate.
I think it resumes quite well what happened from day one until know.

If I may add a couple of things regarding the story, so inherited gameplay chapter's structure, I would say that I missed also some kind of more progressive 5 members cobra unit (or individual Bosses with their own original design / equipment like Fortune, Vamp and others).
Successive bosses also with their very own weak points... Literally articulating chapters more homogeneously as well as environments where you fight them.
The Skulls were cool but, ya know... They were just 4 instances of the same character, and all attacking at the same time... Not gradual at all.

The Mr. Wolfe idea of more evolving bionic arm would have make top-pure sense too.

But the major thing that disappointed me in the story is the Metal Gear "spirit" itself. Nothing wrong with Sahel in terms of design, but we are unfortunately quite far from the MG spirit with had discovering, for instance, Ray in the tanker or fighting 20 of them on the Arsenal's roof-top (fission mailed on this point).
I don't know but I was expecting far more crazy stuff :
Something like perhaps fighting 4 or 5 Sahelantropusses, transforming / assembling into a gigantic one (one Sahel per arm and legs), and a principal one different and harder to beat for the torso + head.
This final battle could have taken place on some kind of Avengers-helicarrier-like platform named Arsenal-Gear 0.3b (in which we would have also to do a lot of stuff like in Arsenal), or even in space and we could have fight him on-board of Metal Gear "Goliath", a MG able to chase this "Sahelantropus x 5" in space, and designed by Emmerich on our MB, for this special purpose.
I mean where is my duel with Snake riding a MG, ala MGS IV's "Rex VS Ray" battle ???
Well I was not expecting that much but something more in this spirit. :/
I wasn't even expecting the new Metal Gear to stand upright like a human, let alone have arms and a whip-sword. Your mind is going places lol
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Sep 16 2015, 02:52 AM
Well, if Kojima wanted ME to be the Big Boss he should have given me more freedom. I dont want to save world and worthless children. One incident and they would go on a raft with Huey. Or just straight for the sharks or Ocelot so he could train his torture techniques. You cant call me a demon when im forced to act like fucking angel. Stupid one.
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Sep 16 2015, 03:12 AM
Big Paws
Sep 16 2015, 02:52 AM
Well, if Kojima wanted ME to be the Big Boss he should have given me more freedom. I dont want to save world and worthless children. One incident and they would go on a raft with Huey. Or just straight for the sharks or Ocelot so he could train his torture techniques. You cant call me a demon when im forced to act like fucking angel. Stupid one.
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My sentiments exactly.
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Big Paws
Sep 16 2015, 01:45 AM
Yes, that's what I would do. And get rid of all the kids from the base, having a good heart just costed a lot of men their lives
What in the hell? lol You do post just some non-sensical things on here. I mean, we get it at this point. You don't like Liquid Snake.
Big Paws
Sep 16 2015, 02:52 AM
Well, if Kojima wanted ME to be the Big Boss he should have given me more freedom. I dont want to save world and worthless children. One incident and they would go on a raft with Huey. Or just straight for the sharks or Ocelot so he could train his torture techniques. You cant call me a demon when im forced to act like fucking angel. Stupid one.
It never ends. lol He's not going to give you the freedom to kill Eli...because that's a time paradox. lol
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The guy posting about the 5 sahelanthropuses joining together to make a bigger metal gear and have a space battle seems a bit more nonsensical than Big Paws
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Check this review of the ending out. Recommend it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47o4EcA4ENE
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Sep 16 2015, 06:52 AM
The guy posting about the 5 sahelanthropuses joining together to make a bigger metal gear and have a space battle seems a bit more nonsensical than Big Paws
Both are nonsensical. lol That would be the most ridiculous boss fight, nigga this ain't Power Rangers. But, Paws has clearly stated in earlier pages that he hates Liquid throughout the series. For him to say that he would throw Eli out of the helicopter just because he can't stand him, and asking to have more freedom from Kojima to be even more evil just so he could do that is even more nonsensical. Simply because that's a time paradox.
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Sep 16 2015, 01:20 AM
MGS V was full of bullshit scenes. I still laugh at allowing Liquid to stay in helicopter when they went to meet Skull Face and letting again blond kid steal your Metal Gear.
Exactly.Why they brought him to that mission in the first place?Was he useful?Was there something he could do?Nothing!!!Oh,wait,There was something.Mantis came and manipulated him and made him steal Sahel...pus (man,spelling this thing is harder than Shalashaska!!!),lol.
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I wouldnt need to create time paradoxes if story had any sense and some scenes werent forced. When in doubt, say "Nanomachines, son" or "Parasites".
Edited by Big Paws, Sep 16 2015, 01:30 PM.
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Sep 15 2015, 09:05 PM
Damn, that's a long post <(O__O)>... I gotta go sleep so shall read it fully tomorrow, adios amigos ;). The jeep ride was one thing that bothered me in the game and weird place to use "Sins of the Father" imo :D.

P.S. welcome to the other side of MGI also gerber ;).
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Sep 15 2015, 04:34 PM

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Btw I will create a new account on mgi tomorrow !
Did you get banned again <(o_O)> ?

Btw Jatin it's not me who do it always, so hope you don't blame me lol :(.
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Sep 15 2015, 08:59 PM
It always depend on how we approach the level (quiet tanks)... It was tedious for me too but was cool to understand a way to blast'em all !!!
I enjoyed calling airstrike on those enemy groups :P.

@ All, if you wanna introduce yourselves to the Forum oldtimers etc, should do it here ;) http://w11.zetaboards.com/The_Cardboard_Box/topic/8553892/4/?x=0#post8328552
Remember the guy who insulted kojima?Thats me but I thought you you were annoyed how i behaved like a teen by insulting our beloved creator and you banned me and I think I should have insulted konamis new piece of shit CEO (sorry scotia if I used swear words )
And my name is IM2PAC if you knkw who is tupac shakur
My thoughts Controls: Actually my response like other fans not as unique as older mgs titles but they're the reason I love mgsv despite some flawed writing and a lot of plotholes.
Soundtrack: The ost is home to many awesome tracks by Ludvig Forsell but many tracks like a phantom pain(in the prologue) gave me goosebumbs but I thought it was cliched but that's just my opinion.
Story.Too many plotholes too many plotholes ! The real big boss really knows how to persuade someone to die for him lol .(his dialogue during truth) and I'm surprised how a random guy who learns medicine and randomly johns an army as low placed medic is the 2nd best soldier in mgsf (it was said in the tapes apparently)
Characters:I expected more from skull face the nihilistic skull face and the skulls battle felt rushed to me.Kudos to robin atkin downes as gerber or someone else perfectly worded it. He's the best character in tpp and how he acted to make venom feel like big boss is beyond me . Ocelot was always good despite loving torture.
Themes:NOTHING groundbreaking . Experimentation on soldiers is out of a sci fi movie. The torture scenes were based on sci if as well gta v was more hardcore especially the quirky Trevor.
Yes I know my impressions were rushed so I'm sorry with the punctuations and all.

High impact themes f u for hyping me acb
I can t believe bb turned his back on his friends for himself his friends are the medic and kaz
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Sep 15 2015, 10:24 PM
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I don't know but I was expecting far more crazy stuff :
Something like perhaps fighting 4 or 5 Sahelantropusses, transforming / assembling into a gigantic one (one Sahel per arm and legs), and a principal one different and harder to beat for the torso + head.
This final battle could have taken place on some kind of Avengers-helicarrier-like platform named Arsenal-Gear 0.3b (in which we would have also to do a lot of stuff like in Arsenal), or even in space and we could have fight him on-board of Metal Gear "Goliath", a MG able to chase this "Sahelantropus x 5" in space, and designed by Emmerich on our MB, for this special purpose.
I mean where is my duel with Snake riding a MG, ala MGS IV's "Rex VS Ray" battle ???
Well I was not expecting that much but something more in this spirit. :/
I'm sorry, but you shouldn't have been expecting any of that. Why would you? What indication gave you that we'd be fighting a Power Rangers-like Metal Gear this time around in space?


Well, is there a real question ? My turn to be sorry : I dunno, perhaps my grandma gave me the indication... xD
Power-Rangers appear to be your favorite classics since it was the first example that popped in your mind rather than Robotech or even Transformers ?
Try to finish MGS2 and MGS4 to have a solid picture of what I meant !? I just said I was expecting something as crazy as that and what's wrong with Avengers-helicarrier-like platform named Arsenal-Gear 0.3b or a "Rex VS Ray" battle ?
What's wrong with fighting 5 MG's ? MGS2 had 20 Ray's ? I should not have expected ANY of that too ? Maybe I should have expected a MG shaped like a card board box and just barking with DD's voice as secret weapon ? xD

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Sep 15 2015, 09:05 PM
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Sep 15 2015, 08:59 PM
It always depend on how we approach the level (quiet tanks)... It was tedious for me too but was cool to understand a way to blast'em all !!!
I enjoyed calling airstrike on those enemy groups :P.


I passed without airstrikes ouch (took me at least 3hrs)... Dunno, was traumatized by PW, like having heroism decreased but used tons of supply drops calls besides quiet's flares, lol, so I guess the heroism was f.ck'd up too. :D
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Well, is there a real question ? My turn to be sorry : I dunno, perhaps my grandma gave me the indication... xD
Power-Rangers appear to be your favorite classics since it was the first example that popped in your mind rather than Robotech or even Transformers ?
Try to finish MGS2 and MGS4 to have a solid picture of what I meant !? I just said I was expecting something as crazy as that and what's wrong with Avengers-helicarrier-like platform named Arsenal-Gear 0.3b or a "Rex VS Ray" battle ?
What's wrong with fighting 5 MG's ? MGS2 had 20 Ray's ? I should not have expected ANY of that too ? Maybe I should have expected a MG shaped like a card board box and just barking with DD's voice as secret weapon ? xD

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I passed without airstrikes ouch (took me at least 3hrs)... Dunno, was traumatized by PW, like having heroism decreased but used tons of supply drops calls besides quiet's flares, lol, so I guess the heroism was f.ck'd up too. :D
There wa supposed to be a battle gear vs sahelanthropus according to kojima but it ruined the games balance according to it (piloting a hovering metal gear)
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Sep 16 2015, 01:29 PM
I wouldnt need to create time paradoxes if story had any sense and some scenes werent forced. When in doubt, say "Nanomachines, son" or "Parasites".
Is this all you do?
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Sep 16 2015, 04:56 PM
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There wa supposed to be a battle gear vs sahelanthropus according to kojima but it ruined the games balance according to it (piloting a hovering metal gear)
Correct !!! Probably the Huey's unachieved tank-like battle gear on R&D platform ! I think it would have rather ruined Konami's bank balance instead !? :D
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Sep 15 2015, 11:03 PM
Hi Brothers!!... finally a place where i can share my thoughts about MGSV story (there are other places but i like the community here) without spoil anyone. instead of posting a big ass post, i'll just comment and reply frecuently sharing my impresions of the game.

For now i'll just say that i wish that i could have played MGSV like i did with the others of the series, that is without knowing much about the plot or the content of the game, those times were amazing because it was easier to go black out and know nothing, so the impact of the plot twist was more powerfull.

i loved the game but is not my MGS favorite, also i was expecting a lot more in terms of story, about gameplay this is the best game i have played so far, period.


Saludos!
Now that I remember, I didn't know much at all about the previous MGS games before playing them. Not even MGS4, because at the time of release I had xbox360 and didn't follow news so much for some reason. Only trailers a few times.

But with MGSV it has been way different lol. Trailers every day and news :), so yeah it might have felt different if be totally clueless of TPP's story etc before playing it.
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leguywhodrownedquiet
Sep 16 2015, 05:08 PM
I think konamis new CEO is the most inexperienced piece of shit I've heard
I mean konami always how to insult their developers and treat them like animals but ditching the franchises that made them famous (fuck you yugi oh )
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