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MGSV Ending + Other SPOILER Discussions; For those who finished
Topic Started: Sep 9 2015, 12:25 AM (18,702 Views)
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Sep 23 2015, 03:37 AM
Curious, are the EXTREME, TOTAL STEALTH, etc. missions required, to move forward, or no?
You dont need to do the hard missions or in order to progress in the story. If a new story mission doesn't pop up then make sure you listened to all the tapes, and then just go into the field, do sideops/replay old missions and a new story mission will pop up when you return to ACC. I finished the story (except Quiet's cause butterfly emblem) and only did [Subsistence] C2W, too damn hard. However, extreme mission 40 is pretty fun and worth the rewards.
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Yeah Adbro you don't need to do the extreme and stealth remixes to progress the story
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Oh damn, seriously? I thought it was necessary. Oh well, at least they're out of the way for me and S ranked them.
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Yeah I went through and did some of em anyway, so far I've got everything S ranked, even the ''redux'' missions.

Quiet's fight on Extreme was real fun.

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So if you finish that extreme version you get her as a buddy again?
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I still have her cause I haven't lost her as a buddy yet. I'm never gonna let my titty monster sniper go.
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I really don't think, just to mention it, that MGS4 really impacts that much on MGS2, it dosnt reference like 90% of what that game was
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I know it's a spoiler thread but idgaf

You know, it's kind of a bummer for me that MGS2 is still the one MGS that has all kinds of technology (meme) in it.

Melting ice, steam that would hurt, smoke/flour/etc for lasers, visible darts, glass that breaks realistically, footprints, the various ways you can shoot individual limbs, shooting radios, etc. MGS3 had a lot of this, and MGS4, too. But MGSV, even with this hot ass new engine, has almost none of this. :s
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To expand on my other post with more spoilers:


That kind of stuff can be taken within the context of it being a fake sequel and so it not being an actual metal gear game means it dosnt get the same polish as a proper metal gear game. But I'm probably stretching it and it's actually because Konami ran out of money they were willing to part for MGSV
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I saw you say ''fake sequel'' a bit and naw, it's a sequel, brah. It's just a rushed on. But still, bums me out.

I spent hours in the MGS2 demo, tinkering with all the tech and AI. Dat pantry room, hnng,
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Sep 23 2015, 09:15 AM
I saw you say ''fake sequel'' a bit and naw, it's a sequel, brah. It's just a rushed on. But still, bums me out.

I spent hours in the MGS2 demo, tinkering with all the tech and AI. Dat pantry room, hnng,
You don't think MGSV is the 'fake' follow up to MGS3 and the 'real' one is MGS:PW (I know they are in chronological order but you know what I mean)
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Sep 23 2015, 10:25 AM
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Sep 23 2015, 09:15 AM
I saw you say ''fake sequel'' a bit and naw, it's a sequel, brah. It's just a rushed on. But still, bums me out.

I spent hours in the MGS2 demo, tinkering with all the tech and AI. Dat pantry room, hnng,
You don't think MGSV is the 'fake' follow up to MGS3 and the 'real' one is MGS:PW (I know they are in chronological order but you know what I mean)
No, because that's an incredibly silly viewpoint...
It's silly because there's nothing here that says ''Hey this is the game that comes after MGS3, sequel-wise'' because that's just retarded. MGSV may as well be PW2, tbh.
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Sep 23 2015, 10:30 AM
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Sep 23 2015, 10:25 AM
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Sep 23 2015, 09:15 AM
I saw you say ''fake sequel'' a bit and naw, it's a sequel, brah. It's just a rushed on. But still, bums me out.

I spent hours in the MGS2 demo, tinkering with all the tech and AI. Dat pantry room, hnng,
You don't think MGSV is the 'fake' follow up to MGS3 and the 'real' one is MGS:PW (I know they are in chronological order but you know what I mean)
No, because that's an incredibly silly viewpoint...
How come?

MGSV was suppose to be how Big Boss went from hero to villain, yet it wasn't even about him. What it did is it helped contextualize PW showing how that was actually how he turned bad and that during the events of MGSV and MG the real Big Boss was actually just building up Outer Heaven.
MGSV is the story of a diversion, I agree the lack of polish is a stretch on the 'fake sequel' stuff but the lack of voice acting is intentional, so perhaps that is too, but probably not lol
I agree that it's essentially PW2, which is what I'm kinda getting at, but perhaps badly lol
Also I'm not trying to suggest that this comes after MGS3, it comes after MGS:PW and in doing so gives it alot more context.

MGS3 -> MGS:PW(5) -> Metal Gear
MGS3 -> MGS:PW - > MGSV -> Metal Gear
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this guy nails it.

whilst I fucking loved the gameplay, the stories never felt so open...

https://www.reddit.com/r/metalgearsolid/comments/3m1c80/the_phantom_patch_endgame_talk/
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Sep 23 2015, 12:21 PM
this guy nails it.

whilst I fucking loved the gameplay, the stories never felt so open...

https://www.reddit.com/r/metalgearsolid/comments/3m1c80/the_phantom_patch_endgame_talk/
That guy is a fucking moron who deserves to be disappointed.
I mean, that guy said he wanted Drebin to be in the game. Drebin, possibly the worst character in MGS4, he wants a fucking back story for...
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I'm just starting to think MGSV is a poor retcon.

I've never felt so detached from a MG story.
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What is it retconin exactly?
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yeah fuck drebin no need for that comment, but some of the others I do agree with
how did SS kill BB in MG1, and then he return in MG2.
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Thats not a retcon, it's a form of irony.
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Sep 23 2015, 01:50 PM
yeah fuck drebin no need for that comment, but some of the others I do agree with
how did SS kill BB in MG1, and then he return in MG2.
He didn't he killed Venom (the fake Big Boss) in MG1 and then the real Big Boss was in MG2.
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