| MGSV Ending + Other SPOILER Discussions; For those who finished | |
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| SolidLiquid | Sep 17 2015, 05:46 AM Post #421 |
Legendary Mercenary
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Well said, Boss fights tend to have a lot more build up. As for Quiet, I was in free roam and came across the ruins and then boom, the camera seamlessly altered into a cutscene and I was facing Quiet. I can't describe how cool that felt. I was just messing around and then sniper bullet barely missed me and I was like "what the fuck is going on". So I get what you mean by "organic". |
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| Raskalov | Sep 17 2015, 05:47 AM Post #422 |
One of your Japanese animes
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The armored skulls aren't sponges if you CQC counter their machete attacks. I assume that's what you're meant to do, since it breaks their armor down and allows them to take a lot of damage from normal firearms. The fights in this game weren't revolutionary, they weren't comparable to previous MGS games, and they sure as hell don't have much going for them. But I loved them anyways. |
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| Acheron | Sep 17 2015, 05:48 AM Post #423 |
Vulcan Raven
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That's a really good way to look at it. It is very organic. Only one that wasn't was Sahelanthropus. They even gave it a "to be continued" beforehand, PW style. So I guess you could say it has one boss fight, lol
I don't recall doing the CQC counter breaking their armor, because I would place c4, and blow it up while they were stunned to break their armor after i did the counter Edited by Acheron, Sep 17 2015, 05:50 AM.
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| SolidLiquid | Sep 17 2015, 05:49 AM Post #424 |
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Legendary Mercenary
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Yeah, those last few pages got out of hand. Sorry about that guys. I'm just not going to let a game get bashed for things it's not doing wrong. Issues that don't exist because these "issues" don't hold any ground because they're shot down by gameplay elements and features within the game. You can make this game as hard as you want it to be, just by fucking pressing pause and turning off certain elements. There is a fast travel system for MB and both Afghanistan and Africa. This game constantly encourages you go out and take out outposts because the grade of soldiers continue to get better. Sorry, but I had to shoot down everything he said in those last few pages. |
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| Hoss | Sep 17 2015, 05:50 AM Post #425 |
One and Only
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Having said that, though, about bosses, I've loved every single one so far. When those new Skulls jumped out of that truck in Africa, and they had all the plating on them. Sheeit, that buttclench. It felt awesome. It didn't feel like a boss encounter, but it felt awesome because, as I mentioned, things unfold in this game organically and I really appreciate that as far as execution goes. @Solid: I found her the same way. I had found those ruins earlier, before being told about Quiet by Ocelot, and wanted to go back at night and look for diamonds because of the sparkles and how they are easier to find in the moonlight, and then next thing I know I'm fighting her. It was a nice feeling, and took me by surprise. |
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| SolidLiquid | Sep 17 2015, 05:50 AM Post #426 |
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Bro, the cqc counters are so dope when you time them right. I saw about 6 different animations while doing those counters against the skulls. So badass. |
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| Hoss | Sep 17 2015, 05:51 AM Post #427 |
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I suppose that holds true, yeah. Going back, man by lines about dialogue are ugly, lol. Sorry. Edited by Hoss, Sep 17 2015, 05:52 AM.
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| iExPreZz | Sep 17 2015, 05:59 AM Post #428 |
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Johnny Sasaki
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I'm shocked whenever I hear people complains about the boss fights, I have enjoyed each and everyone of them, they were freaking awesome, I don't mind that there isn't any like, build up to em, or to like give you some sort of reason to hate them before confronting them like in previous titles, I absolutely thought they were amazing, fighting the Skulls the first and second time (when they jump out of that truck I WAS LIKE HAWLY MOTHER OF GOD) it was batshit crazy, when they throw these kind of huge black stones atcha from a far and you have baaarely jump and dodge em, it was amazing. and the snipers I thought were awesome as well, the only thing that I guess was a nitpick for me is, that there was no personality to any boss I fought whatsoever (except Quite but), I dont mind em jumping out of nowhere but to be fighting these dead things that have no emotions whatsoever makes the boss fights forgettable. Skulls and Sahelanthropus were both just objects that I had to eliminate. |
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| Hoss | Sep 17 2015, 05:59 AM Post #429 |
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One and Only
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This is awesome. http://kotaku.com/metal-gear-solid-v-has-a-secret-that-seems-impossible-t-1731240140 I love how it relies on the WORLD to come to peace with one another. I love it. Also, I just wanna say, I cannot stand Huey and what he's become. I swear to God he is Hal, with a Benjamin Button disease. He just isn't his own person, at all. If I were to complain about ONE thing, it would be Huey and his character as a whole. I am 100% convinced it's Hal. I've never jumped in this game as much as I did when I first fought the armoured Skulls, lmao. Edited by Hoss, Sep 17 2015, 06:00 AM.
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| OLDZILLA77 | Sep 17 2015, 08:13 AM Post #430 |
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New Recruit
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I'd like to start by agreeing that what Big Boss put the medic through is downright hideous. To strip someone of his identity, personality, memories and even his body, all without consulting that person...sickening stuff. ( I wonder if they had to remove his eye to complete the transformation or if he lost it due to the explosion/crash). Not to mention he was made to experience and absorb Snake's past sufferings and traumas. Besides, Snake simply complied with Zero's plan ? Was such decision some sort of vow of reconciliation in order to allow Big Boss to get back in touch with the U.S. government and establish Foxhound ? Did he seriously think he would be able to deceive Cypher when it knows all about the freaking body double ? I was reflecting upon the hypothesis that Venom could eventually become..........Solidus Snake. Curiously , there is no mention of Solidus in the timeline displayed on TPP( but they acknowledge Eli and David ). Nobody appears aware of Solidus' existence. I always found it strange how Solidus could have been a commander during the Liberian Civil War at such an early age. Remember he was part of the so called "Army of the Devil" ? What if that refers to Venom's demonic appearance , horn and all ? What if Venom didn't really die in Outer Heaven ? What if his half-dead comatose body was recovered , given gene therapy , parasites , nanomachines , crazy plastic and reconstructive surgery and other outlandish procedures to make him a truly perfect copy of Big Boss, down to the genetic level ? What if they reconfigured his mind once again ? Erased and rewrote his past to make him believe he's always been a clone of Big Boss, born in 1972. Venom was the patriot's creation. I'd think they would still find use for him. I may be spilling insanity here, but this series has made us perform a facepalm more than once. We've been exposed to over the top plausibility defying absurdities by the writing team. Venom Snake becoming Solidus Snake wouldn't feel out of place considering the road MGS has taken after MGS3. I apologize for any grammatical sin or gross misspelling. English is not my first language. I'm brazilian. |
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| Firebrand | Sep 17 2015, 08:50 AM Post #431 |
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I think one of the great things about Metal Gear is you can perceive the story in any way you wish, especially if this is the last one. I personally loved the boss fights. Not a single one felt wasted. I remember my encounter with the Armored Parasites from Traitors' Caravan. I ran down the dirt road in an eerie rainstorm (I think lightning too) in what felt like a strange reminder of The Sorrow. I found the two tanks escorting the cargo truck I was after and snuck up on it carefully, before the SKULLS leapt out of the back for the fight that was about to ensue. Their dancing Puppet soldiers gave me an instant flashback to the SOP "zombies" of MGS4 but I had no time to ponder on old memories: I had some Cipher goons to waste. |
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| venom_sina | Sep 17 2015, 12:29 PM Post #432 |
Solidus
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"Why Metal Gear Solid V's Ending Is So Disappointing" beautifully written imo. http://kotaku.com/why-metal-gear-solid-vs-ending-was-so-disappointing-1729833383 "Metal Gear Solid V Fan's Comic Ending Is Better Than The Real Thing" this one is really cool: http://kotaku.com/metal-gear-solid-v-fans-comic-ending-is-better-than-the-1731050259 Read both if you have the time and have a nice day:) |
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| Big Paws | Sep 17 2015, 01:14 PM Post #433 |
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Game never even asked me to wear chicken hat because I never failed enough times to get it. Never died from helicopter, took it down with rifle if needed. Died from tank once. Only time I died from shotgun would be substitance mission. As I said, MGS might be hard on consoles, on PC and for a guy that plays Counter Strike on near competetive level, its a walk in a park. As for the children, well, looks like I would be the one living longer than you because that cute kid with ak47 put a bullet in your brain Actually not, these features do not fix that, but I can see the hype or blind love for the game is taking its toll on you. If you cant see its falws, im sorry, but people like you are the problem in modern gaming. Developers see that they can do literally everything and people will still love it and defend it. Edited by Big Paws, Sep 17 2015, 01:20 PM.
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| SolidLiquid | Sep 17 2015, 02:24 PM Post #434 |
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Fucking facepalm. Unlike you, I actually cared to explain how these features worked. You just say they don't without giving any explanation as to why. You also ignored Scotia's post to you. Like I said, you pick and choose what you want to read. Until you give a thorough explanation, what you just said carries no weight. Anybody can come on here and say, "this, this, this, and this doesn't work" But if you give no explanation as to why, nothing that you just said matters. I'm waiting. And until you do, here's the post you blatantly ignored. I also have about 4 people that agreed with everything I said and also stated that your complaints are stupid. Please go back and read people's responses. You're in the minority here. From Scotia to you "Now, about... ''those'' ideas. I don't really know where to start. Wanting to kill a character, this far in the past, before events unfold in the future for the sake of doing so simply because you disagree with their actions is silly. Liquid is a piece of shit, he always has been. His childhood is rooted in hatred, he isn't going to be an angel, he isn't going to be following rules. To expect anything more than that from him, as a character, is the fault of your own, if you were in this boat. This game gives you immense freedom, what it does not do, however, is allow you to change fate as you see fit simply because you're annoyed or lack an understanding of why these events are happening. The game is not going to let you create a paradox and continue on as if nothing were to happen. That isn't freedom, that is absurdity. The freedom given to you in this game, from the weapons it employs to you, to your arm, to your buddies and various items and tools is extremely high. It is only low to those without the capacity to think crucially and beyond a point of vanilla-state gameplay. Creativity has always been a thing for MGS, it is at an all-time high with MGSV. There should be no qualms with the freedom it gives you, because it gives you a lot of it. I can now do things in this MGS that I have thought of or wanted to do in previous games, but couldn't simply because the game didn't allow it, or technology didn't allow it. Regardless, asking for the freedom to murder a child is ludicrous and speaks volumes about you, if you're in this boat. VOLUMES. A kid with a weapon is a kid, he does not grow up into manhood simply because he holds a weapon of destruction. A kid is a kid. I cannot stress enough how hard my hand met my face when I read ''A kid with a gun is no longer a kid.'' earlier. MGSV is the kind of game that pays out exactly what you put into it in terms of man hours, dedication and creativity. Put in little, it will only give you so much. There is no way around this, whatsoever. As for things being easy, turn off markers, enemy presence indicators, aiming reticle, weapon slides, reflex, etc. Turn it all off. Come back and tell me it's easy. You won't. I guarantee this much." Since you seem to ignore what everyone is telling you. I'll put it right there for you. Edited by SolidLiquid, Sep 17 2015, 02:32 PM.
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| Big Paws | Sep 17 2015, 04:39 PM Post #435 |
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"Since you seem to ignore what everyone is telling you." Looks like its your issue. I have decided i wont be posting any explenations at all. Ive been on the internet long enough to know that if im really in minority even if i posted a secret of immortality nobody would care. Not worth my time. Oh, for a goodbye, I think the "majority" would greatly fit in the comment section under this review http://killscreendaily.com/articles/metal-gear-solid-v-phantom-pain-unending-battle/ Basicly anyone who doesnt rate this game 10/10 is a moron, idiot and should be decapitated. This is why we cant and we wont ever have nice things in video games industry. Great job. Edited by Big Paws, Sep 17 2015, 04:47 PM.
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| Hoss | Sep 17 2015, 05:11 PM Post #436 |
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No, you do in fact ignore a lot of things presented to you. You're ignorant. You also don't give explanations simply because you can't. Stop playing victim and acting like we think there aren't flaws in the game. There are, easily. The game is not perfect by a long shot. Also, you keep going back to ''hurr PC player here, it's so easy'' I'm a PC gamer, too. Have been for 28 years. Doesn't change the fact that if you turn off every single aid in the game, it gets incredibly difficult. And, like I said, and like you ignored, go turn all of them off and come back and tell me the game is still easy. I know you're playing with reflex, presence, etc. But knowing you, you're just gonna ignore that and pull some bullshit from your ass. Anyway, presenting your opinions and laying on flaws, arguments, etc. and then running away with a childish ''I WON'T EXPLAIN'' just proves you're young and undeveloped in the mind when it comes to debate and discussing things in an adult manner. No point in wasting time on the youth. Kinda funny, considering you complain about the youth so much but you're clearly young, yourself. (Especially to me)
Lol. Nevertheless, you said ''As a goodbye'' so hopefully you meant ''I'm leaving'' in the long run. NOTE: I love the new members we've gotten, you're all GREAT people but 2 of you have proven to be incredibly bullheaded, elitist shit heads, ignorant or all of the above. Everyone else is fine, but good lord you two truly need to learn what opinions are and how to carry yourself in conversation. You can't share your opinions, then ignore those of others and expect it go to over well. Socializing doesn't work this way. |
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| SolidLiquid | Sep 17 2015, 06:47 PM Post #437 |
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Lol how is the fact that you ignore almost everything that's presented to you "'my issue"? Hahaha It's clearly your issue because you're choosing to ignore mostly every point brought to you. Way to go there, champ. Also, I'm just going to point out that rather than explain why I'm wrong (I'm not), you choose to run away. That's again, a childish move. Rather than discuss like an adult. You're also choosing not to explain why because you don't have an explantation. You're wrong, your issues with the game are issues you've created on your own due to your own impatience with the game. Just because you're in the minority doesn't give you the excuse to not explain your reasoning. That's just running away and failing to carry an opinion of your own. This just shows that everything you've said carries no weight at all. Good riddance. I would like to also add, I love new members. But some of you, only a few, have your heads up your asses. You can't convey a good argument at all. In order to do so, you have to good reasoning to what you're saying. Something you have chosen to not do. This is how we always lose new members, people are too sensitive or they don't know how to argue and give reasoning. This game is far from perfect, I'm not blinded by anything. If you want to discuss actual issues with the game, I'm all for it. This game has plenty of them. Your issues are transparent, they don't exist. It's why you can't explain why they're flaws. Quit playing the victim like Scotia said. And act like we are saying there's no flaws, there are and are worth noting. Your "flaws" don't fit in that category. Also, this game is easy only if you want it to be easy. Scotia presented how you can make this game very difficult, and I showed you what he said, but wouldn't you know it, you chose to ignore that. Again. Turn off reflex, markers, aiming reticle, enemy presence detector. It makes it drastically harder. But if you're going to choose to be ignorant and purposely ignore valid points brought to you, you can gladly leave. Less people like you in a forum help a forum flow better because everyone else here knows how to argue and converse like an adult. The rest of the new members, you guys are great. Even when you disagree with things, you've presented why. And we will always respect that. No matter how much I or someone might disagree, if you explain why and don't result to insulting others or ignoring what is presented to you, everything will be just fine. To those new members who have been awesome, I'm sorry you've seen this side of myself and Scotia. We don't look to ban people or anything like that. If you get banned, you did it to yourself. To keep this forum running smoothly, we don't tolerate such behavior at all, as you can see. On behalf of all the mods: myself, Scotia, Brett, Baldgye, thank you for joining this forum. Just let this be a reminder that if you don't act like a jackass, there will be no problem Edited by SolidLiquid, Sep 17 2015, 07:14 PM.
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| Gatsu | Sep 17 2015, 07:47 PM Post #438 |
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I don't think you guys need to apologize too much. You've been with MGI for a long time and it's the new members who give hard time that should be sorry. Gotta respect da elders. Every place got rules. I wanna say that imo the Boss fights were amazing. I love fighting against Skulls ^_^. Maybe most intense fight for me was Traitors Caravan. I managed to Fulton the truck unnoticed after many deaths lol, active decoys ftw :). Then they saw me, I started running like hell but I love how fast those dudes are lol, no chance of escape. So I decided to fight them and noticed that they gonna own me soon, so I whistled my D-Walker, equipped with Gatling guns, speeding around the place and blasting them off while they chase me. Damn that was epic :D. This...this is absolutely what I think. Everyone should try enjoy it, Kojima's last MGS. Not waste the time complaining forever of what's missing or what it could have been. It does no good imo. I honestly don't get it why so many keep complaining of TPP. Like every time I visit N4G to check TPP news, dudes cry in the articles. It's so sad that almost give me FOXDIE. Edited by Gatsu, Sep 17 2015, 07:53 PM.
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| leguywhodrownedquiet | Sep 17 2015, 07:53 PM Post #439 |
Johnny Sasaki
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I'm in the list of annoying new members that have their heads up their asses.If so ban me! Am I in that list And changing full options avatar like that was something a teen do something better please cause I just got pissed off. How do I delete. Y account? I was excited to speak about the ending here but ..... Edited by leguywhodrownedquiet, Sep 17 2015, 07:58 PM.
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| Gatsu | Sep 17 2015, 08:00 PM Post #440 |
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Leguy, people can anytime pull their heads out of their asses, and start behaving differently. It's up to you. |
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