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MGSV Ending + Other SPOILER Discussions; For those who finished
Topic Started: Sep 9 2015, 12:25 AM (18,708 Views)
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Sep 21 2015, 09:24 PM
Hey guys.MGSV's Analysis+Review by Super Bunnyhop.it's really good.Check it out if you have the time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO4Tusk_V2k
Nice, nice, felt like I was listening to myself for a long time there, lol. Glad there are more people out there that see TPP like that, though not glad TPP is like that, lol. Though I wish it was longer, lol, anything I like I wish was always longer >.<
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I guess the theory was true after all :P
Edited by Kojimaphile, Sep 22 2015, 12:03 AM.
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Anyone else think that Anderson/SIGINT/The Darpa Chief is the biggest troll in the series now? Could've spilled the beans right there to Solid in that crappy cell, but NO we gotta go through all that other crap to figure everything out.
"This is good, isn't it?"
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Sep 22 2015, 01:29 AM
Anyone else think that Anderson/SIGINT/The Darpa Chief is the biggest troll in the series now? Could've spilled the beans right there to Solid in that crappy cell, but NO we gotta go through all that other crap to figure everything out.
That was Decoy Octapus in the cell with Snake.
Anderson was dead long before Snake arrived.
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Sep 22 2015, 01:55 AM
Metal_Gear_Z
Sep 22 2015, 01:29 AM
Anyone else think that Anderson/SIGINT/The Darpa Chief is the biggest troll in the series now? Could've spilled the beans right there to Solid in that crappy cell, but NO we gotta go through all that other crap to figure everything out.
That was Decoy Octapus in the cell with Snake.
Anderson was dead long before Snake arrived.
Yeah, Ocelot keeping his secrets ;) "WHOOPS SORRY BOSS! I killed the darpa chief"
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EXCELLENT SPEECH MY FRIEND, GIFT OF THE SILVER TONGUE. THEY SAY IT'S THE MARK OF A GOOD OFFICER... AND OF A LIAR. AMERICANS ARE TOO IN LOVE WITH THE SOUND OF THEIR OWN VOICE, TO SPEAK THE TRUTH!
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Holy shit. I forgot about that..... wow.
"This is good, isn't it?"
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Tis' all good.
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Raskalov
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXDZUbNrJHE

Ocelot's my favorite MGS character.
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Why did they have to use the Twin Snakes voice acting?? :(
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That video made me realize Ocelot's dialogue is recycled so fucking much lmao.
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Sep 22 2015, 03:40 AM
Why did they have to use the Twin Snakes voice acting?? :(
I dunno. I hate Twin Snakes, to be honest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3vPGmhSmdg

I think he said he'd use more MGS1 1998 voice acting in a remake of this video now that TPP is out.
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Something that always confused me, I understand why he calls Solid ''Carrier Boy'' (Foxdie) but I've still got not idea why he calls Raiden ''Carrier Boy'' when he doesn't have the Foxdie strain in him.
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Sep 22 2015, 03:49 AM
Somethign that always confused me, I understand why he calls Solid ''Carrier Boy'' (Foxdie) but I've still got not idea why he calls Raiden ''Carrier Boy'' when he doesn't have the Foxdie strain in him.
He's carrying the fate of Olga's child in his hands thanks to his nanomachines.

...I guess that's why.

I actually never noticed the Carrier Boy thing before.
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Sep 22 2015, 03:50 AM
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Sep 22 2015, 03:49 AM
Somethign that always confused me, I understand why he calls Solid ''Carrier Boy'' (Foxdie) but I've still got not idea why he calls Raiden ''Carrier Boy'' when he doesn't have the Foxdie strain in him.
He's carrying the fate of Olga's child in his hands thanks to his nanomachines.

...I guess that's why.

I actually never noticed the Carrier Boy thing before.
Wat

But Ocelot calls Raiden ''Carrier Boy''long before any of that is put on Raiden's shoulders.
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Sep 22 2015, 03:53 AM
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Sep 22 2015, 03:50 AM
Scotia
Sep 22 2015, 03:49 AM
Somethign that always confused me, I understand why he calls Solid ''Carrier Boy'' (Foxdie) but I've still got not idea why he calls Raiden ''Carrier Boy'' when he doesn't have the Foxdie strain in him.
He's carrying the fate of Olga's child in his hands thanks to his nanomachines.

...I guess that's why.

I actually never noticed the Carrier Boy thing before.
Wat

But Ocelot calls Raiden ''Carrier Boy''long before any of that is put on Raiden's shoulders.
Remember what Olga said? If Raiden had died at any time in the mission, her child would have died.
It was always on Raiden's shoulders, he just never realised it. Until Olga told him, anyways.
It could also be part of the "Solid Snake Simulation" that Ocelot believed the S3 plan to be. Treat Raiden as if he was Solid Snake.
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I dunno, I don't really think it's tied to Sunny, tbh. Seems like it'd be more in-line with the training program, especially since Ocelot tends to repeat lines to Raiden that he's previously said to Solid, in MGS1. Just seems a bit odd tbh.
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Honestly think it's just for the sake of the simulation. Just a line for fans to recognize, I think.
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That, or it could be a reference to how Raiden (the player) simply carrys out orders blindly
The 'logic' for Quiet being mostly naked is so retarded. At the time it was revealed I still couldn't quite believe it, they literally compare her powers and needs to an old man who spends the whole game in a leaf jumpsuit, yet she HAS to be naked.

I just watched the Jim Sterling video on it and I have to agree with him, it's sad that Kojima went from making The Boss, to this. Quiet could have been an epic character that was defined by her skills and abilities, yet instead she is defined by her ludicrous cleavage and lack of clothing.

Of all the issues I have with the game, including the ending, is by far the biggest issue for me and really only serves to undermine the story. It's also the one thing you can totally pin on Kojima for being lazy and for making a very bad decision. Sniper Wolf was a sexy sniper, yet she managed to be fully clothed...
Listening to the Giant Snakecast thing this morning, watching the Super Bunnyhop review last night and thinking on it all night and morning, I really like the story of this game a lot.
I think that it could have been told better, that Ocelot should have had a personality rather than just a walking talking wikipedia torturer and that Quiet wasn't some cheap wank bank for Kojima (as she is a legit cool character who has a really cool arch, but is totally over-shadowed by her 'outfit') but over all I think it was kind of brilliant.


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The whole thing makes PW so much more important, and cements it as the actual backstory to why Big Boss became the bad guy. Instead of doing it all over again, he has a new plan (Zanzibar Land) and is working on that while his decoy is keeping him safe.
PW is MGS5 and MGSV is a fake sequel.



It's still a shame that MGSV didn't get a proper boss fight ending, but looking at what Mission 51 is or what it hoped to be, I can understand why it didn't make it, the cost of making it would have been massive and tbh I didn't much like the ending with Psycho Mantis flying away with Eli, I'd rather it was left ambiguous
Edited by baldgye, Sep 22 2015, 10:19 AM.
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