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Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes; Xbox 360, PS3, PC (?), uses FoxEngine, open world
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Mar 6 2013, 07:49 PM
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Work out how the fucking format posts.
And no, one hour isn't enough time to meaningfully judge a 60-70hr game.
But like.. 90% of my bashing were just the menu crap

and like before with revengeance I haven't bashed PW all that much, it's come up every now and then but I haven't made an effort to piss on the game
No, no it wasn't.
Most of your crying was aimed at the story and general structure of the entire game, which you said was horrible and not like a 'proper' 'real' MGS title.

I remember well becasue we had this same fucking argument when you where saying it. Only then you didn't let on that you'd not actually even played the game.
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Dat selective memory.
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@cartman

Work out how the fucking format posts.
And no, one hour isn't enough time to meaningfully judge a 60-70hr game.
But like.. 90% of my bashing were just the menu crap

and like before with revengeance I haven't bashed PW all that much, it's come up every now and then but I haven't made an effort to piss on the game
No, no it wasn't.
Most of your crying was aimed at the story and general structure of the entire game, which you said was horrible and not like a 'proper' 'real' MGS title.

Which ties into the intrusive menu

And I don't think I emphasized story all that much in my posts, definitely the structure of the game though
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....how thick are you... HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU JUDGE THE STRUCTURE OF A GAME YOU DIDN'T EVEN ACTUALLY PLAY...



..what do you mean? .. hurrrr i played like 1 hour i know all the things huurr hurr hurr
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Mar 6 2013, 07:54 PM
....how thick are you... HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU JUDGE THE STRUCTURE OF A GAME YOU DIDN'T EVEN ACTUALLY PLAY...



..what do you mean? .. hurrrr i played like 1 hour i know all the things huurr hurr hurr
So 2 hours in they change the way the entire game is set up then?

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Mar 6 2013, 07:54 PM
....how thick are you... HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU JUDGE THE STRUCTURE OF A GAME YOU DIDN'T EVEN ACTUALLY PLAY...



..what do you mean? .. hurrrr i played like 1 hour i know all the things huurr hurr hurr
So 2 hours in they change the way the entire game is set up then?

Not the entire game, but a lot is introduced to you, more than what you've seen, nigger.

Only a true fan would know.
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....how thick are you... HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU JUDGE THE STRUCTURE OF A GAME YOU DIDN'T EVEN ACTUALLY PLAY...



..what do you mean? .. hurrrr i played like 1 hour i know all the things huurr hurr hurr
So 2 hours in they change the way the entire game is set up then?

Thanks for answering my question.
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Mar 6 2013, 07:54 PM
....how thick are you... HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU JUDGE THE STRUCTURE OF A GAME YOU DIDN'T EVEN ACTUALLY PLAY...



..what do you mean? .. hurrrr i played like 1 hour i know all the things huurr hurr hurr
So 2 hours in they change the way the entire game is set up then?

Not the entire game, but a lot is introduced to you, more than what you've seen, nigger.

Only a true fan would know.
Like more time being spent in menus pimping metal gears and such?

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....how thick are you... HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU JUDGE THE STRUCTURE OF A GAME YOU DIDN'T EVEN ACTUALLY PLAY...



..what do you mean? .. hurrrr i played like 1 hour i know all the things huurr hurr hurr
So 2 hours in they change the way the entire game is set up then?

Not the entire game, but a lot is introduced to you, more than what you've seen, nigger.

Only a true fan would know.
Like more time being spent in menus pimping metal gears and such?

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Not a bad time, no. Bad time to show you really are this dumb, though.
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It's like Cartman is channeling the ghost of Adamska.

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I'm not going to get extremely into this, but I remember discussing with you Cartman, about PW. You definitely were very opposed to this game.

You hated the structure of the game. You can't stand that the story is based on "missions" per se. After each mission, you go back to your mother base. You emphasized on that. You said it ruined the flow of the game, and it wasn't a true MGS game for that reason. Traditionally, MGS games put you in setting and you're there for the entirety of the game, excluding MGS4. PW was a different take, and I feel Kojima did an excellent job with this game. He allowed you, the player, to personally customize your own army, weapons, and squads. He allowed you to build "Outer Heaven". I think that is absolutely amazing, IMO. One of my favorite MGS titles, some of the best gameplay in the series.

But, you also couldn't stand the "pimping" of making your own Metal Gear. Sure, not everyone will like that. I didn't necessarily love it, but I didn't mind it at all. Not something to bash a whole game for.

You ranted on Randolph being the voice actor for Huey. I thought it was nice, an homage almost, to the hardcore MGS fans who went out and got the game. To each his own, though.

I never really got upset that you bashed PW much, I just continued to tell you to just play it and you might change your mind. Ashley Wood's art style for the cutscenes are incredible, I love the story. The boss battles, the music.

But, since you're taking another chance with PW, I honestly hope you go in with a more open mind and that end up loving it as much as I do.

That's my 2 cents.
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Mar 6 2013, 08:42 PM
I'm not going to get extremely into this, but I remember discussing with you Cartman, about PW. You definitely were very opposed to this game.

You hated the structure of the game. You can't stand that the story is based on "missions" per se. After each mission, you go back to your mother base. You emphasized on that. You said it ruined the flow of the game, and it wasn't a true MGS game for that reason. Traditionally, MGS games put you in setting and you're there for the entirety of the game, excluding MGS4. PW was a different take, and I feel Kojima did an excellent job with this game. He allowed you, the player, to personally customize your own army, weapons, and squads. He allowed you to build "Outer Heaven". I think that is absolutely amazing, IMO. One of my favorite MGS titles, some of the best gameplay in the series.

But, you also couldn't stand the "pimping" of making your own Metal Gear. Sure, not everyone will like that. I didn't necessarily love it, but I didn't mind it at all. Not something to bash a whole game for.

You ranted on Randolph being the voice actor for Huey. I thought it was nice, an homage almost, to the hardcore MGS fans who went out and got the game. To each his own, though.

I never really got upset that you bashed PW much, I just continued to tell you to just play it and you might change your mind. Ashley Wood's art style for the cutscenes are incredible, I love the story. The boss battles, the music.

But, since you're taking another chance with PW, I honestly hope you go in with a more open mind and that end up loving it as much as I do.

That's my 2 cents.
Yes, that is the jist of it. Rarely did I bring up anything story related cause frankly I don't know anything about it. I bashed the changes made to the campaign cause I'm just simply not a fan of it.. Pimping Metal Gear has always been a joke of mine, it's a nitpick and certainly not anything major that would be a game breaker, I just found it so weird when I first found out about it that I've enjoyed bashing said silly feature

I'm fairly sure I'll be able to enjoy PW as a game just like I enjoy playing MGS4.. As I've said, I highly doubt the game is garbage, I just don't agree with a lot of the changes made. Me not having played the game for all this time probably has more to do with the fact that my psp was complete garbage with a broken screen and analog stick (and tbh I fucking hate the controls on the psp version) and when I first got the HD Collection I had just gotten done with mgs2 and 3 and then my uncle took back his ps3

So I'm most definitely gonna play it before GZ comes out
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should be interesting, can't wait to see what Kojima has planned.

The last talk he did like this didn't actually mention or talk about what the next MGS would be, but did feature images of Raiden, and the dog from (what would be) MGR... so given that we already know what the next MGS will be, there should be alot of awesome shit to learn from his talk!
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...or for it to be moved as a PS4 exclusive.
GZ's probally isn't coming out this year, given KP production cycle and how long Konami like to market things.... so if it does come out this year it will be later, which wouldn't help Sony or MS much with them pushing new systems. Also Kojima mentioned that Fox will allow them to port games easily to PC and other systems, could that be becasue its based around next gen hardware, which for the most part is all pretty much identical to most modern PC's....

would make more sense if it came out as a PS4/720 timed exclusive, with a PS3/360 port later so they can hit there sales quota...
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