MGSV Ending + Other SPOILER Discussions

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MGSV Ending + Other SPOILER Discussions; For those who finished
Topic Started: Sep 9 2015, 12:25 AM (18,705 Views)
Big Paws	Sep 22 2015, 11:59 PM Post #641
ignore me Posts: -18 Group: Members Member #175 Joined: Sep 11, 2015	my opinions are worthless Edited by SolidLiquid, Sep 23 2015, 12:41 AM.



Hoss	Sep 23 2015, 12:01 AM Post #642
One and Only Posts: 5,448 Group: Admins Member #11 Joined: Jan 23, 2012	Big Paws Sep 22 2015, 11:59 PM MGS 4 > shit > MGS 5 Lol @ you. Can't even face the music from pages ago. Get out of here.



No Place For Hayter	Sep 23 2015, 12:03 AM Post #643
Chico Posts: 83 Group: Members Member #165 Joined: Sep 9, 2015	venom_sina Sep 22 2015, 11:57 PM Scotia Sep 22 2015, 11:52 PM But seriously, fuck MGS4. Yeah,there are a lot of nonsense in MGS4,but for me it's a better game. With all due respect,for me it's "Fuck MGSV". To be fair, TPP was an honest attempt to be a great game, also TPP has amazing gameplay, where as MGS4 has a horrible story and horrible gameplay, ugh.



SolidLiquid	Sep 23 2015, 12:03 AM Post #644
Legendary Mercenary Posts: 1,511 Group: Admins Member #5 Joined: Jan 19, 2012	No Place For Hayter Sep 22 2015, 11:58 PM SolidLiquid Sep 22 2015, 11:54 PM Also, FUCK MGS4. Fan service out the ass. You know, just because something brings a shit ton of closure (where it doesn't need to be) doesn't make it a good story lol People should know that Kojkma himself was disappointed with MGS4. Old Snake was used as a conduit for Kojima's feeling towards MGS at the time. He didn't want to make MGS4. But people demanded answers to a game that wasn't supposed to have answers. (MGS2) Yeah, I have to agree, Fuck MGS4. Old Snake was Kojima embodied in the game. An old man, sick and tired of the way things are. Beaten down, used, and wanting to "Leave the world be". Despite my hate for MGS4. There's still a lot of good about the game. Fantastic visuals, cinematography, weapon system, music, and some strong scenes in the game. Unfortunately, there are way more drawn out, corny, unnecessary moments than there has to be. People fail to see that MGS4 was a big fuck you to a lot of people. Because people demanded answers, he tried to close every hole. Many of these answers completely under minded everything that MGS2 was about. Kojima didn't want to make MGS4. It was evident Edited by SolidLiquid, Sep 23 2015, 12:07 AM.



No Place For Hayter	Sep 23 2015, 12:05 AM Post #645
Chico Posts: 83 Group: Members Member #165 Joined: Sep 9, 2015	SolidLiquid Sep 23 2015, 12:03 AM No Place For Hayter Sep 22 2015, 11:58 PM SolidLiquid Sep 22 2015, 11:54 PM Also, FUCK MGS4. Fan service out the ass. You know, just because something brings a shit ton of closure (where it doesn't need to be) doesn't make it a good story lol People should know that Kojkma himself was disappointed with MGS4. Old Snake was used as a conduit for Kojima's feeling towards MGS at the time. He didn't want to make MGS4. But people demanded answers to a game that wasn't supposed to have answers. (MGS2) Yeah, I have to agree, Fuck MGS4. Old Snake was Kojima embodied in the game. An old man, sick and tired of the way things are. Beaten down, used, and wanting to "Leave the world be". Despite my hate for MGS4. There's still a lot of good about the game. Fantastic visuals, cinematography, weapon system, music, and some strong scenes in the game. Unfortunately, there are way more drawn out, corny, unnecessary moments than there has to be. People fail to see that MGS4 was a big fuck you to a lot of people. Because people demanded answers, he tried to close every hole. Many of these answers completely under minded everything that MGS2 was about. Kojima didn't want to make MGS4. It was evident. Yeah. I personally love the music for the game that title screen is also the best title screen EVER, lol.



baldgye	Sep 23 2015, 12:07 AM Post #646
BANNED Posts: -8,383,597 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	Can someone link me to big paws autism?
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Hoss	Sep 23 2015, 12:08 AM Post #647
One and Only Posts: 5,448 Group: Admins Member #11 Joined: Jan 23, 2012	baldgye Sep 23 2015, 12:07 AM Can someone link me to big paws autism? It's in this thread, just read through it a bit, but honestly it's not worth it.



SolidLiquid	Sep 23 2015, 12:08 AM Post #648
Legendary Mercenary Posts: 1,511 Group: Admins Member #5 Joined: Jan 19, 2012	Big Paws Sep 22 2015, 11:59 PM MGS 4 > shit > MGS 5 Still ignoring what was addressed to you pages ago. Nothing you say anymore matters at all nor has any credibility. You can't even carry your own opinion. You can gladly leave.



Hoss	Sep 23 2015, 12:09 AM Post #649
One and Only Posts: 5,448 Group: Admins Member #11 Joined: Jan 23, 2012	Pete, read pages 7, 8 and 9 entirely.



venom_sina	Sep 23 2015, 12:11 AM Post #650
Solidus Posts: 41 Group: Members Member #173 Joined: Sep 10, 2015	No Place For Hayter Sep 23 2015, 12:03 AM venom_sina Sep 22 2015, 11:57 PM Scotia Sep 22 2015, 11:52 PM But seriously, fuck MGS4. Yeah,there are a lot of nonsense in MGS4,but for me it's a better game. With all due respect,for me it's "Fuck MGSV". To be fair, TPP was an honest attempt to be a great game, also TPP has amazing gameplay, where as MGS4 has a horrible story and horrible gameplay, ugh. In fact,every game after MGS3 had story issues.In MGS4 and V we can see how Kojima's standards in storytelling dropped.He applied some sexy girls in both games for no reason,lol.I was like:"You're kidding,Kojima,right?!"



No Place For Hayter	Sep 23 2015, 12:12 AM Post #651
Chico Posts: 83 Group: Members Member #165 Joined: Sep 9, 2015	venom_sina Sep 23 2015, 12:11 AM No Place For Hayter Sep 23 2015, 12:03 AM venom_sina Sep 22 2015, 11:57 PM Scotia Sep 22 2015, 11:52 PM But seriously, fuck MGS4. Yeah,there are a lot of nonsense in MGS4,but for me it's a better game. With all due respect,for me it's "Fuck MGSV". To be fair, TPP was an honest attempt to be a great game, also TPP has amazing gameplay, where as MGS4 has a horrible story and horrible gameplay, ugh. In fact,every game after MGS3 had story issues.In MGS4 and V we can see how Kojima's standards in storytelling dropped.He applied some sexy girls in both games for no reason,lol.I was like:"You're kidding,Kojima,right?!" ........PW is my second favorite MGS game, lol



baldgye	Sep 23 2015, 12:13 AM Post #652
BANNED Posts: -8,383,597 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	Scotia Sep 23 2015, 12:09 AM Pete, read pages 7, 8 and 9 entirely. cheers m8
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venom_sina	Sep 23 2015, 12:14 AM Post #653
Solidus Posts: 41 Group: Members Member #173 Joined: Sep 10, 2015	No Place For Hayter Sep 23 2015, 12:12 AM venom_sina Sep 23 2015, 12:11 AM No Place For Hayter Sep 23 2015, 12:03 AM venom_sina Sep 22 2015, 11:57 PM Scotia Sep 22 2015, 11:52 PM But seriously, fuck MGS4. Yeah,there are a lot of nonsense in MGS4,but for me it's a better game. With all due respect,for me it's "Fuck MGSV". To be fair, TPP was an honest attempt to be a great game, also TPP has amazing gameplay, where as MGS4 has a horrible story and horrible gameplay, ugh. In fact,every game after MGS3 had story issues.In MGS4 and V we can see how Kojima's standards in storytelling dropped.He applied some sexy girls in both games for no reason,lol.I was like:"You're kidding,Kojima,right?!" ........PW is my second favorite MGS game, lol Yeah,better than MGS4,but still can't reach MGS2 and 3's quality.



No Place For Hayter	Sep 23 2015, 12:16 AM Post #654
Chico Posts: 83 Group: Members Member #165 Joined: Sep 9, 2015	Fair enough, I adore PW more for it's themes and layered massages. It is a different kind of MGS game as well. I think MGS3 is my favorite but MGS2 is the best written, lol. Edited by No Place For Hayter, Sep 23 2015, 12:16 AM.



SolidLiquid	Sep 23 2015, 12:16 AM Post #655
Legendary Mercenary Posts: 1,511 Group: Admins Member #5 Joined: Jan 19, 2012	venom_sina Sep 23 2015, 12:11 AM No Place For Hayter Sep 23 2015, 12:03 AM venom_sina Sep 22 2015, 11:57 PM Scotia Sep 22 2015, 11:52 PM But seriously, fuck MGS4. Yeah,there are a lot of nonsense in MGS4,but for me it's a better game. With all due respect,for me it's "Fuck MGSV". To be fair, TPP was an honest attempt to be a great game, also TPP has amazing gameplay, where as MGS4 has a horrible story and horrible gameplay, ugh. In fact,every game after MGS3 had story issues.In MGS4 and V we can see how Kojima's standards in storytelling dropped.He applied some sexy girls in both games for no reason,lol.I was like:"You're kidding,Kojima,right?!" And you know why his storytelling has gotten worse right? Besides PW. He put a lot of passion into PW. Good game through and through. Kojima has been trying to end MGS ever since MGS2. He's been done with it for a while. But the fans are NEVER satisfied and demanded answers. People were outraged from MGS2. So he made MGS3. A whole new story, setting, and characters with a young BB. But still, MGS2's ending still wasn't explained(it's not supposed to be), insert MGS4. A total mess. Peace Walker was actually first called MGS5 during development, but that was changed before release. He had a lot of passion for PW. And he still put a lot of work into TPP in its gameplay and it's performance. I'm sure the writing suffered because he's been beating a dead horse for some time when it comes to the MGS saga's narrative



No Place For Hayter	Sep 23 2015, 12:18 AM Post #656
Chico Posts: 83 Group: Members Member #165 Joined: Sep 9, 2015	SolidLiquid Sep 23 2015, 12:16 AM venom_sina Sep 23 2015, 12:11 AM No Place For Hayter Sep 23 2015, 12:03 AM venom_sina Sep 22 2015, 11:57 PM Scotia Sep 22 2015, 11:52 PM But seriously, fuck MGS4. Yeah,there are a lot of nonsense in MGS4,but for me it's a better game. With all due respect,for me it's "Fuck MGSV". To be fair, TPP was an honest attempt to be a great game, also TPP has amazing gameplay, where as MGS4 has a horrible story and horrible gameplay, ugh. In fact,every game after MGS3 had story issues.In MGS4 and V we can see how Kojima's standards in storytelling dropped.He applied some sexy girls in both games for no reason,lol.I was like:"You're kidding,Kojima,right?!" And you know why his storytelling has gotten worse right? Besides PW. He put a lot of passion into PW. Good game through and through. Kojima has been trying to end MGS ever since MGS2. He's been done with it for a while. But the fans are NEVER satisfied and demanded answers. People were outraged from MGS2. So he made MGS3. A whole new story, setting, and characters with a young BB. But still, MGS2's ending still wasn't explained(it's not supposed to be), insert MGS4. A total mess. Peace Walker was actually first called MGS5 during development, but that was changed before release. He had a lot of passion for PW. And he still put a lot of work into TPP in its gameplay and it's performance. I'm sure the writing suffered because he's been beating a dead horse for some time when it comes to the MGS saga's narrative PW really tried to pull away from MGS as well with a different game style, and new characters. At least Kojima is now free from the title of MGS. He needs to think more about the game he is making and less about the series, lol.



SolidLiquid	Sep 23 2015, 12:23 AM Post #657
Legendary Mercenary Posts: 1,511 Group: Admins Member #5 Joined: Jan 19, 2012	I'm happy for him. He can finally be done. And honestly, ending the series with an ambiguous ending is awesome. It doesn't give answers and cater to those who need to be spoon fed a black and white ending. MGS2 was supposed to be the end and it had an ambiguous ending. You can tell he's been wanting to end the series with a game that leaves questions and leaves things for interpretation. Good for him. He can move on and so can we (or at least some of us because some people are incapable of thinking for themselves and must have closure)



venom_sina	Sep 23 2015, 12:23 AM Post #658
Solidus Posts: 41 Group: Members Member #173 Joined: Sep 10, 2015	SolidLiquid Sep 23 2015, 12:16 AM venom_sina Sep 23 2015, 12:11 AM No Place For Hayter Sep 23 2015, 12:03 AM venom_sina Sep 22 2015, 11:57 PM Scotia Sep 22 2015, 11:52 PM But seriously, fuck MGS4. Yeah,there are a lot of nonsense in MGS4,but for me it's a better game. With all due respect,for me it's "Fuck MGSV". To be fair, TPP was an honest attempt to be a great game, also TPP has amazing gameplay, where as MGS4 has a horrible story and horrible gameplay, ugh. In fact,every game after MGS3 had story issues.In MGS4 and V we can see how Kojima's standards in storytelling dropped.He applied some sexy girls in both games for no reason,lol.I was like:"You're kidding,Kojima,right?!" And you know why his storytelling has gotten worse right? Besides PW. He put a lot of passion into PW. Good game through and through. Kojima has been trying to end MGS ever since MGS2. He's been done with it for a while. But the fans are NEVER satisfied and demanded answers. People were outraged from MGS2. So he made MGS3. A whole new story, setting, and characters with a young BB. But still, MGS2's ending still wasn't explained(it's not supposed to be), insert MGS4. A total mess. Peace Walker was actually first called MGS5 during development, but that was changed before release. He had a lot of passion for PW. And he still put a lot of work into TPP in its gameplay and it's performance. I'm sure the writing suffered because he's been beating a dead horse for some time when it comes to the MGS saga's narrative Yeah,PW is a good game overall.It borrowed a lot of things from MGS3 storywise,but in the end it can stand on its feet. The only complaint that I have about PW is the lack of human boss fights,which MGS3 was good at it.And that lack of human bosses gives us a lot of AI and mech fights,which is really annoying imo,lol. Edited by venom_sina, Sep 23 2015, 12:25 AM.



Hoss	Sep 23 2015, 12:23 AM Post #659
One and Only Posts: 5,448 Group: Admins Member #11 Joined: Jan 23, 2012	What bums me out is Kojima doesn't hold the rights to Fox Engine, it's stuck in dead, cold hands of Konami. :/



SolidLiquid	Sep 23 2015, 12:26 AM Post #660
Legendary Mercenary Posts: 1,511 Group: Admins Member #5 Joined: Jan 19, 2012	But PW was awesome. It tried something completely different and it excelled. A completely new approach and was the original MGS5. PW is why TPP is even good. It took everything that was great about PW and perfected it. (Its gameplay) Considering how close PW/GZ/TPP are in terms of years in the timeline, I like to think about it as one big experience and story. Credit to Baldgye with that view of it. Scotia Sep 23 2015, 12:23 AM What bums me out is Kojima doesn't hold the rights to Fox Engine, it's stuck in dead, cold hands of Konami. :/ What's even worse about that is that Fox Engine supervisor who helped out a lot with GZ/TPP left Konami. So it's now truly in Konami's awful hands. Edited by SolidLiquid, Sep 23 2015, 12:29 AM.



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