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link; https://www.reddit.com/r/NeverBeGameOver/comments/3mfp22/is_the_supposed_zero_model_legit/
I've been reading that sub a lot on the way to work and tbh I think I've gleamed as much as there is to gleam from MGSV
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after 20 years

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oh for fuck sake, please don't post fake ass models of zero.

this isn't fucking MGSF

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not to mention it looks like it was ripped straight of turbosquid lol
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Sep 29 2015, 10:11 PM
oh for fuck sake, please don't post fake ass models of zero.

this isn't fucking MGSF

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not to mention it looks like it was ripped straight of turbosquid lol
Calm down. Seriously.

I'll be sure to run everything I post by you now, you all-knowing God.

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To be fair, that's one of the only times I can remember Adbro getting something wrong, he's usually pretty on the money and googles or looks up shit before posting.

But I think I've come full circle on MGSV. After getting proper salty last night, I think I've finally worked it all out in my head for where it ranks for me compared to the other games and what I think of it as a whole. My list ATM

MGS2
MGS
MGS3
MGSV
MGSPW
MGS4


But I think maybe replaying PW might bump it up, I'm not sure. PW had a lot of great silly shit, like being able to complete missions armed only with a banana that is lacking from MGSV. But PW also has insane grinding and forced coop that's impossible to get to work outside of Japan.
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It wasn't even me that got it wrong. I was pasting a Steam convo (excerpt) Gatsu sent me. You damn bellend.
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Yeah but you posted it bae
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Idgaf. Your Mother popped you out of the oven and you don't see me complaining, do you?
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Only because your lazy. I complain about it all the time :D
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MGSV would probably rank first for me if it didn't feel like its endpart was rushed together once it became apparent Kojima's full vision couldn't be done in the timeframe Konami gave him. Whatever the story with that stuff is, we know content was cut. Gameplay-wise MGSV's a clear winner, but as a whole it ranks behind MGS1 and MGS3 for me.

Also, I've still not quite figured out how I feel about Venom.
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Sep 30 2015, 12:41 AM
Brett
Sep 29 2015, 10:11 PM
oh for fuck sake, please don't post fake ass models of zero.

this isn't fucking MGSF

;)
not to mention it looks like it was ripped straight of turbosquid lol
Calm down. Seriously.

I'll be sure to run everything I post by you now, you all-knowing God.

dat sarc'

happy to know you see me as a god though :D

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Sep 30 2015, 09:51 AM
MGSV would probably rank first for me if it didn't feel like its endpart was rushed together once it became apparent Kojima's full vision couldn't be done in the timeframe Konami gave him. Whatever the story with that stuff is, we know content was cut. Gameplay-wise MGSV's a clear winner, but as a whole it ranks behind MGS1 and MGS3 for me.

Also, I've still not quite figured out how I feel about Venom.
I want to do a full breakdown of the game, but I still think the context it brings to PW is really pretty awesome, I just need to figure out a way to put it into words that humans can understadn
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Sep 30 2015, 10:23 AM
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Sep 30 2015, 09:51 AM
MGSV would probably rank first for me if it didn't feel like its endpart was rushed together once it became apparent Kojima's full vision couldn't be done in the timeframe Konami gave him. Whatever the story with that stuff is, we know content was cut. Gameplay-wise MGSV's a clear winner, but as a whole it ranks behind MGS1 and MGS3 for me.

Also, I've still not quite figured out how I feel about Venom.
I want to do a full breakdown of the game, but I still think the context it brings to PW is really pretty awesome, I just need to figure out a way to put it into words that humans can understadn
'IT IS PRETTY GUD M8'

done.
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Sep 30 2015, 10:32 AM
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Sep 30 2015, 10:23 AM
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Sep 30 2015, 09:51 AM
MGSV would probably rank first for me if it didn't feel like its endpart was rushed together once it became apparent Kojima's full vision couldn't be done in the timeframe Konami gave him. Whatever the story with that stuff is, we know content was cut. Gameplay-wise MGSV's a clear winner, but as a whole it ranks behind MGS1 and MGS3 for me.

Also, I've still not quite figured out how I feel about Venom.
I want to do a full breakdown of the game, but I still think the context it brings to PW is really pretty awesome, I just need to figure out a way to put it into words that humans can understadn
'ITS RATE'

done.
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Ugh. I am almost certain Zero was in Chapter 3, now.
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That Zero model is a confirmed 'fake' made by some modder who wanted to run around as Zero


Ooooh so it was fake ;D, phew... Still looked pretty nice lol.

It sort of crushed me when didn't see Zero in the game (yea was told before release) and then I saw this, I was like omg so it was gonna be there?! The Truth cassette tapes were awesome, but daaaamn I would have loved to see Zero ;). Can't get everything I want I guess ;(...
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I am sorry if I upset anyone by my last post but I had just finished MGSV main missions and left like there was not enough closure to join up with MG, that so much important stories had not even been carried a long at all. Would this be the only Metal Gear game were you don't play as either Big Boss or Solid Snake?
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Sep 30 2015, 08:51 PM
I am sorry if I upset anyone by my last post but I had just finished MGSV main missions and left like there was not enough closure to join up with MG, that so much important stories had not even been carried a long at all. Would this be the only Metal Gear game were you don't play as either Big Boss or Solid Snake?
...nope....






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Sep 30 2015, 08:54 PM
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Sep 30 2015, 08:51 PM
I am sorry if I upset anyone by my last post but I had just finished MGSV main missions and left like there was not enough closure to join up with MG, that so much important stories had not even been carried a long at all. Would this be the only Metal Gear game were you don't play as either Big Boss or Solid Snake?
...nope....






mgs2
What game am I missing? I havnt included MG Rising in that comment, I know.
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Sep 30 2015, 09:00 AM
But I think maybe replaying PW might bump it up, I'm not sure. PW had a lot of great silly shit, like being able to complete missions armed only with a banana that is lacking from MGSV. But PW also has insane grinding and forced coop that's impossible to get to work outside of Japan.
PW defense force incoming! Just kidding :p

Yeah one of my few problems with PW is how super grindy it is, of course this would be WAY better if most of the missions in the game weren't vehicle missions >.< and while the game does reach a point of "I need the bandanna to S this mission but I get the bandanna by S ranking this mission" the CO-OP is never forced (of course unless we are talking about CO-OP only weapons, I was able to completely finish the game all by myself twice, that being said, yes it is a problem that it is a set difficulty instead of scaling with the players, making a lot of end game vehicle missions a grind as they shouldn't be that hard as they expect you to bring CO-OP friends. Just because it is possible does not mean it is good, lol, they should have definitely scaled the difficulty instead of having a set difficulty, it makes it much harder for people like me whom don't play online, lol >.<

And just for the heck of it here is my ranking of the games (including both story and gameplay)

MGS3
MGSPW
MGS2
MG:S
MGSV
MGS4

Though it isn't really fair to ever list them in any order as it always comes off worse than it is, for example my list puts MG:S in the bottom half making it look worse than it is, I LOVE the first MGS game and is just as awesome and is just as a timeless amazing classic as the rest, I can only put these in any order by a small margin and personal opinion, lol, I'm more of a person to judge something by itself and not compared to others, because to say one thing is better than another is just weird for me, MGS 1/2/3/PW all serve their purpose amazingly well for me it isn't about how they rate to each other it is how well they are made for themselves. And due to this mentality of mine I can't really find a permanent order (except for the bottom two being MGSV>MGS4 which is a little harsh to MGSV considering the amazing gameplay etc, but to me it isn't better than the rest of the games and thus it gets put under them) I mean even now, I want to move PW around, maybe stick it below MG:S, PW/1/2 are kind of a float area where my opinion has a hard time calling one better or worse than another, lol.
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Sep 30 2015, 08:57 PM
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Sep 30 2015, 08:54 PM
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Sep 30 2015, 08:51 PM
I am sorry if I upset anyone by my last post but I had just finished MGSV main missions and left like there was not enough closure to join up with MG, that so much important stories had not even been carried a long at all. Would this be the only Metal Gear game were you don't play as either Big Boss or Solid Snake?
...nope....






mgs2
What game am I missing? I havnt included MG Rising in that comment, I know.
I think he means MGS2. But I think you are not including it to the list because you do play as Snake for the prologue, where as Baldgye is adding it because you only play as him for the prologue. But due to your wording MGS2 would be included because you said "Metal Gear game were you don't play as either Big Boss or Solid Snake?" you don't state for how long or short you would have to play as said main character for it to be added or removed from the list, and as such no matter how short or long our time was with Raiden, MGS2 would be added to the list because in that game there is a point where you don't play as either of the Snakes. But I'm pretty sure you mean as in a MGS where you never play as any of the Snakes. Some pretty tricky wording and conditions here so that is why, lol.

At least that's how I see it, lol.
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