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Sep 9 2015, 05:43 PM
Also do you remember the GZ title "From Fox two Phantoms were Born". I was thinking We Know the Fox which is Big Boss as well as the Phantom Venom Snake/Medic but who is the second phantom. As the game is structured in episodic format who knows we may receive story content in the future..
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FOX is FOX. The unit. From [it] two phantoms were born, one of them is Big Boss the other is Venom. Big Boss becomes a phantom in his own right when he decides to dash to a bunker and let Venom do his dirty work.
I suggest some of you introduce yourselves here: http://w11.zetaboards.com/The_Cardboard_Box/topic/8553892/1/?x=50#new
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Hi guys I'm new here and I came from mgi I'm leguywhodrownedquiet aka random sniper and I think if there really was story doc it could hint venom being schizophrenic and if it doesn't my phantom pain becoz of the fucking cut content will never be healed
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I don't believe there's gonna be any DLC, I mean I guess we would know about it already instead of it being secretly being made ;). I can understand wanting it after still feeling Phantom Pain. I try my best to enjoy the game as it is :).

So was that Black Hound some upcoming Kojima related stuff? I haven't followed the info on that so dont know if it's a good fake.
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Sep 9 2015, 06:34 PM
Hi guys I'm new here and I came from mgi I'm leguywhodrownedquiet aka random sniper and I think if there really was story doc it could hint venom being schizophrenic and if it doesn't my phantom pain becoz of the fucking cut content will never be healed
I sincerely hope your name isn't a fucking spoiler...

It's different to be posting spoilers in a spoiler thread but to have a name like that just out for everyone to see.
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First off, i wanna mention the things i liked about the game and follow it by the things i disliked.

I liked:
1- The whole theme of language and the vocal cord parasites/wolbachia, it was original and creative.
2- The voice actors were so good! when i heard the real Big Boss's voice at the end of the game, it sounded SO different than the phantom. As Avi Arad said.. Kiefer has a voice full of mystery. Hoped to hear more from him.. ;'/ the best for me was Robin atkin downes tho.
3- The gameplay is phenomenal!
4- As a student of medicine myself, i liked the plot a lot because it had a lot of things to do with medicine ;'D the phantom Big Boss is a medic himself! i can relate to him in a way ;'D
5- I liked the character of Skull Face, even tho he was a maniac. His speeches are so GOOD and deep.
6- There was a moment when you're forced to kill the infected DD soldiers.. one of the soldiers say "We live and die by your order BOSS!" that was so GOOD.

I disliked:
1- The fact that almost EVERYONE suspected there will be a body-double. I mean.. you guys remember the "Not your kind of people" trailer.. and "What about him?" quote.. That scene alone opened a lot of speculation of a body-double. I really think Kojima should have cut that part out of that trailer.
2- The way Skull Face died.. the scenario was bad.. Skull Face corners Big Boss and gives him a speech about language in his car(as if he was trying to convince him to join forces).. shows big boss sahelanthropus and dies. Dafuq.. Anti-climactic as fuck.
3- Kaz became a little annoying trying to dispose of Quiet and Huey.
4- Chico just died.. i mean.. they could have just done something else with his story.
5- The events of the story were short, not much happened.
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,y name isn't a fucking spoiler and the guy in the game who has my name gets his balls breaker and ears. Bitten off!The black hound thing could be fake !Oh wait it is.
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@Scotia dont worry he made the name since the reveal of 2014 Nuclear trailer, in the trailer there is that dude who try drown Quiet :)
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Sep 9 2015, 06:44 PM
@Scotia dont worry he made the name since the reveal of 2014 Nuclear trailer, in the trailer there is that dude who try drown Quiet :)
Just checkin'. Don't want any idiots runnin' around here with spoiler names like on MGSF. (that fuckin' place, I swear)


Also, guys... seriously.

I suggest some of you introduce yourselves here: http://w11.zetaboards.com/The_Cardboard_Box/topic/8553892/1/?x=50#new
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@scotia thanks dude !
@gatsu I thought in the prologue ISHAMEL pisses in his pants but it was IV and actually Ishmael does piss in his pants in mgs3
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Sep 9 2015, 06:42 PM
I disliked:
1- The fact that almost EVERYONE suspected there will be a body-double. I mean.. you guys remember the "Not your kind of people" trailer.. and "What about him?" quote.. That scene alone opened a lot of speculation of a body-double. I really think Kojima should have cut that part out of that trailer.
2- The way Skull Face died.. the scenario was bad.. Skull Face corners Big Boss and gives him a speech about language in his car(as if he was trying to convince him to join forces).. shows big boss sahelanthropus and dies. Dafuq.. Anti-climactic as fuck.
3- Kaz became a little annoying trying to dispose of Quiet and Huey.
4- Chico just died.. i mean.. they could have just done something else with his story.
5- The events of the story were short, not much happened.
1. That is true. I think the best way this would have been avoided, if Kojima cut that moment or if GZ and TPP would've released together as one. We had what, 2 years time to think of EVERY sort of theory out there. So I think it kind of ruined the surprise for some. I did always think that the 3rd person is either, Chico or the player. Just like in Ground Zeroes Big Boss say to us, "Kept you waiting, huh?". So here Kaz talk to us, are we okey after all the shit MB went through. But since the moment didn't happen at the start of the game, I thought it was cut off :D... Which was surprising it was shown in the end after all.

2. Yeah it felt weird to me also. He was interesting villain imo with all the past info relating to Zero etc. But he didn't have much any special powers for example like Volgin and got just crushed. I enjoyed watching him getting chopped to pieces though, lol that was brutal! Mothafucka had it coming :).

3. I hear some missed the PW Kaz, but I wasn't bothered by him so much. He's just full of hate in TPP and loved him in the post credit conversation, "Now I've really lost it all!".

4. I expected he was dead when didn't see in any trailer, its a bit sad though :(.

5. They were pretty scattered and the game feels longer, so the story can be hard to remember all the time. If think about other MG, it's a straight line from cutscene to cutscene and can call codecs, but here gotta travel long distances and at some point see something + listen the tapes. I think that's why it feel so different.
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I thought venom was pretty interesting but not the medic.A random medic is the 2nd best guy in MSF maybe he has the second best shooting skills and the best medic but......
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Not sure how you can find Venom interesting but not Medic, considering they are the same person lol.
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Coz venom is big boss @gatsu lol
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Sep 9 2015, 06:34 PM
Hi guys I'm new here and I came from mgi I'm leguywhodrownedquiet aka random sniper and I think if there really was story doc it could hint venom being schizophrenic and if it doesn't my phantom pain becoz of the fucking cut content will never be healed
Hey welcome to the other side bro :).
Yeah I think he has something like that, because of the brain injuries and made to copy Big Boss etc. Something mental as he's seeing images of a demon in him.

Also leguy, the song "Man Who Sold The World", I'm not sure I quite understand the lyrics but does it hint at that also?

Anyway, Big Boss sold his world. Btw I love this song so much.


We passed upon the stair, we spoke of was and when
Although I wasn't there, he said I was his friend
Which came as some surprise, I spoke into his eyes
I thought you died alone, a long long time ago

Oh no, not me
I never lost control
You're face to face
With the man who sold the world

I laughed and shook his hand, and made my way back home
I searched for form and land, for years and years I roamed
I gazed a gazely stare at all the millions here
We must have died alone, a long long time ago

Who knows? Not me
We never lost control
You're face to face
With the man who sold the world

Who knows? Not me
We never lost control
You're face to face
With the man who sold the world
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Sep 9 2015, 07:10 PM
Coz venom is big boss @gatsu lol
Venom is Venom, there is only ONE Big Boss, as seen by MG1 and MG2, and how BB leads you to eliminate Venom in MG1. Venom may excel in combat and be up there with Big Boss, but Big Boss he isn't.
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Venom is also the player btw and when he dies the player has no control of the real big boss.Big boss was building his army by rescuing people who wre indebted to him venom did something different
Gatsu
Sep 9 2015, 07:10 PM
leguywhodrownedquiet
Sep 9 2015, 06:34 PM
Hi guys I'm new here and I came from mgi I'm leguywhodrownedquiet aka random sniper and I think if there really was story doc it could hint venom being schizophrenic and if it doesn't my phantom pain becoz of the fucking cut content will never be healed
Hey welcome to the other side bro :).
Yeah I think he has something like that, because of the brain injuries and made to copy Big Boss etc. Something mental as he's seeing images of a demon in him.

Also leguy, the song "Man Who Sold The World", I'm not sure I quite understand the lyrics but does it hint at that also?

Anyway, Big Boss sold his world. Btw I love this song so much.


We passed upon the stair, we spoke of was and when
Although I wasn't there, he said I was his friend
Which came as some surprise, I spoke into his eyes
I thought you died alone, a long long time ago

Oh no, not me
I never lost control
You're face to face
With the man who sold the world

I laughed and shook his hand, and made my way back home
I searched for form and land, for years and years I roamed
I gazed a gazely stare at all the millions here
We must have died alone, a long long time ago

Who knows? Not me
We never lost control
You're face to face
With the man who sold the world

Who knows? Not me
We never lost control
You're face to face
With the man who sold the world
This song is my jam and my favourite version is by lulu lol but the midge ure version has the music when he says the chorus but bowie has a far more superior voice
Gatsu
Sep 9 2015, 07:10 PM
leguywhodrownedquiet
Sep 9 2015, 06:34 PM
Hi guys I'm new here and I came from mgi I'm leguywhodrownedquiet aka random sniper and I think if there really was story doc it could hint venom being schizophrenic and if it doesn't my phantom pain becoz of the fucking cut content will never be healed
Hey welcome to the other side bro :).
Yeah I think he has something like that, because of the brain injuries and made to copy Big Boss etc. Something mental as he's seeing images of a demon in him.

Also leguy, the song "Man Who Sold The World", I'm not sure I quite understand the lyrics but does it hint at that also?

Anyway, Big Boss sold his world. Btw I love this song so much.


We passed upon the stair, we spoke of was and when
Although I wasn't there, he said I was his friend
Which came as some surprise, I spoke into his eyes
I thought you died alone, a long long time ago

Oh no, not me
I never lost control
You're face to face
With the man who sold the world

I laughed and shook his hand, and made my way back home
I searched for form and land, for years and years I roamed
I gazed a gazely stare at all the millions here
We must have died alone, a long long time ago

Who knows? Not me
We never lost control
You're face to face
With the man who sold the world

Who knows? Not me
We never lost control
You're face to face
With the man who sold the world
This song is my jam and my favourite version is by lulu lol but the midge ure version has the music when he says the chorus but bowie has a far more superior voice
Edited by leguywhodrownedquiet, Sep 9 2015, 07:15 PM.
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Sep 9 2015, 07:10 PM

You're face to face
With the man who sold the world
The song is said to be about Bowie meeting an old friend he lost contact with and presumed dead, due to drug addiction. Bowie's friend interjects and mentions he never lost control, but he sold the world [he gave up his job, his life, etc. to drugs].
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He used to be the Medic, but not anymore. Zero ordered him to become made total mental copy of him, knowing everything of his past too.
Well yeah Venom kick ass, but deep inside they are the same person ;).
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Sep 9 2015, 07:12 PM
Venom is also the player btw and when he dies the player has no control of the real big boss.Big boss was building his army by rescuing people who wre indebted to him venom did something different
Yes, I know. I pretty much pointed this out like a year ago, and even more recently before the game was out. :p
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Sep 9 2015, 07:15 PM
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Sep 9 2015, 07:10 PM

You're face to face
With the man who sold the world
The song is said to be about Bowie meeting an old friend he lost contact with and presumed dead, due to drug addiction. Bowie's friend interjects and mentions he never lost control, but he sold the world [he gave up his job, his life, etc. to drugs].
Oh :O...okey XD. Thanks for explaining that to me haha.
Edited by Gatsu, Sep 9 2015, 07:17 PM.
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